Not sure how this relates to our discussion, but ok, I'll try to oblige. So a player who hits any shot, then moves forward is attacking? Just because he moved forward? So when a player takes a mid ct ball he can barely reach because it is low and skidding away, and he half volleys it down the line weakly only to get crushed by a passing shot on his poor attempt....this dtl is attacking?? because he moved forward? I guess it is clear that a player moving back is retreating, so guess that is not in question, but sounds like you think any moving back is bad. Is that what you mean about retreating?