Fun vs Form

Discussion in 'Junior League & Tournament Talk' started by gameboy, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. tball2day

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  2. Pro_Tour_630

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    well I knew she was gifted academically, knew she had music in her and now tennis :)


    if I were on the acceptance committee in an ivy league school and two asian girls had all else equal except one had all county tennis, I would choose the girl with tennis, that is just me. But if parents of girl was an alumni who donated lots of $ to the school, all else goes right out of the window.:)
     
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  3. chalkflewup

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    I'd never be selected to serve on the acceptance committee at an Ivy League school. ;)
     
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  4. gameboy

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    I begged my mother to let me quit piano when I was 12.

    The biggest regret in my life...
     
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    Obviously TeflonTom knows nothing about the quality of the passions people pursue. We're on a tennis forum. We are all on a journey to pursue tennis. We pass this to our kids. If they want to play, nothing wrong with trying to be the best they can be. It's called work ethic, pride, passion and fun. Remember, by the time kids get to be 10-12, they know it's no fun to suck. The hit and giggle stage is over. The fun is in playing well, improving, and being good. As it is with everything.

    I would venture to guess, given by the short history of his posts, that he has no kids and knows as much about parenting as he does about spelling. Rant over.
     
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  6. TeflonTom

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    dood thats a massive load. So u tellin me u never do anythin u aint good at? I play off 21 n not often enough 2 improve but I still enjoy golf. Not everythin u do requires a burnin desire 2 succeed

    If 10 is old enough to kno that suckin aint fun, how bout lettin her make the decision bout how serious she wants to take tennis. Mebbe she wants 2 be good. Mebbe not. Just cos u love workin on ur tennis game don't mean she will

    Its a bit pathetic that u r lecturing me bout how kids should have fun. Kids r pretty good at workin out how to have fun by emself
     
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  7. BMC9670

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    You totally missed the point. This is a TENNIS FORUM. People aren't on here discussing the casual game of golf with buddies to drink beer and laugh at each other. We are passionate about tennis. And yes, to a certain extent, parents make choices for their kids until they are old enough to choose for themselves. I'm not advocating pressuring them to become pros at 10, but show them that you get out of something what you put in. And when you do that, it's a ton of fun. That's sports.
     
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  8. BMC9670

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    It's not pathetic, it's called parenting. I see parents all the time that just let their kids play video games and eat junk food all day long. Might be fun for them now, but pathetic later.
     
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  9. TeflonTom

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    dood tennis aint video games or junk food

    The kid is playin tennis. Gettin outside, exercisin, bein healthy. Does it matter if she does it for fun or competition? Not really. Yet all these parents r sayin pull her outta a clinic she loves n put her somewhere to learn

    My dad was an olympic sprinter. When I was growin up, the only rule bout sports was we had to do two - one in summer n one in winter - for health reasons. He didn't care what sport we did, or if we wanted to do it for fun or to improve/compete, or anythin. We could quit any time, as long as we replaced it with another sport. He never set our goals 4 us, just supported us how we wanted 2 pursue stuff

    result bein me n my bro never saw sport as a chore, both loved it. Our competitive streak came out naturally in a coupla things, other stuff we just did 4 fun. We set our own goals n pursued em. I ended up all state in a coupla things n my bro is currently in london preparin for his second games.

    My point bein that parent who push goals on kids might end up with a success but more likely they get a kid with self esteem issues cos they r constantly performin 2 meet mommy n daddy's expectations. Tell em they gotta quit clinic with their friends 2 get better, or make it to level 6 piano, or be all-county tennis, or get into an ivy league school then suddenly they're not really doin it for emselves any more.

    Give kids the opportunity to play tennis but let em pursue it the way they want. If she aint naturally competitive, don't push her to improve just cos u think its no fun 2 play tennis if u suck. Ur kids aint u
     
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  10. gameboy

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    There is a wonderful feature on this forum called "ingore list".

    I can attest to that it works wonderfully (even better if people stop quoting the offender).

    Please don't feed the troll.
     
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  11. BMC9670

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    Thanks. I'll definitely employ that feature.
     
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  12. TeflonTom

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    the butthurt is strong in this thread
     
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  13. gameboy

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    Here is an update.

    The summer league is winding down and I am happy that I kept her in the clinic.

    Her form has improved quite a bit without much input from me. She had a lot of fun playing against other kids (and kids from other clubs), and made some good friends.

    She even played the league tournament, and even though she lost 6-4, the opponent ended up winning the tourney. Not too bad for her first tournament (I have been keeping her away from tourneys - probably till next year at the earliest).

    I think I worried too much about this. Kids really do a good job of learning on their own and adjust as they go. I probably shouldn't worry about every little bit.
     
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