Gamma 8800 Els Vs Gamma 5800 Els

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  1. FischProN1

    FischProN1 New User

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    Hello, i'm a home stringer and i restring around 250 racquets a year.
    I'm thinking to buy a Gamma 5800 Els and 8800 Els.
    I don't know all the differences of these machines and if would be a reason to spend more money in the 8800 Els for the use i have to do.
    Someone who have tried these machine and wont give me some advise?
    Thanks
     
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  2. s1jor

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    i have a 5800els, which i find a very good machine, the only difference between the machines is the clamps and the mounting system. the 8800 has the self centering suspension mounting system as they call it, which means one knob controls bothe sides of the outer arms. so you have a knob at each end of the turntable. the 5800 each of the arms are controlled individually so you have one knob for the left arm and one knob for the right arm and the same at the other end. sorry if thats a bit confusing. If you look carefully at the pics you can see the extra knobs on the 5800. the tensioning system is the same. you can actually get the 5800 and then upgrade the turntable and clamps for cheaper than the 8800 i think.
     
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  3. FischProN1

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    thanks s1jor, i've seen this difference, an there is a difference in the system of look the clamp to the base...
    Does the clamp stay very firmly on the base when you release the tension head after look the clamp on the string on your 5800?
    An example, if you restring 5-6 the same frame consecutively at the same tension, do you have the same result or there are some calibrating problems?
    I think there are something different between 5800 and 8800 also in electronics for the difference of the price!
    ...but i don't know if could be a reason to spend more money for the 8800 if i restring 250 frames in one year....;)
     
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  4. s1jor

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    no the clamps dont slip at all, very solid, you'll have to ask gamma if there is any difference in the electronics. The upgraded turntable and clamps are available from ats, think for the 8800's clamps and turntable is 900 dollars. so that roughly takes you from the 5800 price up to the 8800 price so donnt think there is much difference in the electronics, i'll see if i can find out from ats for you

    Simon
     
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  5. FischProN1

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    thanks for your help Simon!
     
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  6. s1jor

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    Hi again, i've heard back from ATS, and below is there email response




    There is a very slight difference in the electronics of the two machines, however, the major difference like you said is the turntable. I have personally used both and the turn table that comes with the 8800 is significantly more enjoyable to string on. The clamps on the machines are also slightly different. The big advantage of the 8800 is when mounting the racquet you only have to adjust 3 knobs as opposed to 6 when mounting a racquet n the 5800. Also, the 8800 is a self centering mounting system.
     
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  7. abllee2198

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    Gamma 5800 or 8800

    Actually the best buy in the $3000 range is the Babolat Star 5 not the Gamma 8800.

    A.Lee
    Wilson Pro Tour Stringer
     
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  8. FischProN1

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    Thanks Simon and Abllee!
    For my volume of restring per year i think that for $2000 the Gamma 5800 is a good choice...
    If anyone had problems with this machine i think i'll buy it...
    Do you think i'm on the right way?
     
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  9. jj300

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    i guess ur set on a gamma machine. But before the final decision, take a look at the sp aria as well. $1700 brand new which is cheaper than the 5800, has the self centering suspension mounting and is much more accurate as well. just a fyi
     
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  10. s1jor

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    what makes you say the aria is much more accurate than the gamma machines??
     
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  11. jj300

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    gammatech posted that the tension drop before repull on the 5800 is 1.5-2lbs if i remember correctly. the aria is less than half a pound.
     
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  12. FischProN1

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    Yes, i've seen the Aria, but Silent Partner sells only to Canada and USA and i come from Europe...
     
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  13. Gamma Tech

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    Difference between 5800/8800:
    5800 with 6 Point Mounting
    Quick Mounting System
    Quick Action Bases
    Basic Keypad

    8800 with 6 Point Mounting
    Suspension Mounting System
    Switch Action Bases
    Self-Centering Keypad
    Telephone Keypad

    8800: The suspension mounting arms require 1 knob to move both shoulder support arms in simultaneously, the frame support (12 & 6 o’clock) pretty much stays in the same place. The self-centering turntable moves both mounting arms simultaneously. The switch action clamps are similar to a light switch where there is a definite on and off (over center of a cam). There are more keys so inputting and changing tension is faster.

    5800: The quick mount system requires that you adjust the shoulder supports individually and then the frame supports (12 & 6 o’clock). You have to move each mounting arm into position and tighten it up with an included allen wrench. The quick action clamps are very reliable pretty much a nut and bolt design, you need to apply constant pressure to tighten them.


    Most of the time the constant pulling is less than 1.5lbs but I just want to make sure I was covering myself.

    For reference (hopefully a search @ a later date): The mounting system on 5003 is the same as the 5800 & the 6004 are the same as the 8800. Just the tensioning device is different between the 8800/5800 & 6004/5003.

    The biggest advantage for the 8800 is speed. The mounting is faster, the keypad has more inputs & base clamps are easier & quicker. if you are planning on your stringing business growing then I’d get an 8800. Many shops use the 5800 also, It boils down to how much is your time worth? It will count off a couple of minutes per rqt and then eventually add up. i look at machines as an tool and an investment so if you can afford the 8800 it would be good. it has all of our best parts and latest technologies.

    bret
     
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