Gaston Gaudio vs. Andy Murray

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  1. joeri888

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    if Andy Murray never won another match, who's career would you pick and why?

    Same could be asked about Murray or Del Potro if their careers ended today.
     
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  2. Cormorant

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    I'd pick the career of the guy with a winning record on hardcourts, not the one who's 48-66.
     
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  3. Andres

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    Hard to argue with a Slam title.
     
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    Gaudio. I personally feel Murray's had the better career by far, he has more silverware, he's been a lot more consistent at the majors, and while Gaudio had two and half-ish years in the top 10, Murray has had 182 (or will have by Monday) consecutive weeks in the top 5, including 3-4 weeks at #2.

    And has 3 grand slam finals and a pretty good record record against #1 ranked players.


    But when they both look at their respective Trophy Cabinets, Murray will see 3 runner up plates staring back at home, and Gaudio will see a beautiful looking trophy as a result of the most remarkable grand slam final comeback in living memory.

    Stats wise it would be Murray, but I know I'd rather have the memories.

    So Gaudio.
     
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  5. batz

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    +1 Ten thises
     
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    Gaudio. He would have definately had a better career if he had motivation to play. He also had injury problems. His mentality and attitude at times didn't help either. Murray had had the better career outside clay and Murray would do a complete 180 on Gaudio's Career with a slam win. But for the first two, three points I made, I'd rather have Gaudio's career.
     
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  8. nereis

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    If Murray's career ends today, then Gaudio by a long way. 1 slam > 0 slams.
     
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  9. elpolaco84

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    sad but true for Murray
     
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  10. kaku

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    In the end, the one slam makes Murray lose ground in this discussion. If he wins a major though, it will be no question that Murray has had the better career.
     
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  11. kishnabe

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    If I wanted Money then Murray.

    But a RG title would mean a lot....so Gaudio it is.
     
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  12. britbox

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    Murray by far.
     
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    Gaudio.

    By the way, Murray has never even reached a final on clay in his entire career!
     
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  14. joeri888

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    Gaudio has never reached a final off clay.
     
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  15. ledwix

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    Of course Murray is the far better player, but he would rather be Gaudio as well. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, relatively speaking.
     
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  16. Crazy man

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    Murray has never won a slam.


    Technically, Gaudio is at worst, as talented as Murray. I don't think many people realise how good Gaudio could have been if he wasn't such a complete dodo upstairs. Gaudio is the much better clay courter though. Gaudio on clay was able to play at a higher standard to Murray on a hard, or grass court.
     
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  17. Lsmkenpo

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    Andy Murray

    22 career titles
    333wins- 108 losses
    $19,674,559 prize money


    Gaston Gaudio

    8 career titles
    270wins– 196 losses
    $6,066,156 prize money


    I think I will take the additional 14 million dollars of Murray's, the FO trophy doesn"t looks so good when you come home from work down at the local club because you didn't make much money over your career.
     
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  18. joeri888

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    You think 6 million is not much money? And I think an FO trophy would actually still look great, even if you have to come home from work.
     
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  19. Lsmkenpo

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    No its not much, that 6 mill becomes 3 mill after taxes, than you have expenses of traveling and playing on tour an entire career, there goes another 1 mill, than you make a mistake marry some chick get divorced, and you are suddenly working down at the local club to pay your bills.
     
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  20. SLD76

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    half right.

    Im sure at some point Gaudio had sponsorships, endorsements etc.

    Not at the level of a fed or nadal or djoker, but there is more money for top players than just prize money.

    Im sure after winning the FO that opened up money making opportunities for him at home. Who knows how much money he made off the court?

    So, keeping that in mind, I'll take his 6 mil plus a slam.
     
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  21. Lsmkenpo

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    He rarely made it past the 3rd round at any major or masters series event off of clay in his entire career, to the casual tennis fan he is a complete unknown despite winning the FO, same with many other claycourt specialists that have won the title. I doubt he made much off of endorsements.
     
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  22. SLD76

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    Not internationally, but surely a FO in a clay loving country like Argentina earns one some cache.

    Not saying he made millions but surely he was able to cash in on that achievement back home. If nothing else it should earn him a car dealership or restaurant or some such.
     
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    perfectly put
     
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    The casual american tennisfan maybe. Coria and Gaudio are way more well-known than a Ginepri or even Fish around here.
     
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  25. elpolaco84

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    Gaudio is still living a life without working
     
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  26. jokinla

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    Gaudio of course, he came through in the big moment.
     
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    Sure everyone will say Andy Murray was better etc. and that Gaudio was lucky, but I'd much rather be the lucky guy with that French Open trophy.
     
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    Agreed depends where you are. Gaudio is a hero in Argentina, where he now resides, he is a household name. Sure in the US he might not be hugely known outside of the guys who follow tennis everyday, but then unless an athlete is truly exceptional he will never be known worldwide. Pele, Jordan, Federer, Messi, Nadal, Kobe, Jeter, Gretzky, Sampras, Phelps, Bolt etc. are rare. Gaudio is well known amongst most tennis fans and is a hero in Argentina, and I'm pretty sure he is okay with that, because if someone doesn't know him all he has to do is say he won the French Open in 2004 and people will look it up and suddenly give him respect.
     
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    Who he/she?:confused:
     
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    Well, if you want to go with the one Slam beats all argument, which many on here prefer, then you can substitute Gaudio for any other player who has won a Slam!

    Therefore ANY player who has won a Slam (even if they got knocked out in the first round of every other tournament they played) has, by definition, had a better career than Murray!
     
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    thomas johansson then?

    for me i prefer murray's.. if i was to go professional i might as well go for the most money and fame.. i guess murrays career had more of it than gaudio.. so hands down murray for me..

    where as a slam title? well probably the only reason for me wanting to win a slam is for the money and the fame ANYWAY thats why theyre called grandslams (because for some reason by you winning it, people will think you're GOD - so again fame!)..

    so murray for me hands down
     
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  33. Cormorant

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    That's one argument put to the sword, then. As much as I loved watching Gaston play, these recurring Johansson v. Murray/Gaudio v. Murray threads always had me raising an eyebrow.
     
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  34. tank_job

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    Yep, Gaudio edges Murray out.

    He didn't play the slam final he won in the wind - rendering his offensive-minded opponent redundant.
     
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    Murry beating Djokovic> Gaudio beating a choker!
     
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