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Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by hoodjem, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. kiki

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    some people developed a thread discussing great all time matches - that never took place-.

    In the view of this discussion, I´d like to add to my colection a Hoad or Gonzales vs Nadal, or vs Borg which would pitt the most formidable offensive force against the most perfect defensive machines.
     
  2. Dan Lobb

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    This would be a composite match, consisting of elements of actual matches. But who can say what would happen on a given day? Just about anything COULD happen.
     
  3. kiki

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    Bobby, do you know that Ken Rosewall blamed his daddy for turning him a right handed when he was a natural lefty?
    He said he would have had a much tougher serve if he had kept on being lefty...and we all kniw that a Rosewall with a better first ball would have won a Wimbledon title or two
     
  4. BobbyOne

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    kiki, As far as I know Rosewall never accused his father for the shift from left to right. But you are right that Muscles mentioned the serve weakness. In fact I agree that Rosewall would have been much stronger with a stronger service.

    The shift from left to right was usual in those days, regarding writing and so on, alas!

    Regarding Wimbledon I hope you meant that Rosewall would have won one or two out of the four finals he played at Wimbledon. In fact it's common sense among experts that Muscles would have won several Wimbledon titles, regardless if with a strong or "weak" service, if he played at Wimbledon in his peak years, i.e. 1961 to 1964.
     
  5. kiki

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    I didn´t mean to blame his father as an accusation but he regreted that he had been somewhat forced to turn right handed which, as you said, was usual in those years.

    Nobody can prove that he would have won Wimbledon with a better serve although I think he could have been able to surprise John Newcombe or Jaro Drobny in the two finals he lost over 5 sets.

    However, I don´t think he could have beaten 1956 Hoad or 1974 Connors, even with a better serve.Of course, in the early 60´s, he would have been the favourite, along Pancho Gonzales and from 1963 till 1967, he could ahve challenged Rod Laver.
     
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    kiki, Drobny beat Rosewall in four sets but I believe that Rosewall has said that this was his closest defeat. Muscles was ill-advised by Hopman for that final.
     
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    It was not uncommon to switch from left hander to a right hander in those days. Margaret Court was a natural lefty and she become a right hander. Court had a great serve.

    Nadal did it the other way. He switched from being a right hander to a left hander.

    I would say that all three were pretty successful.
     

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