Genesis Twisted Razor

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  1. drummerdan

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    I recently rec'd a test string from Genesis, which was then called the Tri Blade. It has been re-named to Twisted Razor recently. I playtested this string over a 1 week period (5 times out) and it's a fantastic string. This string has it all, imho. Spin out the wazoo, control and plenty of power makes this one of my highest ranked strings I've ever tested. I wrote about it in my blog but I didn't want to post a shameless link to it.

    Here's a pic of one of the balls after 3 sets:

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    Pretty amazing as I have never seen anything like it.

    I originally strung it at 55 lbs in my Volkl PB 10 Mid and hated it the first time out. On the second hit, I fell in love. It had softened up after the tension fell to around 50 lbs. It has held at a tension loss around 17% and it feels gooooood! :)

    My regular opponent said that my spin and power has increased lately and he was wondering why. He didn't even know that I was testing a new string. That says a lot, I think.

    I'll be changing my signature as soon as this string becomes available. :cool:
     
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  2. Jeepers

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    The tennis ball......wow!
     
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  3. coolblue123

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    seems like the link to the ball pic is dead. Do you have a URL? Also, where do people buy this string?
     
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  4. CDestroyer

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    I would never use Genesis strings. They give strings to people to give positive reviews about them. In reality they are cheap quality and overpriced.
     
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  5. Pwned

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    You're an idiot.
     
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  6. drummerdan

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    Weird. Here it is again.

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  7. drummerdan

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    Genesis said the public release date is March 14.
     
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  8. Fedace

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    All triblade or Hybrid job. I got a FREE sample yesterday from Genesis and i was contemplating just throwing it out or trying it. Is it really that good ? How come i never heard of this string ?:confused:
     
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  9. T1000

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    Both of those statements are completely false. What string company do you work for, mad that Genesis is better than whatever crap you put out?
     
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  10. Fedace

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    I did try the Genesis natural gut and it was 1st class material. very close to Babolat team gut with slightly more stiff feel. I think durability isn't as good as Babolat gut but playability is very close.
     
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  11. Larrysümmers

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    that ball...wow
     
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  12. BigT

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    the pic of the ball is very believable.:???:
     
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  13. Fedace

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    does this come in 17 G or 18 G ?
     
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  14. J_aces

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    Definitely try it. Should be close to RPM and maybe even better spin. Cant wait to get around to stringing it
     
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  15. J_aces

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    When did this get renamed? i prefer triblade
     
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  16. schenkelini

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    I like it too. It is a little rough on the elbow though. I think that a thinner gage might help the elbow a bit.
     
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  17. Larrysümmers

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    ^ did it tear up the tennis ball for you too?
     
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  18. Fedace

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    OK, i didn't mean that. I am supposed to play test this thing and post a review of it. I will do just that within next 2 weeks.
     
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  19. Fedace

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    It really isn't that big of deal ,,tearing up the tennis ball. I can do the same thing with Luxilon alu power rough.
     
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  20. Jonny S&V

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    I am of the opposite opinion unfortunately. I got the sample and strung it up the next day. As far as stringing goes, only Lux is worse. Seriously, sheer pain the butt to string.

    I played with it for 5.5 hours before it broke. The first hour was horrible, I couldn't get any rhythm going on anything. When it softened up, it got better, but the spin production wasn't enough to make up for the lack of touch. That went on for 4 hours, and then for the last .5 hour, it softened up enough that the feel was decent enough, but then it lost its spin.

    If there ever could've been a point where the two got together and were in harmony, this would be my dream string. However, that never happened... :neutral:
     
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  21. Fedace

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    What if you string it up very Loose to begin with ? Like 45-50 lbs ?
     
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  22. Jonny S&V

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    I already dropped the tension 3 lbs, my norm for textured polys. If it can't give me the combination that Blue Gear gave me, then it's probably not worth using (for me).
     
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  23. drummerdan

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    Yeah. I thought it was a little harsh and like I said, the first time out, I thought about cutting it out. The string became much more arm friendly as the tension went down. I am going to start out next time at 50 lbs and work down. The spin and control is so good where it is now (I measured it at around 47 lbs yesterday) that I think it'll be a great low tension string.
     
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  24. J_aces

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    You should find the tension loss between stringing and the time you like it and string that much lower
     
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  25. Jonny S&V

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    Eh, I guess I'm just tired of testing strings out and am very satisfied with my set-up right now, haha...
     
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    wow. The ball must of really pissed you off. It got the Agassi bald head treatment.

    Is it co-poly, or is it a full poly? Does it come in 18g? How much per set? Have you played with WC Silverstring? If so, how does it compare in terms of comfort/feel/power?

    I had experience with poly before and just afraid it's going to break my arm. The only string I had alittle bit of success with is Silverstring at 17g.
     
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    Looking at the ball...why has it only lost its fuzz on the top? : / the left hand side looks fine...
     
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  28. drummerdan

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    Yeah. It wasn't that way all over the ball but it was on significant sections.
     
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  29. J_aces

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    Doesn't come in 18 only 16l as of now and doubt it has good feel
     
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  30. drummerdan

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    I don't know what gauges are going to be available. I only know that my test string was a 16L (1.27mm).

    I have no idea how much it'll be. If it's too much ($11+ or so), it'll be tough to justify. However, it's a nice string even at a little higher price. It just may not be affordable to my customers. I find that no one wants to pay much above $25 for a stringjob.

    Silverstring is a nice string too but I prefer this one. The Silverstring is more comfortable, less powerful and a little less feel. The spin sets the Twisted Razor apart.

    Twisted Razor is a little harsh on the arm but at lower tensions, it's money.
     
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  31. DAS2011

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    What type of ball was that?
     
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  32. DrewRafter8

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    Have you used Typhoon? How does it compare?
     
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  33. *breaksracquet

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    just looking at the ball makes my elbow hurt. Drummer or anyone else, is this stuff rediculously stiff or what?

    Edit: nevermind, you answered it a few posts above.... READ!!!
     
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  34. drummerdan

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  35. drummerdan

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    Yes. Typhoon is softer but I don't remember Typhoon having this amount of spin. Still, Typhoon is a good string.
     
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  36. J_aces

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    Holy cow this was a real b!tch to string. My fingers are now killing me, mainly from the very last cross which simply would not go through. Made RPM feel like butter. Will be playing with it soon, Hope its worth what it took out of my hand
     
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  37. 408tennisguy

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    Anyone know if this is true? been waiting for this string and haven't been able to find it on the depot or the express.
     
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  38. 408tennisguy

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    Just called them and they said it will be released within the week. They don't have a label for the reels yet so they aren't ready for purchase
     
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  39. DrewRafter8

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    Individual packs are available right now. No reels though...
     
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  40. J_aces

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    Where are they available?
     
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  41. DrewRafter8

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    @ the depot
     
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  42. wrxtotoro

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    How is the tension maintenance so far?
     
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  43. EdVin70

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    I got a set on the way, anyone else have a report?
     
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  44. J_aces

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    This string has good spin, decent power, good tension maintenance and mediocre feel. It was cold the times I have played with it and will find out more this weekend when its supposed to be warmer
     
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  45. dgoran

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    Tested it out last night in a league match and I strung it at my usual typhoon tension which proved to be too much for me.

    Guys... definitely take advice of the above testers/posters and string this puppy @ 50 or below UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE MR P Kuchna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES_QA-VG-Ec) or James Blake.

    This is first string that I actually consider stringing at @45. I regret not trying it at lower tensions.

    String definitely has spin no question but its very stiff for me when strung at 55. RSI rated Typhoon (my current string of choice) at 237 units and definitely that is pushing my upper limit on stiffness that my arm can take.

    Maybe ATP professionals ala James Blake that usually string ALu super tight:
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    can take this string but not amateur like myself.

    For me stringing was not as tough as stringing typhoon or Alu Rough.

    All that being said performance is there no question Serves were popping spin was jumping off the court. Control was there so for someone little tougher that me this could be a great string but for me I will stay with typhoon.

    As a reference 2nd set I played with typhoon and it felt like Nat gut in comparison that lead me to believe that if typhoon's stiffness is in 237 this string bust be in 250's
     
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  46. EdVin70

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    Good to know - I string my racquets at really low tension so hopefully it will not give me any arm problems.
     
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  47. J_aces

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    Played again with it today. Great string. Would love to try it in a hybrid for it to be a little softer and better feel but it's not harsh. Much softer than lux
     
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  48. drummerdan

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    Agree with the above assessment. I just rec'd a supply of this string and it'll be going into my racquet at 49 lbs. That may even be a touch too high. This strings kicks butt at lower tensions but don't even think about going high tension or your arm will hate you.
     
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  49. J_aces

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    I'm doing ok at 54 but I'm working my way down to lower tensions. Is it really powerful at your tension?
     
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  50. drummerdan

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    It has good power but I haven't lost control. Over time, it has worked its way down in the low to mid 40's and it's still excellent. 55 was just too stiff but I love it in the 40's.
     
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