Gamma 6004 Ready to Go!

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  1. varuscelli

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    Well, after letting it sit in the box for a week, I finally got a block of time (and some privacy from customers and family) and set up the Gamma 6004. Took my time and what should have likely taken me about an hour took over 2 hours with incoming phone calls and taking photos along the way (had to document the experience for future generations ;) ).

    So here are some photos!

    These first two are just the contents of each of the two boxes the machine came in (compulsively arranged on the carpet, of course, to give me a false sense of order amidst the chaos of my normal day -- or something like that -- and also to help me make sure everything was there -- and for nicer photos, etc.).

    Incidentally, all of the tools needed for assembly came with the machine in the form of a set of nine hex wrenches, only three or four of which were actually needed to do the initial assembly. The only difficult part, for me, was adjusting the machine to proper height by myself. I could have used a hand with that to make it easier.

    Here's What's in One Box
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    Here's What's in the Other Box
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  2. TennezSport

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    Best of Luck

    Nice machine, all the best with it. Nice pics too, thanks for sharing.

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  3. varuscelli

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    Here are front and back views of the assembled stringing machine (with tools all neatly laid out in the tray, as if they're going to stay that way beyond the first-time setup :) ).

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  4. varuscelli

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    Here are a couple of other views of the setup. I even stuck a racquet in there briefly just to see if it would explode or anything. (Nothing exploded -- yet.)

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  5. mellofelow

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    very Very nice!!! I'm envious!

    It's a masterpiece complimenting the room.

    W O W...
     
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    Excellent...it's a sexy beast.... ;)
     
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  7. varuscelli

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    Thanks, TS! :)

    Yeah, I wanted to give it the best room in the house. But my wife says that's probably not a good idea. I don't get it... :confused:

    Thanks, Redflea.

    You know, your initial photo approach has given me an idea for actually doing a whole series of closeup shots of the 6004 and posting those to a page on my website. Someplace where interested people can get an actual closer look at the pieces and parts of the machine.

    One of the big drawbacks I found in researching stringing machines was the lack of much but stock photos (and usually the same one) on all the vendor sites. It was VERY difficult to get a closer look at anything, and I sometimes found that frustrating. (A few online manuals were/are available, but very few -- and there's another project idea in itself.)

    In reality, it's very difficult for most of us to see these machines in person, so we're left with verbal descriptions and stock photos on the 'net. And after all, how many of us actually have the opportunity to see the machines we buy in person before we buy them? Or to see a detailed breakdown of the machine? I'll bet the percentage is small.

    So, I'm going to do a photo page on my website for this machine (including macro photos of parts, up close). I'll post something linking to it when I get a chance.

    'Twould be cool if others could do the same somehow. But maybe there are other options like those websites that are geared toward mass photo postings (Photobucket and such?).

    Oh, well -- it's nice to put my photography to my own uses once in a while, since 95 percent of what I do is for others (paying customers, that is).
     
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    As a "for instance" on detail shots, here's a close-up of the top/teeth of a string clamp (granted, closer than most folks would need to see, but interesting nonetheless).

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    An even closer look can reveal more interesting details (even though this one was a hand-held shot and not as clear as could be made). Of course, this is rather extreme. (But I can even go closer when need be, as a side note, using a true macro lens and proper camera support).

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    Or even the details of a single tooth, if you REALLY wanted a close look.. ;)

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  11. varuscelli

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    Something of more practical value (for anyone wanting a closer look) might be a close-up of part of the string tensioner.

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  12. Mr.Federer

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    Are you a professional photographer?

    Those are really great pictures.
     
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  13. varuscelli

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    Or something of beauty in those base clamp/string clamps.

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  14. varuscelli

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    Yeah, but I'm mostly a people photographer (for a living). "Product" photography is not really my specialty, but I can do all right with photos like this. And thanks for the nice comment... :)
     
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    Honey, I shrunk the stringer... (the guy, not the machine) ;)

    Those are too scary - now I'm going to have nightmares about huge clamps chasing me around the court snapping at me.

    I agree w/your comment on the sad lack of pictures. I've already sent an email to Alpha letting them know that w/out the strong positive comments of Gotwheels on his Alpha, I might now be a Gamma owner. The online pics of the Alpha are just sad and don't exactly show details or build interest/excitement ...I think there is only one pic, and it does not do the machine justice at all. The gamma pics are much better, which is saying a lot about how poor the Alpha pic is...

    Nice shots. Say - are you going to put some wheels on your 6004, or will it have a dedicated position in front of that lovely couch? ;)
     
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    Great shots, they should hire you as photographer. It is sad that theses sites only have one photo, your shots show the quality of the machine.

    Good Luck -
     
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    Yeah, that one close-up reminds me that I need work done on one of my crowns soon. The photos remind me of Jaws from the old Bond movies. :mad:

    I dunno. I do wonder if I could put wheels on this one. I was thinking about it as I assemble it and took off one of the foot "pads" to see (it screwed in, so maybe wheels of some sort would work). One of the problems for me would be the height of the machine if I bumped it up with wheels. I've got it set almost as low as it can go and the string bed is already at close to 40 inches high. I might run into difficulties with working height if I put wheels on it. Hmmm.

    On location: I figured I could move the couch and set the machine up in front of the picture window much like the Leg Lamp in "A Christmas Story." Or maybe I'll used one of those Leg Lamps to light the machine at night. I'm sure the neighborhood association spies would love that. :p (Wait 'til Christmas comes and I decorate it up with icicle lights.)
     
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    Thanks, theace21. Nice of you to comment.

    Yeah, it's kind of ironic that some of these machines are so expensive (sometime thousands of dollars) and the best you can see in some cases is a standard stock image. Maybe Redflea and I can lobby 'em into raising the standards a bit on the visual image side. ;)

    Yes, I can see it now. Vendor says to potential buyer, "Go to the TW forums and refer to thread number XXXXXXXXX for more details on those particular machines." :p
     
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  19. varuscelli

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    Here are a couple of nice shots of the turntable.

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    Turntable end views.

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    On the wheels, only an issue if you're going to be moving it around a lot, obviously. My wife has made it clear that Architectural Digest will not condone a stringing machine sitting out full time in any room in our house, so we've arranged a nice nest in the hall closet for it. So wheels are a must for me...

    One interesting thing...the mounts that hold the racquet look like they have a fixed angle. Are they adjustable? The mounts on my Alpha adjust in/out w/knobs on each one, and I assumed in my newbie-ness that all of them worked that way. Does that make sense?

    Re: decorating...you have inspired me. I'll have to find some tiny Christmas lights for my Alpha, and maybe a teeny tiny nativity scene for the turntable... ;)
     
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    It sounds like you're talking about the shoulder supports, and they just swivel as needed. You just give them a twist to get the correct angle and you're set. (In that one photo where I was playing with mounting a racquet, I didn't have the shoulder supports all turned to fully seat the racquet, so that might be what you were seeing.)


    Now you're talkin. :)
     
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    Some shots of the tensioner/gripper jaw.

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    The shoulder supports.

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    Beautiful pics. Congrats on getting a quality machine there. Kinda makes me want to get a Gamma now.
     
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  26. varuscelli

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    Main adjustment knob for shoulder supports/shoulder support arms.

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    Thanks, LttlElvis. I've appreciated your feedback/comments on all the stringing machine questions (from mine and other threads I've been tracking while doing my research).

    I have to admit, this is a beautiful looking machine. It seems to come across really well in the photos, too. (I'm liking 'em, anyway... :) )

    I wonder if Gamma Tech is seeing any of these? I'd like to hear what he thinks. ;)
     
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    Frame support post adjustment.

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    Views of the tensioner and crank assembly.

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    Wow! Great Pictures! It looks like you got a great deal. The machine looks to be of very high quality. Have you strung your first racquet yet? How'd you do?
     
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    Thanks!

    Yeah, I feel really good about this deal. I took a bit of a chance getting this one since it was from an individual rather than a retail place, but it's turning out to be every bit as nice as described.

    But I just got it set up yesterday and have no string yet! I'm going to order some this weekend and hopefully have it by midweek. Been studying up on the kinds of strings I want to go with, so I have list but nothing ordered yet. I do have a big local place I can buy from (kind of like TW), but it's a long drive for me to get out there, so I'll likely just order from TW and wait. I'm in no real hurry, but it will be nice to try a first racquet on it. I've got some older racquets I can practice on with nothing really to lose, but I'm still researching how to get started. I do have friend here who has been stringing for years and I'm going to see if he'll give me a lesson or two.
     
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  32. mellofelow

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    This is sick... those close ups really show how much Gamma took pride in their craftmanship.

    I owned an early model Ektelon for years and had to replace it with an ultra low budget brand last year (renown for their lack of customer service skills). Gamma was my other choice but now I know I own a piece of s-CRAP... LOL
     
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  33. Mr. Blond

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    Varuscelli,

    great pictures man, I wish these kinds of shots were around when I was searching for a machine, my decision would have been much easier to make. I did end up with a gamma, so I guess I got lucky, but hey, that thing is a beauty!
     
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  34. LttlElvis

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    Varuscelli, I keep on looking at those pics over and over, and I have to say not only do you have a great machine, but those are very beautiful shots. Amazing.

    I don't even know you and I am excited for you to have that machine. LOL. I have never seen this machine in person, but I want one now. For those of you considering a Prince NEOS, for the same price, I think Gamma has it beat.

    I have an Eagnas Hawk 800. Never have had one problem with it. Always thought it was built like a tank. But the quality of this Gamma appears many times better. (Think VW bug vs. Mercedes here)

    I think all of us need to post pics of our set ups. ( I am not too computer saavy, but I will try to figure it out.)

    Any tennis nut planning on buying a stringer really needs to consider shelling out some $ and get the most stringer possible. They really do pay off quickly.
     
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    As all have said - nice machine and sweet pics, varuscelli.

    My question: the pic above of the tensioner - it's odd (to me) that such an important part of the machine seems to be one of the lowest-tech, cheaply-designed parts? (as every other pic is of neater, cleanly & stylishly-designed parts) What's it like in real life? Is there a way to ensure consistency with such a tight scale?

    Just asking - it seemed like it 'stuck out'....

    Edit: It seems the knob on the end is grauduated too - is it in 3lb units? This knob at the computer didn't wonder that the first time around....
     
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  36. LttlElvis

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    OrangeOne,

    I used to think that way when I first got my crank. I wondered how can I get exactly 58 lbs. when the scale was so small.

    It turns out that with cranks, every 1/3 turns of the knob = 1 lbs. So to get 58 lbs., start at 60 lbs and turn the knob counter clockwise 2/3 times to get 58 lbs.

    That little ring with a "1" on it is actually partitioned in a scale of 3 so you can turn the knob exactly 1/3 turns.

    Cranks are actually very consistent.
     
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    Thanks, blabit...that's exactly my thinking on this. Post a bunch of photos and if someone is interested in comparing machines, at least they can do some "visual research" with this Gamma. I'm too new at this to give back anything of worthwhile technical knowledge, but on the photo side I thought that this would be beneficial to people. I'll be posting a link soon to all the photos I'm taking and placing on my website, so anyone who's interested can go there to look at the photos (instead of them getting lost in the shuffle of old threads like this one will eventually so). Well, at least if they're here in the TW forums and on my site, anyone who's looking will have more than one opportunity to find them.
     
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  38. varuscelli

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    Thanks for the feedback. I agree about the posting of images. If we can't get a good assortment of "visuals" necessarily from the various sellers, maybe we can make our own catalogs of images. That way, if someone wants to see a specific clamp on a specific machine or how the crank mechanism is set up or just more images of a particular machine, they'll have some place they can look. But I also understand your point that not everyone has easy access to post images (or even the time to mess with it). But even a few shots posted is a lot better than nothing.

    There are ways it could be done, though. Perhaps TW would host some pages if forum members would contribute images. Or I could volunteer some space on my website if people would send in some digital photos to me. I've got several years of website development experience and digital photo imaging background. I could certainly pull of a project like that if I could get my hands on images from people who own the machines.

    I mean, there are only so many stringing machines out there, so how many could it involve? Its not like we'd be trying to document all the cars on the road or anything. Probably just a few dozen mainstream stringing machines at most if we don't count the discontinued or obscure machines. Someone doing just like Redflea is doing with his thread on his new Alpha and showing some good basic photos is a heck of a lot better than a single stock image that's repeated everywhere a particular machine is sold.

    It might end up being a great resource for people new to stringing machines or those who are upgrading their machine, etc. -- or just for general reference purposes.

    If others are willing to help, I'm certainly willing to help with it.
     
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  39. varuscelli

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    Link to All Gamma 6004 Images

    For anyone interested, I have set up a page with all the digital images I did of the Gamma 6004. It's on my own website and may be visited by clicking on the following link:

    Gamma 6004 Tennis Racquet Stringing Machine Photos

    Let me know if you have any comments or if you'd like to contribute toward expanding this photo project to include other machines. It might be an idea worth considering.
     
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    Hi, OrangeOne, and thanks for the nice comments on the photos.

    But I'm glad LttlElvis answered the important of that one for me since my limited experience would . . . limit my ability to respond. :)

    But I do understand your question in terms of the "fit and finish" aspect of the appearance of the overall machine.

    Of the components on the tensioner (basically crank, gripper, and spring tensioner), the spring tensioner scale certainly does -- appearance-wise, compared to the fit and finish of the turntable elements -- seem sort of the out-of-place piece (and I mean that strictly visually). But I'm guessing that since it's such an overall functional piece, design changes to match the fit and finish of things like the turntable are not needed or wanted by the manufacturer (maybe even for pure payback in terms of financial cost to redesign rather than leave as is?). On the overall tensioner device, I'd say the gripper itself looks like it matches the turntable most in the fit and finish department. But I guess cranks are cranks and spring tensioner scales are what they are... (at least in terms of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"). Again, just my guesses.
     
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  41. theace21

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    This is a great PR for Gamma. The quality of the machine is seen in every shot (the photographer deserves the credit!). For those looking at buying a machine this is so valuable. I have an Ektelon Model H , but if others would contribute photos of their new machines, with this detail - it would be awesome for newbies trying to compare machines.

    What a great contribution to this board...Enjoy your new stringer!
     
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    Nice looking machine. I was in a toss up between the Apex II and the 6004 but the Apex is not available until almost February so I ordered the 6004 today with the 6 point mount. I could not decide but the person who I ordered from recommended the 6 point.
    Have you had a chance to string on it yet? If so how do you like it? Best of luck.
     
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    Hi, greggara...

    Haven't done any stringing yet. Waiting on string (mine didn't come with any because of the nature of the purchase). Not in any hurry, though. At the rate I'm going, you'll be stringing before me. ;)

    But I tell you what: I think once you have the 6004 in front of you, you'll love it.

    Visit here if you'd like to see more photos:

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  44. Mr. Blond

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    I have a gamma progression electric machine that I can photo to add to your site, how would you like the pictures sent to you? My email is

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    varuscelli,

    The pictures look really nice. Great job with that. Have you heard anything about the 2 point vs the 6 point mount?
     
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    That's great. Love to have them.

    They can either be posted to one of these sites like Photobucket for me to go and get, or you can e-mail them to me at either vruscelli@houston.rr.com or al@ruscelli.com

    E-mail will have some limitations on size (not so much on my end but in overall transfer) so you might want to go easy on the number of images/size combination. Don't go too small, though, and the more you can fit in one message comfortably, the easier it might be on your end. But whatever way works best for you. Bigger images an always be sized down on my end. And if you have any comments you'd like to have accompany your images, please feel free to pass along some text comments, too (no required but welcomed if added).
     
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  48. Redflea

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    Photobucket is quick and easy to sign up for, free, though has an 800x600 rez limit (at least for the basic account I created there). 800x600 should be good enough for most pics, however, and has the added benefit of making the site that Varuscelli is putting together more responsive...
     
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    Great comments. That size is just about perfect for what we're doing (800x600 pixels) and I certainly wouldn't want to post them much larger on my own site. And it's certainly much easier on my end to go there and grab them. E-mail is not a problem, but putting them out there like Redflea did on the Photobucket site makes it much easier on me. (And I'm sure there are other ways to go that are similar.)

    If you're worried at all about sizing your own images, don't worry too much about it. Send them to me as they are and they'll likely be OK since I can size them as needed. I don't want to ask anyone to do anything they're not comfortable doing in terms of sizing/resizing images and the like. But there is really no exact set size that I need for this. (I do like the Photobucket sizing, though.)
     
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    Redflea,

    Take a look at the overall Alpha page. The way that page is set up is going to serve as the relative model for users machines and manufacturer samples on the same page (yours being the user machine link at the top).

    I'll need to change the user photos entry point a bit (otherwise it will eventually will become too confusing), but under those user image links will be links to all the manufacturer sample images for the "base" model image for each offered model. The user machines will provide (in most cases) the detail.

    Alpha Stringing Machine Photos
     
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