Genesis Prototype Mutli

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  1. darklore009

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    I recently heard that there is a playtest from genesis. after deciding that i didnt get accepted to playtesting the new aero pro, I decided to sign up for it and i got accepted. I'm looking forward in trying their new string that is going on the market soon.
     
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  2. mikeler

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    There are supposedly 3 prototypes coming out. I'll be testing them next month.
     
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  3. darklore009

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    I'll post a pic of the string when i get it
     
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  4. darklore009

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    Just received the string today, going to string it tomorrow and will hit with it
    String Name: Mutli Max 16
    Gauge: 1.32mm
    Length: 12m
    Color: Sliver
     
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  5. mikeler

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    You only got 1 of the strings I see:

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  6. darklore009

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    what tension are you gonna set the strings at? i'm going to set mines at 52
     
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  7. mikeler

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    I use the Prince Exo Tour 16x18. It is extremely low powered so I plan on using it somewhere in th mid 50s. I may check with the peeps who sent me the string to get recommendations.
     
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  8. darklore009

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    i'm use the prince o3 black speedport on my playtest. i usually use a k90, but dont want to waste the string it has on it
     
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  9. darklore009

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    Decided to string it today. the strings looks nice with the o3 black
     
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  10. mikeler

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    I'll try the string you got last since you will have feedback on it. Thinking the hex will go first followed by the power.
     
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  11. lynnbart

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    I'm still waiting on my set. I need to restring now, so the timing is good if it will get here.
     
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  12. darklore009

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    Tension used for playtest: 54 ibs

    Regular string set up: Topspin Cyberflash 17lg, Gosen OG Mirco 17g

    Racquet brand and model used for test: Prince o3 Speedport Black

    Stringing: The string itself seems to be promising from looking at it and playing around with it, but after i start the mains, it changed. The string has a coating that would make a streaking sound when pulling the strings. Wouldnt say it's the worst, but it's not the best mutli to string with. 6.9/10

    Power of test string: Seems decent in power. I couldnt hit as hard as i want to because that ball would fly over to the fence. When swinging the racket at a long, slow swing, the string provides that power to make it over the net and lands in no mans land. 8.6/10

    Feel: The feel isn't quite there. I couldn't connect the ball when i strike it. It only has a slight feel when the string makes contact with the ball. It's not enough to feel to make a full connection to the ball. 5.7/10

    Spin: This string is average when it comes to spin. I use very flat and intense topspin in my groundstrokes. These string gives enough spin to company me when using a western forehand to create that intense topspin. 7.8/10

    Comfort: I have mixed feelings towards this string. It feels stiff and comfortable at the same time. The string did give a good amount of pop, and up at net, gives an average feel when trying to put away a point. I think the coating is a factor that makes the string stiff. 7.5/10

    Durability: I don't break strings like a stringbreak would, but these strings hold up just fine. it takes a while until you get through the first layer and into the internal layer. 8.0/10

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time): I left the racket there for about 4 hours before i left to the court. It did lose a bit of tension. However, after that, it became almost stable after that. I notice slight drop in playability, but not to the factor that affects your game. 8.2/10

    Control (predictable trajectory? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?): When i swing fast, the ball would fly and it become uncontrollable. When swinging with a long, slow swing, it's really easy to control the ball and place them anywhere in the court. I would say this string is built for recreational players than a competitive player like me. 8.5/10

    Compare to the string you use most often: This string did took some break-in. The string that I use requires me to swing the ball fast and give power and control. For this, you kinda have to let the racket and string do the work for you. I can use this for warmups and use my original setup when playing matches.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?): I think i should go at the same tension as a poly. It would solve the problem have having that stiff feeling.

    Overall: Decent, one of the durable mutli out there than the one i tried. Even though it doesn't suit my gamestyle, but it opens to recreational players that wanted an unfair advantage over the court.
    7.5/10
    Summary: List 1 or 2 primary likes and dislikes.
    Likes:
    1. Provides power and control for those playing recreational
    2. Tension stability
    Dislikes
    1. break-in time
    2. Stiff feeling
     
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  13. mikeler

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    Interesting review, good stuff.
     
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  14. darklore009

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    i gave the racket to my friend that plays for a tennis club that has a slow stroke and he became really consistent. i say this supports that fact it's suits for the recreational players.
     
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  15. lynnbart

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    I received my set of B Power 16g today. After stringing poly's for awhile it was very nice to string up.. Very soft feeling string. Hopefully we get to play tonight.
     
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  16. darklore009

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    looking forward to your review
     
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  17. Stringers

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    Got an email from Genesis that they sent my string today as well. Not sure what but it should be here this week. I'll post my thoughts in this thread as well.
     
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  18. mikeler

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    Guess I got lucky they sent me 3 to test out. I'm pretty impressed with their offerings not just with strings but other items as well. I just ordered two more hats from them. They sent a free one with a previous order and I just love it.
     
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  19. darklore009

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    looks like you did many things with genesis. guess they want you to be as a primary playtester for their products. =)
     
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  20. mikeler

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    I tested out the original Thunder Blast and also the newer white version but I think that is it from what I remember.
     
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  21. 3fees

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    I'd be interested on play test of the hex-comfort( hex-multifilament),hex poly I have used not hex-multi.


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  23. lynnbart

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    I was able to play for around 1.5 hours today with the B Power. I'm guessing this is the first full multi that I've played in a long time. Very solid and comfortable string.

    After using poly hybrids, this string was almost too easy to string. Ball pocketing is very good and it is way more low powered than I expected. In my PDR there really was no problem with balls going long. If someone wants to soften up a Pure Drive, this is a good string.

    Volleys, punch shots, 1hbh's, cut shots, were all excellent. I had to adjust my forehand some and use a longer swing, but otherwise it was very nice to play with. Nice access to spin, not like poly, but it is there. For an "old school" player this string will be excellent. It moved around as expected and also has that nice "thwop" sound when you hit the ball. Off center shots still felt nice.

    I'm hoping to get a few more hours this weekend and can tell more. Right now, this is a string I would sure look at keeping on hand....
     
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  24. bad_call

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    got my interest with this one. staying tuned here for longevity and other details.
     
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  25. mikeler

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    Looking forward to playtesting it.
     
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    Let us know if any of them play like X1 Bi-phase. I am looking for something with the same playability but at a cheaper price point. X1 plays great but at $275 a reel is starting to creep up there to natural gut.
     
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    This may be the first multi I've hit with since the 80's. When I started back, I was recommended a Luxilon string that started my quest through the poly's.

    Back then it seems like I always asked for "Gamma Gut". Fairly sure it wasn't real gut, but some kind of synthetic that would fray like crazy and played great as it frayed. It came in blue, some shade of pink, etc. I still have some of it in a Jack Kramer frame.

    I may have found that old feel that I've been missin. Anyone else remember using "Gamma Gut" ?
     
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  28. lynnbart

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    B Power is a very solid, low powered, comfortable multi string.

    It broke tonight after about 2.5 to 3 hours of playing and that maybe generous. If I could get 8 hours out of it, I'd sure use it some and I'll be willing to stock this string for a non string breaker.

    Other than durability, this is worth a try for multi/synthetic users.....I am anxious to hear how Mikeler and others than have more multi experience like it.
     
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  29. mikeler

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    Yikes, that is terrible durability. What is your NTRP level?
     
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  30. bad_call

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    might i ask what strings you use and how long they last.
     
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  31. lynnbart

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    Sure, I've been using a hybrid alternating between Iontec Black, B5Edge, Black Magic, and Cyclone. The Iontec Black is really durable for me and plays well for 10 days or so.

    I hate to admit, but I don't have a ranking. I'm over 100 miles from the nearest league and haven't made the committment yet. My son is playing his way through USTA and we make regular trips to see a swing coach and he has spent some time at an academy here in Texas. Our little community has around 2000 people total and I give a few lessons to the youngsters and try to hold a weekly hitting group during the summer.

    We're pretty remote out here.... :)
     
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  32. mikeler

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    I've never broken B5E mains in my previous PK 7G. Do you normally break the cross string first or the B5E?
     
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    ^ prefer west of San Antonio since the terrain is more interesting when road tripping from east to west.
     
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    I normally break the cross string first. We are using Prince Synthetic Original.

    Not sure about everyone else, but our hybrids will play longer before breaking than a full bed of poly does,,at least for us. The Cyclone seems to have to shortest durability though.

    The Iontec Black wears like iron....
     
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    Our family has a long tennis heritage in the Texas hill country town of Mason.
    I live quite abit north of there right now...
     
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  36. mikeler

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    Is Iontec the softest of all the polys you've tried?
     
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  37. Stringers

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    Got by the PO box to pick up the set of Hex Comfort today. I'll string it up later. Never played with a shaped multi so we'll see how it goes.
     
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  38. Stringers

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    Sorry for the huge pic...
     
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  39. lynnbart

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    In a hybrid it plays very well and comfortable, but I haven't tried it full bed yet. I'm going to try Black Widow or BHB7 next to see how they compare.
     
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  40. lynnbart

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    I'll be interested in how it plays....
     
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    Don't apologize for the picture size but do apologize for leaving your creepy man fingers in the pic. :)

    Also, the only other shaped multi out there I know of is Dunlop Hexy Fiber. I expect this to play about the same as that. Lots of spin with lower durability but I won't know until I try.
     
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  42. Stringers

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    lol huge creepy man fingers at that! I'm not expecting much from durability, but I'll string it and get some good hitting in this week and see how it holds up!
     
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  43. Stringers

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    Got it strung up. Ivory color looks good with the black frame.

    First impressions are that I couldn't believe how soft the string was! I could put it in a pillow case and sleep on it, it was that soft haha. Honestly, I felt more comfortable stringing gut the other day, that's how soft it is. String is limp too, so weaving the crosses took a little extra time.

    The grommets on my PB10 are stretched out over the years, but this was the first time I've had to worry about them damaging the string.

    Right off the stringer it came out to 52 pounds. I did the proverbial bounce test, which felt very nice. Had a very good response on impact, obviously it was very soft, which felt great in my flexy Volkl frame, also has a very muted feel, not many vibrations at all. I'll be interested to see how the hexagon profile does, but after the bounce test I think it's already start to fray ;)

    So far very impressed with the Genesis string! I've never tried Genesis so this we'll be fun for me. If it has any kind of durability at all, has a chance to be a great multi.

    Off to the courts now!
     
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  44. mikeler

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    No creepy fingers that time, so good pic. :)
     
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  45. lynnbart

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    Nice Gamma machine :)

    If the hex string is half as comfortable as the B Power you will really like it. It made my Pure Drive Roddick play like a pillow.
     
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  46. Stringers

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    haha nope! No fingers!

    Thanks!

    First hitting session is in the books and results are definitely positive. The string actually played a little stiffer than I was expecting, which wasn't a bad thing. Had a nice crisp feel to it.

    Power was about normal. Not a powerful string but not totally dead either, it was a good medium.

    Happy with the spin for a multi, not what you get from a poly but was definitely there and got some good bounce with my kick serves especially.

    Control and Touch Shots were good too. Soft enough on drop shots and touch volleys, crisp enough to keep everything in the court.

    Definitely a successful string from Genesis, obviously the string movement was bad but that was to be expected. So far 1 hour logged on the strings, durability will most likely be the deal breaker here as I imagine it will be for a lot of people, so we'll see how much hitting I get with it before it pops.

    First Impressions are a good string, hitting wise nothing stood out as amazing, but I don't have anything bad to say about it either. Hopefully I'll have a better opinion of it after a few more hitting sessions. But obviously a good string if you have elbow problems or are a fan of multis and are looking for some more spin/control, it's good in that regard.
     
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  47. mikeler

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    Thanks for the review.
     
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