Gamma 5003 stringing machine question

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  1. c_hari_c

    c_hari_c Semi-Pro

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    I have the 6 point mount of the gamma 5003 at home and I have strung many before. If the machine has a 6 point mount system, do we have to use all 6 to lock the racket in place? Can I just use the 2 main ones instead? The reason I ask that question is sometimes, the side mounts get in the way of pulling strings through the holes near the mount which makes it annoying where I have to loosen the mount and tighten it back before pulling tension. Please advice.
     
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  2. Andyroo10567

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    Yeah you can just use two.
     
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  3. c_hari_c

    c_hari_c Semi-Pro

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    Thanks. I will try just two next time. There is also a 2 point mount machine of the same model and it is expensive than the 6 point. Wonder if that is because the 2 pt is more comfortable than the 6 pt. assuming all other parts of both models are same.
     
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  4. Irvin

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    You should not just use two as your racket will slide from side to side and when it does your tension will change as the clamps will not move. Not sure what is going to happen when the racket does not rest on the bottom of the side supports but on the pad of the 6 and 12 o'clock supports. those were never meant for the racket to sit on. There are micro adjustments for the 6 and 12 supports by moving those supports in and out you effecting move the side supports up and down the racket. It is therefore possible to adjust the side supports so they are never over a grommet hole.

    Never loosen the side supports to get the string in a grommet hole. NEVER Did you ever notice how hard it is to loosen those supports? Especially the top ones the bottom one are usually easy to remove as the racket is back to normal shape as most of the crosses are in.

    I have to admit I rarely adjust the top and bottom supports so the grommets are not blocked I just work around it. The only time I really run into a problem is when I have a head racket with CAP grommets. Then I start with the grommets that are blocked and insert the string from the inside out on both grommet holes. The string the grommets up and down from that point.

    Depending on how old your machine is you may be able to upgrade your side supports from K type to V type. I assume you have K type as V PE you probably would not have that issue. Why do you see is you can upgrade. Call John Matechen (Gamma Tech) and see if you can.
     
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  5. Irvin

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  6. diredesire

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    Don't take this advice.

    The way your mounts are designed, your racquet will comically slip out of your mounts immediately. Andyroo may have (incorrectly) assumed 2 points are fine, since there are two point machines, but almost all two point machines have a hold down style mount. Irvin alluded to this fact when referring to the sliding/twisting, but you NEED the side supports due to the way the racquet is held in place by the side mounts.

    NEVER loosen the side mounts (although if your racquet is 90% strung, you're not going to destroy it by moving the mounts on an almost completely strung frame...)

    If you want to avoid this in the future, do this when mounting:

    Adjust 6/12 mounts until they are touching the frame. Loosely adjust your side mounts. Your frame should be sitting (but wobbly) in the side mounts. 6/12 should be lightly snugged up against the frame.

    Move your side mounts until they are in place to be tightened down. Do a quick top-down check --> are there any blocked holes?

    If so, loosen your mounts up, and adjust the 6 and 12 simultaneously to move the frame up and down. Repeat until there are no blocked holes.

    CAN'T FIND A SOLUTION?!

    Use the most useful feature of those mounts: Independent tower adjustment. Take your big allen wrench with the T handle and loosen the base of one of your mounting towers, move it in or out (I prefer out) until you can find a good solution.

    I personally like my frames as far away from the mounting towers as possible (6/12 adjusted far out into the mounting space). This prevents any interference from the mounting towers with frames with extremely close-to-the-frame top/bottom crosses.

    I also mount the throat mount pieces in the badminton (?) position, as I feel the point of support is better suited for the throat. This also allows me to mount the frame in the same orientation every time.
     
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  7. struggle

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    i just twist the 6 pt (side, mine are the K style vs < or C?) mounts abit until they aren't blocking a hole, or not to bad.

    works fine, then once they are aligned as such i snug everything up.
     
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  8. diredesire

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    The angle style /_ are extreeeeemely unforgiving on blocked holes, since the top of the angle is very close to the frame. I don't think anyone would have actually designed machines like this if there weren't a patent (Babolat [IIRC]) for V mounts.
     
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  9. struggle

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    to be honest, i rarely have a problem but Gamma does now make the v mount instead.
     
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  10. Irvin

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    Babolat's patent on the V mounts and some machine can be upgraded to V mounts if they are fairly new. I think Gamma sells the new mounts for about $50.
     
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  11. diredesire

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    For add-on/upgrade accessories, that's pretty cheap, TBH. If I had a 6 point I'd do it. I rarely have the issue (due to planning), but in those situations you DO have the issue, it's always on the soft strings on something like a CAPs, like Irvin said. It's enough to just take the extra few seconds to plan ahead, IMO. I've found the babolat/6.1s (the most popular frames I strung by far) both line up similarly, so I never had to adjust the towers after the one adjustment. It's a pretty small 'investment' IMO in the process.
     
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  12. c_hari_c

    c_hari_c Semi-Pro

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    I haven't checked the boards in a couple of days and look how many advices I have got. I will plan accordingly while mounting the racket so I don'r run into blocked holes. My mounts are the < style mounts.
     
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