Going deep vs Going wide

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by luishcorreia, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. papa

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    I know of no credible coach or any book that advocates painting the baseline. As players skill sets improve they are able to control the ball to the point where getting "close/closer" might be more of an option under certain circumstances.

    You have basically suggested that "everyone" teaches/advocates hitting extremely deep on a regular basis - this just isn't the case. What might be considered a risky shot at one level isn't at another - several other posters have brought this to your attention also.

    There are probably hundreds of tennis books that have been published over the last hundred years. I probably have close to fifty, others like Dave Smith have many more, but I quite confident not one of them advises players to paint the baseline. This is something I believe you've invented/created for your own purposes.

    Many of us come from technical or educational backgrounds where
    references are extremely important/necessary. As far as I know, you have not provided any references other than general comments & you have not provided any specific information on this new charting system which allows you to come to these conclusions. Suggesting that analysis of pro matches applies to all levels is also something that most of us probably have problems with - once again, if you have solid evidence that proves otherwise, give us references or data that proves your point.

    You can jump up and down and try to deflect the questions but most here are smart enough to see through this technique. Your very quick when cornered to start saying things which you and everyone else knows aren't true and you cannot provide examples of what your saying.

    You have been asked for references and example of your charting to support your position - to date I haven't seen any.
     
  2. arche3

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    I don't think anyone said paint the lines ever anywhere. But there are numerous examples of people on here. On other websites. Instructional articles that state deeper is better . Coaches say deeper is better all the time. No one actually says maybe shorter is better. Of course given the player is of sufficient level to hit heavy spin and pace.
    The fact is true that deeper causes errors. On both sides. Shorter is safer but it might be too easy a ball.
    Watching the top guys play it is obvious they are hitting shorter and working the point more. More cautious. Not going for the one two punch.
    It is also true while rec players are not pros without the same skill set it is also true that the level of our opponents are at our same level. I would say for me a conscious thought about shorter and angles is having great results. My ue are down and I'm working the court much better. Winning easier.
     
  3. thug the bunny

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    The horse is not only dead, it's rotting. You guys, in between belittling each other, are saying the same sh1t over and over. Let it go.
     
  4. 5263

    5263 G.O.A.T.

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    Archie3, thanks for sharing your take on it which is inline with my experience.
    I'm taking the good advice from thug above and moving on.
     
  5. Chezbeeno

    Chezbeeno Semi-Pro

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    It sometimes depends on who you're playing. I played a guy once who beat me because I was focusing more on hitting angles than hitting with depth. The few times I focused more on depth I ended up coming out on top, but I didn't realize that until too late. THEY ARE OF EQUAL-ish IMPORTANCE
     
  6. papa

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    "Painting lines" is a phrase many of us use when players start going too deep/wide - dangerous for most players. Although very skilled players can go for more without frequent error, most players would be well advised to keep the ball a few feet in when going long and a foot or two on the sidelines.
     

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