Gilbert is now free!

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by RoddickistheMan, Nov 13, 2007.

  1. skip1969

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    the only reason i would even want irksome gilbert to find another player to coach is to keep him out of the commentary booth. the less i see or hear of him, the better.
     
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  2. rosenstar

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    Blake could actually use a coach like gilbert
     
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  3. superman1

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    I agree, Blake is the best choice. Agassi dropped him because he learned all he needed to know. Gilbert probably ran out of things to say, if that's possible. Blake still has a lot to learn upstairs, and that's Gilbert's specialty.
     
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  4. RoddickistheMan

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    To answer some questions about why roddick left gilbert. I got some inside info from people close to him. Roddicks father didnt want roddick to continue to pay gilbert. Also the lack of grandslam titles just fueled the fire. I believe blake would indeed benefit the most form gilbert however blake is way too stubborn with his coaching choice. Hes been with the same coach since he was a youngin and will not leave him for gilbert. Sad but gilbert could propel blake into the top 5 in no time. I think querrey will be a good match but he seems like hes not as motivated or hungry as most young talent. Young seems motivated and would likely transition to gilberts conservative thinker tennis with relative ease. Isner has a huge serve that and decent groundstrokes and would be a great palyer to coach as well. Too bad roddick wont get him back though.
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  5. Morrissey

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    I haven't read the posts in here yet but I think he should coach Blake, mainly because he's starting to drop in rankings and he's been with Brian Barker since he became pro. It's obvious that he needs a different voice and someone to help him become less one-dimensional, that go for broke style on every point would be something Gilbert would try to change. Roddick would be my second choice but I think he would just get mad at Brad all over again. He's at a stage in his life where he just needs to maintain his current level because no one will add new things to his game. Outside of them I can't see anyone else. Not Hewitt, Safin, Joker, Fed, Nadal, Davy, Nalby, etc. Brad sticks with native english speaking athletes. Mainly Americans.
     
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  6. Rhino

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    ^^Hey Morrissey, noticed they deleted our Phil-bashing thread? Spoil sports!
     
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  7. Moose Malloy

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    He's been with Barker since he was like 10, not just since he was pro. I think Gilbert has a better chance of being Blake's next girlfriend than his next coach.
     
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  8. ledor

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    Federer doesn't need Brad Gilbert to "win ugly"
     
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  9. Tennis_Bum

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    Well said.
     
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  10. Tennis_Bum

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    You can't be serious. Annacone was lucky to have coached soneone like Sampras. Look at what or how he did with Tim Hennman. Annacone was so overrated as a coach.
     
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  11. Tennis_Bum

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    Safin would literally kill him in a practice session. Brad can't never stop talking.
     
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  12. Tennis_Bum

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    Agree with first sentence. Not sure about Fed is in a hurry to hire a coach though. I don't think he needs one. I hope he continue to play without a coach. He's one heck of a player and seems to figure things out very well without a coach. When he loses a match people start writing he needs a coach. He won a bunch of GS after he splitted with Peter Lundgren (sp) and he also got to the final at FO and won Wimbledon and US Open after he splitted with Tony Roche. He knows how to play without a coach. Of course, coaches and others will disagree with me.
     
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  13. Alexio92

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    I want him
     
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  14. hoosierbr

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    BG not being around Roddick all the time was good for both of them as they're both volatile personalities that were bound to clash. Same with AA and Murray.

    Gilbert's problem, I think, is that he enjoys being the Phil Jackson of tennis coaches, or so people like to call him, and that gets on people's nerves. Also his incessant talking would drive any sane person nuts, the very reason why Federer would never hire Gilbert. Fed would be closer to suicide than a French Open title w/Gilbert in his box.

    Also, Murray should take his share of the blame. He tends to use people then dumps them when they're no longer useful to him. He did that to Mark Petchey who quit his job to coach him full-time and now BG. His brother did that to Eric Butorac this year thinking guys would line up to play doubles with him but that didn't turn out to be the case. Self-importance seems to run in the family.

    Murray, like Roddick, will discover he acted prematurely and rue the decision for a long time.
     
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  15. NLBwell

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    Just got done watching a tape of Bagdatis vs. Federer at Cincy this year. Bagdatis should have won (it was tough conditions and neither played great) and was thinking about how physically he could dominate Federer at times and just mentally needed to be stronger and smarter. Gilbert could be a really good coach for him as the things he brings are Bagdatis' weaknesses and it seems that Bagdatis is easy-going enough to put up with Gilbert for a pretty good amount of time.
     
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  16. Fedace

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    To all you , that are dreaming about Brad coaching Foreign player, Not going to happen. Even Murray was a stretch and he is english. Culture is just too different with Brad. Brad is just an all american that loves sports, and likes to eat burger and beer and just talk trash over barbeque and so on. Roddick worked for so long just cause brad and andy had so many things in common.
     
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  17. Fries-N-Gravy

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    BG was perfect for agassi because physically agassi didn't need any help. he had the groundstrokes and a decent serve to begin with. he already had the talent to win, he just needed someone to tell him to calm down and teach him how to focus, what to focus on.

    not every player is good/smart enough to benefit from that.

    blake would probably benefit from gilbert although i don't know if he'd win the USO. he's never parting ways with brian though. he seems happy and more than content to even be playing in the top 20
     
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  18. Harry_Wild

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    This may surprise you; but Federer is pretty much unstoppable already! He seems to do better without a coach/manager then with one!
     
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  19. Morrissey

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    Yeah I noticed it, I was really starting to get into it too. :) I could've gone another 5 months on that thread alone. Lol! But yeah, I suppose it was the "right" thing to do, but it was fun ganging up and bashing Phil into oblivion. It's basically what he does to everyone else anyway. Hey Rhino what was up with that groupie of his? She kinda popped out of nowhere and defended the jerk. Now that added a new twist to it all didn't it?
     
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  20. babolatking

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    I can also see djokovic too
     
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  21. vsbabolat

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    Andy Murray would be highly insulted to read that you called him English. Murray is Scottish!
     
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  22. Morrissey

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    Very well put, I agree with all of the post. I think the only possible person to go to would be Blake. His ranking is slipping and he's starting to slowly decline. Now would be a nice last stand for him to have BG on his side, plus Blake needs to let go of longtime coach Barker, it's time for a new coach to give him some ideas, not that Blake plays a very strategic game anyway. "Bash it, they got it back? Bash it harder!"
     
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  23. Morrissey

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    I think he'd also be insulted if you called him charming or charismatic.
     
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  24. FEDEXP

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    Please tell me it isn't true: do I have to listen to him again on ESPN?
     
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  25. rommil

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    If you read Blake's book you will have a feeling that he is going to stick with Brian Barker, good or bad rankings.
     
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  26. christo

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    Murray probably got the idea to give Gilbert the flick, from his Mother, who seems omnipresent. Much like Hewitt whose parents hang around like him like Australian bushflies. How some of these players mature is beyond my comprehension when the parents won't leave and get a real job.
     
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  27. Phil

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    No, actually I do it all by my lonesome-I don't need a possy, like you do, moronissy. Strength in one for me...cowardice in numbers for you.
     
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  28. Tempest344

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    He would be a good coach for Gasquet
    i think he would help Gasquet become much tougher mentally
     
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