Giving up on Roddick? ...more ways than one.

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  1. Thomas Bird-Itch

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    No, I realize the guy probably will never beat the top players again, but I mean appreciating him as a good sportsman. I have tried over the years to find things to like about him, like the jokes, candid behavior off the court, etc, but he just acts a jerk too often.

    Last week I remember him clearly giving a "F U" to one of the linesmen after getting a bad call on his serve. Was that really necessary? That was after he just won his service game. Bad calls happen. That's life, Andy. Get over it. He's just like that certain other American guy we all knew in the 80's (not his coach), except Roddick isn't that talented.
     
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    I cannot stand that Roddick is the face of American tennis. It seems Roddick has to hate his opponent and get upset at everyone just to get thru his matches. I think Connors will only help him to be a bigger jackass. i know pro tennis is a different level of intensity, but I hope some nice guys like S Querry, S jenkins, and Isner can knock him off.
     
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    This made me LOL coming from someone with the handle "Nastase." ;)
     
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    I really and truly believe that Roddick has a very low IQ or below average intelligence. H probably struggled through whatever schooling he had. Its obvious when you watch him play and he is getting beat. He has not ability to think out there.

    Is he the biggest jerk in American tennis history?? No, but at this point he is America's biggest name and for him to act in the manner his has acted in his whole career I can only hope he just goes away. He makes me sick.
     
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    Andy Roddick's game is like a bully. He plows with it and works on some people but doesn't work on people with power AND intelligence to unhinge him. I really tried to look at angles to like the guy I(he has a very good fighting spirit that I relent) but nothing works for me. He gets physically and emotionally spastic, he argues incessantly for a long time and he tries to look for acknowledgement( see after he hits a good shot and the way he looks up and around the crowd).When a call goes against him, he acts like an oppressed person and makes it sound like the officials are conspiring against him. My biggest gripe is how Roddick argues over and over again on a certain point and never lets go. Sorry i just don't like Roddick. I have found other better and more enjoyable players to cheer for.
     
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    I agree. Roddick's is not the type of tennis I want to watch or cheer for. From watching on TV, I can say he acts like a jerk.
     
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  7. Lleytian3

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    wow this thread is badly mistaken. it should be a "lets bash andy roddick" or instead "FU to roddick".

    cmon guys give it up. dont you guys have any more to talk about than to bash the #4 player in the world. he acts cocky and sometimes act like a jerk on the court but he is a nice down to earth guy off the court. i know this because i actually talked and had a conversation with him and james blake, with no cameras around and it was just a bunch of nobody people.

    he doesnt even act that bad on court, sure he has a few incidients but has he ever thrown a racquet at a ball kid/linesman. pro's in the past have. has he ever violently thrown his racquet in the crowd out of frustration?? has he ever hit a ball directly in the crowd out of frustration. nope. all he does like any other pro has done is chew out the chair umpire and argue with linesman. who hasnt done that, roddick has NOT done anything serious that endangers anyone.

    and talking about how smart he is. everybody that knows tennis, know that is 50% mental and 50% physical, anybody that disputes that obviously does not know the sport at all. so saying roddick has a low IQ and now he is #4 in the world, is ironic in-of-it-self.
     
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    I sorta expected this even before clicking the thread. People here really hate Roddick with a passion.

    I won't make excuses for his misbehaviors, but really...you take the good with the bad in people. He may act like an arse at times to officials, but that still doesn't take away what he's given to charities and what a fun guy he is off the court. I can't think of a more witty interviewee in tennis right now.

    Some people just like to hate him for whatever reason (American, loud, confident, swears, etc.), and only focus on the negative news. That's fine with me, so long as they realize what a bitter and spiteful bunch they are.
     
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    i saw him punch a kitten in the face on court once
     
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    I like your username; the irony is delicious. ;-)
     
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    Roddick is an undiscipline, big mouth, pot belly, lout. He has the charisma of a net-court. Everytime he stop ball bashing and attempt a two hand backhand down the line he look like a bull in a china shop. He need to bow at the feet of all around good guy, James Blake, and learn some humility.

    If he didn't have a 140mph serve he'd be working in an oil field in Austin, Texas.
     
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    ya i am getting sick of this Roddick-bashing 24/7 on this board... hes #4 in the world... when u get that high, u have the right to criticize him... there are far worse players we can talk about, and all ppl on these boards want to focus on is Roddick.............
     
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    Nastase..er, yes well...he at least had brilliant talent....he just forgot to practice as one collegaue said about him. But he had a good sense of humor 90% of the time and fun with it many times...Roddick doesnt have his talent or a sense of fun IMO. delicious irony..can I use that one?
     
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    Yes you may. I thought it was funny, too. :)
     
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    I really really want to like Roddick (as a tennis player or as an american).. man.. the guy is too too dumb.. He is just a serving machine beside that he can't think on the court.. If his serve went off.. he's done.. He quickly picked up the ball and hit hard & harder without any thinking.. His stupidity make me dislike him.. I missed the old American players.. forget about the great ones, a top 100 ranking player at least do some thinking out there or at least trying to think.. Roddick is just clueless..
     
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    Agreed.......
     
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  17. Lleytian3

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    wow, goin by your logic of the 140mp serve then that means people like karlovic, jochaim johannson, goran, john isner, all shouldnt be playing tennis then. that even means the one of the greatest of all time pete sampras shouldnt have played either huh, since he pretty much how the biggest/best serve ever in tennis. they all should be working at some oil field huh. great logic buddy. thats some great thinking

    well im sorry roddick doesnt have quite the forehand you do, or the superp backhand you do. yep, im sure roddick should retire since he doenst have the tremendous groundstrokes you have. you have an incredible sense of humor. please, i really want to know what kind of drugs you do, hey maybe if i smoke some of your stuff, i can teach tiger woods how to play golf.
     
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  18. Thomas Bird-Itch

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    I'm not saying the guy has no talent. His serve is one of the best on tour. But his on court behavior is immature for a "role model." Do you guys think that's acceptable because he contributes to charities, just part of the show, or what? I singled him out b/c he's a fellow countryman. I don't think I've ever heard anyone call James Blake a jerk, probably b/c he doesn't say FU to the linespeople!

    If you'd like me to pick on other people I'll suggest Nicholas "racquet tosser" Kiefer, Andy "my own worst enemy" Murray, Lleyton "trash talker" Hewitt, etc. Ok Safin's racquet smashing is destructive and immature, but he doesn't direct his anger at other people (not FU's anyway). That is my point - accept that YOU are the reason you lose the match, etc and treat your opponent and everyone else with some respect. If you blow up, it's ok to smash your racquets, but it's not ok to say FU to someone who's just trying to do their job.
     
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    Have you ever listened to him talk during an interview? He is highly intelligent. I am not an Andy fan, but don't put down a guys intelligence or IQ when you have no way of knowing or have jumped onto the bandwagon of bashing Andy.

    I'll bet when he won the US Open, you were his biggest fan....:confused:
     
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    Listen, I like Andy Roddick as much as anyone - I certainly cheer harder for him than anyone else on tour - but when you make statements like this, it really hurts your credibility even if you have talked to him. Roddick has thrown his racquet numerous times, even if they are just usually the left handed slam it-by-the-throat type that aren't as damaging. Who on tour throws their racquet at the crowd? He definitely has hit the ball into the crowd plenty of times, I was at Indy this summer and he hit a ball over the entire stadium! (It was actually pretty cool if you ask me.)

    Roddick's on court behavior really is inexcusable, and it would be nice if he could clean up his act, if only for the fact that it brings down his game. He gets hung up on perceived wrongs and then lets it get to his focus.
     
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    hey man, can you read. did i ever say, he never threw his racquet. please read carefully, i said he never ever threw his racquet at a ball kid/linesman or violently into the crowd, like becker has. boris has violentry thrown his racquet in the crowd out of frustration. and coria threw his racquet at a ball kid though he it was a accident, he flew it at the wall and it happened to hit the ball kid. thats jus off the top of my head, im shur they are other examples

    i really hope your not talkin about him hitting the ball into the stands after the match. over the entire stadium, is not violently in the crowd, where it culd seriously injure someone. if roddick has in fact done that, please prove an specific example instead of saying "plenty of times".

    next time you want to criticize me for saying something buddy the very least you could do is READ my entry correctly.
     
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    Honestly, I guess I didn't understand your post because I thought you had mistyped what you meant to say. No players seriously fire their ball line-drive style at the crowd or and the cases where players throw their racquet at the crowd/linespeople are extremely rare (and likely mostly accidents) and should be thrown out of any discussion about bad behavior on court. I do remember Andre Agassi hitting a purposefully long serve at a line judge that he thought was making bad calls against him in the Wimbledon semis in 2000 I believe, which another example of extreme on court bad behavior that rarely ever happens. Bringing those examples into your defense of Roddick to me is akin to saying Bush isn't that bad of a war-time president because he never used a nuclear bomb on the enemy.

    Roddick's on-court arguing, swearing, and ball abuse by hitting the ball anywhere after a point are what gets me frustrated about him. Those are the main things that pro players do on court, and Roddick does quite a bit more than his fair share.
     
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    I'm a Roddick fan because he's pretty much carried US men's singles tennis on his back for the last so many years. His Davis Cup record is outstanding and he might lead the US to win the Davis Cup this year. He's the last US men's player to win a major since when??

    However, I do wish we had another American to root for who has even just a slight chance to win a grand slam. It's kind of depressing.
     
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    Obviously they do happen and obvioulsy they happen a lot more than you think. of course no players do those horrible things on purpose but they do it nonetheless which we obviously have to include. why should they be thrown out of discussion just because it was an accident. well i guess going by your bush example, we can then say "o ok, sorry we invaded you iraq we thought you had nuclear weapons, our bad". but it was an accidnet right so we can jus throw that out of discussion too. cmon now man

    ill admit some bad court behavior are inexcusable, but others are fine. examples are like safins racquet throwing and roddicks on court swearing. they add color to the game of tennis which we so utterly need. we need them to express their passion for the game. as much as we need to hear rafael nadal's VAMOS and lleyton hewitt's CMON, we need to see players get frustrated with themselves and do what they do. tennis needs this to show how much players love the game and how much they love to play it
     
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    You're not making much sense here (especially with what you said about Bush), but in conclusion I'll just say that swearing at umpires doesn't show that Roddick loves tennis - if he was swearing at himself, then I'd buy that argument. But his comments about wanting to beat Federer, playing hard for his country, and dedicating his life off the court to getting better do show that he loves tennis though, and that's why I'll continue to cheer for him while hoping that he stops his whiny complaining crap.
     
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    Does that make him seem like a crybaby. try put yourself in roddicks or any pros shoes that chews out the umpire. your playing a tight semifinal match, btw this is just an example, it never really happened to any pro, if it did it was conocidence. but your playing a grand slam semifinal match where the person you meet in the final you have a good chance of beating awaits you. you are in the 5th set at 5-5. your opponent is seving at 30-40. if you can break him you can serve out the match. your in control of the point and hit a solid winner on the far end of the court. the umpire immediately overrules and say the ball was out. deuce. tell me you would take the umpires word for it and not argue then you can talk to me about "whiny complaining crap"
     
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    Amen. Can't count how many people I had to tell in Shanghai that many Americans are embarrassed by his antics.

    Don't justify Roddick's juvenile behavior with others bad behavior.

    You should have seen what he did to a sheep once... :)
     
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    Anyone remember the 2004 Miami final against Coria? Coria started to struggle physically in the first set with what looked like back pain that got worse and worse so he went for broke and eventually took the first set. Roddick was doing impressions of Coria and complaining that he was faking it to get injury timeouts to throw Roddick off his game.

    Coria ended up retiring with what we later found out to be kidney stones, he must of been in excruciating pain.

    That's Roddick for you.
     
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    I was hoping to stop, but I couldn't resist here. This is actually kind of funny because it not only did almost this exact scenario happen to Roddick but it proves my point as well, I almost used it in one of my prior posts. I didn't because the match happened 6 years ago, when Roddick was inexperienced and immature, but he hasn't changed his ways too much since then unfortunately. Just to fill you in, because you might not be old enough to remember it, in 2001 #18 Roddick played #4 Hewitt at the US Open Quarters in a night match. Roddick wasn't even a top player yet, it was just after his 19th birthday - it was his first real opportunity to prove himself. Hewitt was one of the favorites, if not the favorite, to win his first major. Roddick was serving at 4-5, first point of the game he hits a forehand inside out, called in, but overruled by the umpire on the far side of the court (Replays showed it to look like it may have caught a little of the line). He literally goes berserk, even making a gesture toward the umpire after the next point (which he wins). By letting the call get to him instead of just taking it for what it was (just a 0-15 hole on his serve), he gets broken in that game for the match. If Roddick could have kept the complaining to a minimum and just focused on getting some first serves in, who knows what happens? Hewitt went on to win his next two matches, dropping only 12 games in total, for the title.
     
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    HAHAAHAHA. This is the funniest thing I've read in a while. Sadly, what you say is true.
     
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  31. CRDLIBERTY

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    You have to break 5 racquets on the ground or over the fence lol to comment

    It would be pretty easy to get into roddicks head, take bunch of time bettween his serves. I noticed he plays with mo:grin: mentum take that away and hes a punk
     
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    he really let's his mouth go which is terrible. I mean it is understandable to curse on the court or throw your racket (even though that is not good to do). But saying F U to a linemen or calling players on the other side of the net name (remeber that match with Tsonga at the AO?).
     
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    Roddick's interviews are very fun to watch. He is funny and extremely witty. How many players look flabbergasted getting beat by a guy who is playing out of his mind? What would you do? I will give you some time to think on it sense you seem to be the smartest guy in the world. LOL!
     
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  34. Thomas Bird-Itch

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    It's the same thing with Hewitt and many, many others. I tried to like the guy for a long time, but the excessive abuse toward mostly lines people just got ridiculous. I wish these guys were fined or docked points every time this happens. No wonder not everyone in his country likes him.

    Like I said, the only reason I singled Andy out is b/c I live in the same country. It's one thing to have a fighting spirit, but so many of these guys (kids really) lack, and perhaps never find, maturity. I guess when all you've done is play tennis your entire life and looked at like you're some kind of superhuman being that you eventually begin to believe it. That doesn't make it OK to speak to other people like they're not human. Lleytian3, do you understand yet?
     
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    I used to be a Roddick fan... but he seriously needs to calm the f down on the court. If nothing else, his press conferences are still good though... hahaha
     
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  36. Thomas Bird-Itch

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    Here's some logic: Since you haven't noticed, the players are not always right when they use ShotSpot. If they were, you might have an arguement.

    And lines people are not perfect like you. they are human, ok? i'm sure you see 140+ mph serves everyday though and would never miss a call, right?

    Oh, and saying "FU" to a linesman isn't exciting; it's embarassing that these clowns get away with treating other people so rudely.
     
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    It's always a good sign when Roddick's biggest closet fans come out of their holes to profess their never-ending concern for Roddick's well-being, his brain (or lack of), and the trajectory of his career.

    As long as you keep on talking, watching, and caring about him, then it's all good.
     
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    Funny interviews? Yeah Roddick can be witty but he tries to be (ok I really don't like him). Safin is a lot more NATURAL and FUNNY. Bitter and spiteful? Ok I give you that especially now thinking how I start to have this evil smile when I see Roddick facing a match point. But really and I ask you this, why do a lot of people dislike Roddick?(Jealousy is not a valid reason since we all know there are a lot better tennis players to be jealous from).
     
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    at least he gives a good interview after he gets beaten!
     
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    So you have been enjoying a lot of good interviews lately?
     
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    do you kno why we have shotspot in the first place, because the linesman get so many calls wrong to beign with. we know they are human, buddy thats why we allowed them to make their fair share of mistakes. obiviously there are too much mistakes, hence shotspot. obviously the atp were right since now they have shotspot at almost all major tournments.

    Rudlely?!? are you kidding me. linesman only get treated rudely when they make an obvious bad line call. which they do, they do not get treated like this every match at every tournement. its jus like wen your boss chews you out for making a mistake. same thing, only thing the pro's arent the boss of the linespeople. some of the line calls are horrendous, take serena v justines us open match a few years ago. and..they are many others
     
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    I never like Roddick.
     
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    You are too funny. You really think an INTERVIEW shows how smart or dumb someone is? The guy has a low IQ...he probably had trouble in the logical areas of education (math and reading). He says the same old crap in EVERY interview...that's not smart but polished. He has been doing these interviews for 8 plus years. His game speaks volumes about how intelligent he is. If you don't see that, then no point in wasting my time with you.

    A fan...NEVER. I actually wanted to like the guy because he is/was America's best hope. I really gave an effort to be a fan, but I could not do it. I found myself rooting against him very quickly...why is that? Its because he is as rude and obnoxious as anyone in tennis. I have said this before and will again...the guy has NO HEART. I have no respect for an athelete don't won't literaly die to win. He is the type of guy that would run away in war...remember the guy in Saving Private Ryan (the one that let the Jewish guy get stabbed in the chest), that would be Roddick.

    Your whole rebuttal is hypocritcal by the way.
     
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    Funny how you guys think an interview shows how smart someone is. Have you ever seen Kevin Garnett in an interview....SERIOUSLY have you? Have you ever seen Richard Hamilton (both NBA players) in an interview? They both speak very well and seem intelligent. How wrong some people are. Garnett is borderline mentally retarded (excuse my political incorrectness) and Hamilton is lucky he even has the ability to spell CAT.

    How do I know this...I won't tell, but its true. Garnett could not even get a 700 on his SAT's. He scored in the 500's. You get 400 for signing your name correctly. Hamilton....that has been debated how he scored high enough....seriously debated with students at UConn and teachers!

    I never claimed to be the smartest person in the world...don't be an ***. I am no the only one in this thread that thinks he has low intelligence. Never said he was not funny, but he is not very bright.
     
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    Actually i think it's quite fitting, in the same way that Federer is the face of Swiss tennis, Nadal is the face of Spanish tennis, Hewitt the face of Australian tennis, Henman the face of English tennis... they each show very much the personalities of their countries.
     
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    I think you´re being too hard on Australians ;)
     
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  47. ktownva

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    Not giving up just yet. In the last year, he reached the US Open final, was a point away from beating Fed at the Masters, is playing up to his ranking for the most part this summer. It would be foolish for anyone to write him off, especially his opponents.
     
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  48. Keifers

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    Whoa there! You'd be dead wrong on this one.

    Hewitt is disliked by many Aussies precisely because his behavior is so un-Australian.
     
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    well despite all of the negativity on this board, I like Roddick. He is the only decent american player we have and I pull for him to win every chance I get. Honestly, I don't think he has the game to beat the top 2 players but he did play well against djoker. Only a couple of bad volley during that last game cost him the match.
     
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  50. Pele

    Pele Guest

    Slappano-"You are too funny. You really think an INTERVIEW shows how smart or dumb someone is? The guy has a low IQ...he probably had trouble in the logical areas of education (math and reading). He says the same old crap in EVERY interview...that's not smart but polished. He has been doing these interviews for 8 plus years. His game speaks volumes about how intelligent he is. If you don't see that, then no point in wasting my time with you."

    When you speak in hyperbole about someone elses intellect it calls in to question your intelligence.
     
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