Gamesmanship 101

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by Cindysphinx, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. Cindysphinx

    Cindysphinx G.O.A.T.

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    In my singles match last night, my opponent lost the first set 1-6 and was spraying the ball all over the place. On the set break, we were chatting. She pulled a different racquet from her bag and said she'd use this one, as her control was better.

    I don't think the lady was trying some gamesmanship on me; I think she was breaking the tension with meaningless chatter. Nevertheless, I spent the whole second set thinking about that Magic Racquet, wondering if she was suddenly going to open a can of whup @ss on me courtesy of Prince. Nah, the racquet didn't help her game, but it did give me something else to worry about.

    I have two racquets, and I keep different colored overgrips on them. Maybe if I'm down a set I'll make a big show of changing my racquet, banging my palms against the strings, bouncing a ball on them, muttering to myself before I make a "decision." That outta freak out my tormentor. :)
     
  2. beernutz

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    If you want to freak out your opponent, just start talking to that other racquet in your bag and act as if it is talking back to you.
     
  3. Ronaldo

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    Next, grab the ball and go Fidrych on it. Yeah, give her the Bird!
     
  4. chlsmo

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    :roll: Why contribute to gamesmanship at all? If you want to be scary on court, just practice more. I hope you were kidding.
     
  5. kingdaddy41788

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    Why in the world would you consider this gamesmanship? If she switched racquets in the middle of a match, she *probably* doesn't know what the hell she's doing. I mean... why would any rational person do that?
     
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  6. chlsmo

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    asking me?
     
  7. kingdaddy41788

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    Asking anyone. If anyone can come up with a good reason for this, tell me.
     
  8. LarougeNY

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    I wouldn't call the racket switching gamesmanship as much as the "COME ON" after winning a meaningless point, or (for school matches) meeting with your coach just b/c the other team is being coached by their coach (that stuffs allowed on JV, so no worries).
     
  9. Ronaldo

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    She was like losing
     
  10. 10sfreak

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    There could all kinds of reasons for switching racquets during a match. You're not hitting the ball very well that day, so you take one out that's a little bigger, with a bigger sweet-spot. The one you've been using is strung a little looser, so you want to go to one a little tighter, etc.
    Like I wrote, there are plenty of reasons for doing so...
     
  11. kingdaddy41788

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    Well if it's same racquet different strings (and/or tension) that's one thing. But different frames doesn't sound like a good call to most good players.

    Also, losing is not a justifiable reason for switching racquets.
     
  12. 10sfreak

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    Cindy, what may have happened is, since you won the first set so handily, you kinda lost your concentration, so you had to focus on something else. In this case, that something else was something completely out of your control, and you shouldn't have even given it a second thought.
    I know from experience that it can be hard to keep your focus on the match when you're beating the crap out of your opponent - it's hard to keep up the intensity of focus when that focus isn't really required to get the job done.
    Edit: If you're looking for "gamesmanship" tips, sorry, I don't have any. Not really in to it..
    However, there's this guy named Callwood...hmm, maybe Spot or beernutz could get you in touch with him...LOL!
     
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  13. chlsmo

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    I see. I don't really think it would affect me mentally if someone were to pull out their "magic" racquet. But the thing is, if you do it with the intention of gamesmanship, you are probably not someone I would want to play tennis with.
     
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    "Myyy Precioussss....."

    I know that'd freak me out.
     
  15. goober

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    I change racquets if I am not playing well all the time. Different strings and different tension with the same racquet model of course. Not really gamesmanship at all. I don't announce it to my opponent I just pick it up and switch. Someone who announces the switch to you with the reason would sound pretty desperate to me, not pulling out a magic racquet. If the racquet were so magical why didn't they use it to begin with?
     
  16. Swissv2

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    or...get 9 of the same racquet (you can borrow the other 7), and carefully wrap them in plastic then stuff them into your bag. Bring a whole new bag and fill it with meaningless cloths, etc. Bring water bottles filled with a different colour fluid in each one.

    And a banana.

    You are set! :mrgreen:
     
  17. Ronaldo

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    You stick with a racquet that is a loser, lost its mojo, brings bad karma, that is bringing your game down? Sacrifice that loser to the tennis gods and free your game.
     
  18. max

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    Cindy, I'll be humorous here: do what I do: take off your shirt! That means I'm getting down to business! :)
     
  19. Cindysphinx

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    I could take off my shirt and play in a jogbra.

    That would guarantee my foe would retire with a stomach ailment.
     
  20. Trinity TC

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    Hey Cindy, was this singles? Did ya win? Congrats if you did...actually congratulations for just getting through it. Hope you didn't lose too much sleep before the match.:)
     
  21. SB

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    I have a friend who had a similar experience, but much worse (I don't think switching racquets is a huge deal). Friend creams opponent 6-0 in first set. Between sets, opponent sighs and says, "Well, it's just really great to be here, in the beautiful outdoors, alive. I'm a breast cancer survivor. Last year at this time, they thought I'd be dead."

    Friend doesn't win another game.
     
  22. J011yroger

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    I usually change racquets after every set. I don't know if I am rational or not tho.

    J
     
  23. J011yroger

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    Nah, it doesn't work as well as you would hope.

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  24. Hey Cindy I'm in South Carolina where you from
     
  25. Cindysphinx

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    I'm up in Mid-Atlantic section.
     
  26. Joeyg

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    Jeez, Cindy! If you think changing sticks and mentioning it was gamesmanship, boy do you have some fun adventures ahead of you!
     
  27. Raiden.Kaminari

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    Now that is a mental game.

    LOL ... I have to agree with you.
     
  28. thanatos2948

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    I play with a guy who bring like 12 rackets to the court. He literally will change after about every 3 games. It cracks me up because even if he is playing perfectly fine with the previous racket he just can't keep from switching. In his case it's not gamesmanship at all, he just keeps looking for the perfect feel or something.
     
  29. sureshs

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    Please post pics so we can judge for ourselves.
     
  30. Raiden.Kaminari

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    LOL ... this one I didn't read.

    But we have a few players in California (both SoCal and NorCal) that do this. And many times, they shouldn't be removing their tops either.
     
  31. SB

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    Conversely, when I lived in SoCal, I was always amazed at the number of women who managed to play in a tank top and NO bra ... yet suffered no "bounce." :D

    Then there was my teammate who had a boob job and afterward couldn't figure out how in the world she had gained 5 lb. "Gee, my clothes still fit okay. I don't get it!"
     
  32. Raiden.Kaminari

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    LOL ... I was coaching some women, and commented that some of the opponents from another team had "enhancements."

    They asked how I knew, and I told them they just didn't "jiggle." After a while, the women themselves began to figure out who had been enhanced. Sadly enough, my women started talking about having enhancements done.
     
  33. J011yroger

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    That does it. I am moving to California.

    J
     
  34. patrick922

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    i dont see any gamesmanship there. there is nothing wrong with switching racquets or even talking to your opponent. there is nothing wrong with talking to your opponent.... its not like you all are playing wimbledon.
     
  35. J011yroger

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    ^^I talk to everyone, unless they are standoffish and dont want to. Even in open tournaments, I BS on the changeovers, and between sets. If the guy puts a towel on his head and sits down I don't run over and aggrivate him, but otherwise, I mean we all realize it is just for fun.

    J
     
  36. Topaz

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    I ran into this in the tournament I played last weekend. All of our doubles opponents were very friendly, and I would chat with them on the changeovers. My partner, however, would not, and actually said to me once 'Let's keep this competitive, don't get so friendly.'

    It was a *charity* tournament!!!
     
  37. J011yroger

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    I think I play better that way. It keeps me loose and relaxed.

    J
     
  38. BabblingPsychopath

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    After getting clobbered the first set she should have muttered "now I've got you right where I want you ... you've fallen into my little trap".

    I think in any sport it helps if your opponent thinks you're crazy.
     
  39. Raiden.Kaminari

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    Me too!

    I don't understand why players are so competitive, when our lives aren't depending on it. Even if our lives were, I think we would be focused on doing well each point rather than the end result. The sad part is, the competitive players rarely do well when their mental game breaks down.
     
  40. Raiden.Kaminari

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    That's actually similar to what I say.

    I say out loudly to my doubles partner (sometimes 2 -5, love - 40), "time to make a come back ... we got them right where we want them." That usually makes my partner laugh, and the funny thing is, we do usually come back.

    One time, an opponent came over and asked what I told my partner to loosen them up. When they heard what I said, they started laughing. Since then, at tournaments, we would joke with each other, "Hey! I got where I want you." "No, I got you where I want you."
     

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