Genesis Black Magic

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  1. Orion

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    What a great poly. It was easy to string and plays stiff like you expect a poly to, but this string pockets the ball really well and offers a level of comfort and control I've yet to experience in poly string.

    I tried the 16g and crossed it with Gamma Synthetic 16. Very nice feel. Good touch on volleys and stiff enough to bang from the baseline.

    Someone posted in another thread that a reel will retail for $85, any truth to this?
     
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  2. tribunal4555

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    I sure as hell hope not, because I really enjoyed using this string and want to make the switch... but for $85 per reel? That's just a little too much right now.
     
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  3. Orion

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    Not for a set. Ha. That would be crazy. I think the post said $7.95 a set. The reel would really undercut the top poly's. Babolat PHT is like $215/reel and Tech Black Code is $170/reel. I'm curious to see how long BM will last. Tension retention seems good and they didn't move a whole lot.

    You can't even buy sets from their website yet. I wonder when it's hitting retail shelves.
     
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  4. mozzer

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    I think its on str1ng5d3p07plu5
     
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  5. tribunal4555

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    whoops, my mistake. Completely mixed up reel and set :oops:

    Thank goodness, my heart stopped racing. :twisted:
     
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  6. dhahntennis

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    ya its true as i said on another thread a reel of BM is 85
    and im sponsored by them :)
     
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  7. mozzer

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    Can someone compare Black Magic to Spin X?
     
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  8. Infl8edEg0

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    Yea, Genesis strings are available at the Depot of Strings right now...
     
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  9. stanfordtennis alum

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    interesting feedback, may have to give this string a try this week...
     
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  10. Orion

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    Thanks for confirming...

    Thanks for the info.

    It appears that booth have pretty decent characteristics. I'm not big on the spin generating strings. But if the SpinX feels like Black Magic there is an elasticity to the string that other ploys lack, unable to tell if it's a coating or what but it definitely gives the poly a unique feel. It feels slippery or slick but not smooth.
     
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  11. Sleepstream

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    Why aren't you guys asking TW to carry these strings?
     
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  12. Murray_fan1

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    What would you compare this poly to?
     
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  13. lawlitssoo1n

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    because TW already has a numerous variety of strings availble and adding this to their inventory won't tell others. There has been like 10 page discussion about this on the TW comment thread with pro supex products
     
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  14. PROTENNIS63

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    I think sleepstream was referring to genesis not pro supex.
     
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  15. Sleepstream

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    Yeah... I know all about pro supex.

    I'm just used to seeing people ask TW to carry certain strings, and I am quite surprised not to see a thread pop up regarding this in the questions/comments section.
     
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  16. lawlitssoo1n

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    um i already know that... and what makes you think TW will get gensis products over pro supex? pro supex has probably been around more and offers more strings; therefore a bigger business. gensis has only 2 strings avaiable?
     
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  17. dr325i

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    I have nbeen playing with the Spin-X (mains) and Gamma Professinal Crosses for about 8-10 hours now and am very much impressed with the Spin-X. I previously played with the Black Code. The Spin-X gives you slightly more spin, holds the tension better than the BC and does not move at all The power is great.

    Very happy so far.
     
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  18. PROTENNIS63

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    what makes you think to write such a post? Did I write that tw will carry genesis? No. Think before you write next time.
     
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  19. lawlitssoo1n

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    lolz i never said you said that tw will carry genesis, so i was explaining to Sleepstream why TW wouldn't carry genesis strings, and pro supex was an example of why they wouldn't.
     
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  20. tribunal4555

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    If TW hosted Genesis I would definitely buy it. $85 a reel is just an incredible steal. Forget ALU Rough!
     
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  21. nickarnold2000

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    I was under the impression that TW doesn't carry ProSupex because of distribution rights problems. Sometimes string Co. have too many options and fewer can be a benefit. In the end, if the product's good - it will sell. It certainly won't take up a lot of space on TW's part; string packages and reels are small in size and it's just one more click on the website.
     
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  22. Cross Court

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    I'm very close to Genesis, I talk to them frequently and they are considering changing their string color of the Spin X to silver since I told them they looked kind of pinkish on my racquet.

    But now that i've got that off my chest, the Black Magic is supposedly more powerful than the Spin X but I found the Spin X to have a great amount of power for a poly. Probably won't try it either because of the black color, lol. Don't like that color for a string, at all.
     
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  23. nickarnold2000

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    How old are you kid - 16?
     
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  24. Ljubicic for number1

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    I don't think TW would even look at stocking this string until its more established, there is very little feedback on it so far.

    It took them a while to stock topspin didn't it? I seem to remember the cyberflash craze flourishing for a while before they stocked it.
     
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  25. Ljubicic for number1

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    Hope they plan on keeping the current colour as well, there is enough silver polys already. I like the pinky red. And it won't play the same in silver either.
     
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    15 right now. Getting into USTA.
     
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  27. jackcrawford

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    As always, ymmv, I found it a nice string, but definitely less comfortable than Black Code, and slightly less spin also. Power the same as BC.
     
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  29. statetennis09

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    which names has he posted under in this thread?
     
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  30. BigT

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who knows this.

    Maybe a thread should be started pointing out all the usernames they use and all the BS that these guys try to sell everyone.
     
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  31. bad_call

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    don't forget the politically funded bloggers.
     
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  33. stanfordtennis alum

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    dont appreciate being accused of being someone else.. im a credible poster on these boards and provide other forum members my opinion on various topics.. i do use the genesis strings but that does not mean i represent them..
     
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    will be more than happy to talk to a moderator or TW staff member via phone or e-mail so they can veryify my identity..
     
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  37. bad_call

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    does that site sell strings?
     
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    no they do not.. i never even knew you can post stuff on there, seems like a great info site.
     
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  40. statetennis09

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    I can 100% tell you that I am not Mitchell from Genesis. I am 17 year old High Schooler from Menomonee Falls, WI
     
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  41. statetennis09

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    Also, BigT I think will know who I am. My last name is Carlos.
     
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  42. Murray_fan1

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    Before you accuse people of being affiliated with any company please get your facts straight. The only tie I have to Genesis is that they sent me a free sample of the Spin X which IMO was mediocre at best. I do not use or endorse their product and do not appreciate someone trying to slander my user name on TW.
     
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  43. acer4tennis

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    ok.. so if i was to write positive comments about genesis tomorrow, does that mean that i work for them? if so, you probably work for pro supex since your posts are always about them and your signature is as well... i know i wasnt accussed here like others were but this is my $0.02

    isnt Big T a distributor for polystar and promote his stuff on these boards?

    Nice going children!!!!!
     
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  44. BigT

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    statetennis and murray fan1 are legit. It's the other two that are the big culprits.

    I am up front of who I am; my username and website are on my profile for all to see. Anyone reading my posts can see that and decide for themselves.

    It's when one says that they are a tennis alum for a highly-regarded school, when they likely never even went to that school.

    All they do is plug there products non-stop, while bashing anything they don't sell. That's why stanford is making hundred of posts today trying to save face and actually mention good things about other brands. Just look at the previous posts of both of these two. You don't need to be a genius to realize it.
     
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  45. drakulie

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    I've tried this string. (17 gauge)

    It is absolutely an excellent string. It feels somewhere between Lux Big Banger Alu Power, and Big Ace.

    As the OP stated, it is very easy to string, and pockets the ball very well. Nice feed back to the hand (not too harsh or mushy). Generates good pop, spin, and control.

    For the price, you can't go wrong. I'll most likely be switching to this string, once my other poly runs out.
     
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  47. statetennis09

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    Thank you BigT for clearing this up for us.
     
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  48. BigT

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    How much does it cost per set? Any place to get free samples?
     
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  49. cayossarian

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    First Impression Black Magic

    I'm a 4.0 player and I play whenever I can wheather permitting in Northern California. I'm not affiliated with any commercial tennis product.

    I strung a Prince Black with Genesis Black Magic (BM) at 54', which is fairly loose for that racquet) and although I rarely comment on products because most are a matter of taste, I thought this string deserved some feedback.

    I've used pure and hybrid combinations of Babolat Gut, Luxilon original, ALU Power, Rough, NXT, synthetic gut, Sonic Pro, and a host of others. Black Magic is vastly different than any string I've experienced. So different, it takes a while to interpret what is really going on.

    Black Magic exhibits a very soft feel that subtracts only slightly from the power dimension and adds control. That's a feat. It even feels softer than natural gut IMO and it's a lot easier on the arm than any Poly I've tried. When I tried BM for the first time, the guy I was playing with said, "Wow, I like the way that sounds". And I was thinking, yeah, I think I like the way this feels.

    If you swing slowly you get good feel, if you swing faster you naturally generate power because of that pocketing and poly rebound - but you don't lose control.

    It's so different, it takes some getting used to in order to really appreciate it.

    Nice change Genesis!
     
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  50. PED

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    ^^LOL, nice disclaimer and I agree, you gotta be careful nowadays with distributors pimping their product.

    I love the review and have to agree. I hit today with BM for the first time. I split my time between BM in one stick and SpinX in the other. Both in 16g, the feel was what impressed me, closely followed by the spin and power. These 2 are the first two strings who I feel give PL2 a run for the money for less bucks.

    I'm interested in how they hold tension but based on my first experience, they're both great: so far I would give the slight edge to silver SpinX. I played with them at 56/56 in my Radical Pro.
     
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