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  1. pound cat

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    Rogers takes over sponsorship of ATP Tennis Masters Canada event
    11/02/2005 2:07:00 PM

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    TORONTO (CP) - In finally landing a new title sponsor for the ATP Tennis Masters Canada event, Tennis Canada has at long last recovered the guaranteed revenue stream it needs to develop the sport at the grassroots level.


    Rogers Communications Inc., acquired the naming rights for the annual men's event as part of a four-year multimillion-dollar deal announced Friday.

    The agreement runs from 2005 through 2008 and also extends the corporate giant's sponsorship of the country's annual WTA event.

    Both tournaments, which alternate between Toronto and Montreal on a yearly basis, will be called the Rogers Cup.

    "Corporate sponsorships, corporate activity and ticket sales at our events is where we get 90 to 95 per cent of our revenue," said Jack Graham, Tennis Canada's chairman. "So this is absolutely critical."

    The men's event has been without a title sponsor since 2001, when Swiss marketing firm ISL went bankrupt. That was a huge blow to Tennis Canada, particularly after 1999 Federal anti-tobacco legislation ended Imperial Tobacco's 21-year sponsorship of both the men's and women's events.

    "This has been a long time in coming," said Stacey Allaster, Tennis Canada's vice-president and tournament director. "We're just thrilled.

    "The title sponsor makes the event more profitable, so that we can give more money to tennis development."

    Rogers has sponsored the women's event since 2001, and its initial agreement ran through 2006. As part of that deal, Rogers had to tell Tennis Canada this year whether it wanted to extend the sponsorship.

    "They finally realized that if they're going to own tennis, they should own all of it and the entire company should get involved," said Allaster.

    The deal caps a busy two weeks of investing in sports properties for Rogers.

    First, it closed a $25-million Cdn deal to buy the SkyDome, renaming it the Rogers Centre, and gave the Toronto Blue Jays $210 million US to spend on payroll over the next three years.

    Then Rogers teamed up with rival Bell Globemedia to win the TV rights for the 2010 and 2012 Olympics for $153 million US.

    "I think everybody is interested in sports, all members of the family," said owner Ted Rogers. "That's important to because we're a family company."

    The Rogers Cup events will be promoted at the company's stores and through its various wireless, cable and Internet services. Tennis Canada hopes that helps boost ticket sales and further increase profits, which will go into its four-year strategic development plan.

    Funding for grassroots level tennis had become scarce in the days without a title sponsor.

    "It was post 9-11, it was difficult economic times," said Allaster.

    Under its four-year strategic plan, Tennis Canada plans to:

    -Give more support to top-level players;

    -Increase support to provincial associations;

    -Build more tennis development centres;

    -Increase number and quality of coaches;

    -Increase presence in parks and communities.

    The deal with Rogers also calls for the start of a Rookie Tour, which will build on an existing Ontario Tennis Association program. The program's goal will be expand the network of kids playing competitive tennis and feed the most talented one into the high-level development programs.

    It will be expanded outside the province if it succeeds.

    "We said, 'Let's pilot this. Let's see if this is something that's really going to work,"' said Allaster. "This is that entry-level program for kids who just want to begin playing competitive tennis. We want to make it fun and motivating and hopefully find a few diamonds in the rough."

    The men's Rogers Cup runs from Aug. 8 to 14 at Montreal's Stade Uniprix. The women's event takes place at Toronto's Rexall Centre the following week.
     
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    poun cat, will you invite me there ?
     
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    Well let's see this where this will be leading to, how much money will get to juniors and how much to bureaucrats.

    For the time being, they've just shut down the best international junior tournament Canada has had, in Repentigny. Nautilus getting off the tennis business.
     
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    Marius, we're following pro. tennis, and pro tennis is all about money. It's the livelihood of every guy who plays ATP, and I'm glad to see Rogers is investing money in tennis & it will make my monthly cable bill a bit easier to pay. And Aykhan, sure I'll invite you. Where precisly are we going? I'm waiting for some posts re:Brazil Open ( under an assumed name of course) (has it even started yet?) as long as they're creative and entertaining.
     
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    Sure, I am glad Rogers is footing the bill. I just hope the Federations would put more money into junior tennis and less into their bureaucrats.
     
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    That's exactly it Marius. I almost posted, but my thoughts on Tennis Canada...I cannot even bear to start. But yes, things are worse than they have been in the past, funding for more grassroots and juniors has been promised for a LONG time....but then it get's funneled off for new stadiums etc.....apparently having homegrown canadian pros is not much of a priority. Not to mention..that compared to Western Canada you easterners are living in tennis paradise....we ain't got nothin out here...which is why we still often send our best juniors down to the US....no choice.

    I will be happy when the situation ACTUALLY changes significantly.

    We have had some fine talent and currently have some excellent world class juniors here in the west...but it's tough for them.
     
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    On a related note, Rogers also bought out our Toronto's famed Skydome. And by doing so, they renamed it the "Roger's Center."

    "Skydome/CN Tower" have been a cultural combination representing Toronto and Canada for a long time! Sad to have to change our schemas to "Roger's Center/CN Tower."

    However, great news that Rogers jumped on to TMS Toronto. I'm sure the tournament and tennis in Canada will get a nice boost by Canada's biggest communications conclomerate.

    Rogers is just buying everything in Canada aren't they??? In the future, I'm sure that I'll be forced to name my child, Roger. And hopefully the bright side of that is I will also be naming him after a great tennis player by the same first name with Pete Sampras' tennis credentials - and more. :mrgreen:
     
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    So... if the men's tournament will now be called 'Roger's Cup', doesn't that sort of give away the ending?

    I wonder if they'll still go through the motions of playing out the draw, or if they'll just give him the trophy right at the outset. I guess they'll play out the draw - what with money to be made, and all.

    Is he really that good that the tournament organizers feel that people will still come out and watch him even if they know he's going to win?

    By the way, Marius - where did you hear that the Repentigny Junior tournament was cancelled?
     
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    Tennis Canada still needs more $ for junior development since the best we can do on the men's tour is Dancevic and he is 160ish (nice game by the way but can't seem to breakthrough from the challengers). Nestor/Connell/Michibata were good but doubles specialists only.
    They need to have juniors travel and play more international tournaments to get exposure to better players.
     
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    Hey did anybody read Wertheim this week?? What was with that comment about Nestor???

    A woman asked if he could make the hall of fame and Wertheim said something like "let's not get carried away now." What's up with that? I know Nestor is a doubles specialist, but he's still a great player - Wertheim could have been a bit more respectful.
     
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    Yes, Nestor is a great player.
     
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    He's also a great singles player, but a chronic shoulder problem lead him to doubles. I still remember the DC match v. Rios when Nestor beat him, and Rios said he was embarrassed to have lost to him. It was this singles win which got Canada into the World Group.
     
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    But Rios was far from in form in that match, Nestor's best win I think was actually over Edberg in Davis cup when he was still a teen and Edberg was #1.

    Having said all that, Nestor is very very far from a great singles player(when talking hall of fame terms). Nor did he reach his physical potential, but not because of injuries(the most serious of which were relatively recent) Most of his problems in singles were purely mental. He had a severe choking problem and he tended to go into a defensive shell against big groundstrokers. He knew his groundstrokes were too erratic to defend against the power baseliners so he'd get very tentative. I always knew it was trouble when he'd start using a chip forhand from the baseline! When I used to go to practice session with him, he was a strange player sometimes because his concentration would wink in and out and sometimes he'd be be like a zombie out there.

    Still, he certainly fulfilled his potential in doubles and was a fine Canadian representative.
     
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    Nestor is known for not the brightest in the world. Any one who asks what tension their racquets were strung with and at what tension when they picked them up from the stringers tent is no genius.
     
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    Datacipher, are you pulling an Aykhan here? Have you trained with him? Or been to his practice sessions? Either one is pretty neat.

    I met him when he was training for a DC match here and we talked about the one point where his opponent hit a **** during their AO finals and I congratulated him on the AO title. It was quite breathtaking, he was very approachable.
     
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    **** = b-i-r-d
     
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    How about Aleksandra WOZNIAK being the 3rd in the world in juniors, playing in the AO junior semis, what a great accomplishement ... Don't think Canada has ever had someone in this position ...

    Girls Combined Ranking (07 Feb 2005)

    1 Viktoria AZARENKA BLR 1515
    2 Michaella KRAJICEK NED 1415
    3 Aleksandra WOZNIAK CAN 973.75
    4 Sesil KARATANTCHEVA BUL 937.5
    5 Monica NICULESCU ROM 895
    6 Yung-Jan CHAN TPE 887.5
    7 Marina ERAKOVIC NZL 875
    8 Olga GOVORTSOVA BLR 790
    9 Agnes SZAVAY HUN 762.5
    10 Dominika CIBULKOVA SVK 747.5

    She's training at the same facility (Jarry Park, where the Master's and Ladies Tier I tournaments are taking place), where I am playing. Working very hard with her father (her coach).
     
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    I like Niculescu. She's got a fiery temperament and a very unique slice forehand - both of which keep her opponents off balance. Gutsy girl.

    "For the time being, they've just shut down the best international junior tournament Canada has had, in Repentigny."
    Again, Marius - where did you hear that the Repentigny Junior tournament was cancelled?
     
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    Hehe when I visited Montreal at New Years, I went to Jarry Park's indoor facility - went to the ********* shop and brought a kick-butt Prince hat. A very nice place!
     
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    Datacipher, that's pretty swell.

    Has Lareau retired now? He was lucky to win a gold metal with Nestor at the Olympics! Albert Chang? Michael Chang's brother/coach??? Any chance we can hear the story behind that??? :mrgreen:
     
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    I heard it in December here at Jarry Park from some of the people playing, then I think again at the provincial federation. Now I do not find the event on the ITF schedule, but I do find it at the federation's site. I'd have to call them tomorrow to see what the latest update is:

    http://www.tennis.qc.ca/tournois_frame.html
    scroll to Aout (August)
    27 août - 3 septembre
    (samedi au samedi)
    Internationaux de tennis junior du Canada; Tournoi FIT 18 ans et moins Groupe 1 / Information : www.tenniscanada.com
    Parc Larochelle,
    Repentigny

    I find this site, which only mentions the 2004 event
    http://www.tennis-junior-repentigny.com/

    A search for Repentigny at the
    http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/tournaments/
    doen't give anything.

    Not shown at Tennis Canada site, but they don't display the full year schedule yet.
     
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    Yes, Lareau has retired. He's now from what I read one of the coaching pros at Tennis 13:
    http://www.tennis13.com/index.asp
    He's coaching now and then at Jarry Park some of the Canadian players such as Frederic Niemeyer, who's also based in Montreal.
     
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    Well they added this year 4 indoor courts, which bring it to 12 and has risen the level of play and excitement. You see now many more top juniors and seniors playing there, the Quebec junior team is having monthly training there too.

    Also, as you were here in winter time, you probably couldn't check on the new outdoor Court 1. Very nice. Many of the outdoor courts have been slightly moved wrt this year Masters.
     
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    Isn't what Canada really needs for tennis growth and development is a bonefide tennis star? Not a doubles specialist, a top ten singles player, a Grand Slam contender, a guy who won't go to another country once he gets a little sucess.
     
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    success breeds success, thus this would help majorly:)

    but I'd like first to see a better competitional framework, including the amateurs, such as the French have.

    and everything starts at the basics, at the grassroots. more people should play the game. thus make more of the municipal courts free in the summer time for them.
     
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    I agree. Many countries other than the US and Canada have better junior development programs starting at the grassroots, even at the regional and international levels. The USTA has made steps to improve (some) I can't speak for the CTA.
     
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    No, he wasn't M.Chang's brother....I'm sure he didn't get asked that much! ;-)

    He was one of our better players though, was from Calgary. He had some good success at satellites/challengers over the years.....many wins over good players at that level. His ranking I think was generally around 200...but I think he may have approached top 100 at times. He beat Nestor and Lareau in singles play in tournaments.....he once went 3 sets with Edberg at Canadian.....and I think he beat Michael Stich and Arnaud Boetch at a tournment once to make quarters before losing to Kafelnikov. He was a DC practice player.

    Anyways, once he just showed up at an open tourney to play mixed doubles with some young junior girl. Not exactly sure why....was rumoured he was friend of girl/girl's family. He was obviously a bit of a ringer. You're expecting to play top area amateurs/teaching pros/juniors/college players on summer break....not a guy with a 200 world ranking! But it was pleasant surprise. Played mixed doubles against him....lost....lol....actually probably could have beaten him if I had hammered the girl relentlessly, as she was surprsingly not very good....having said that, he hardly seemed tour intense himself....so he probably could have hammered us had he been so inclined. Seemed like a nice enough fellow off court....quiet.
     
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    DC and MH, thanks for the answers. Yeah I had a feeling that Albert Chang was not his brother, Carl is Michael's brother!
     
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    OK, I called the Quebec Federation, they made some inquiries and they told me that it's certain that the International Junior Tournament at Repentigny will take place this year (in August).

    Glad to hear about it and glad to hear I was wrong on this one.

    Something positive has happened since December and I do not necessarily want to know what that was, just the result, that a great tradition will continue.
     
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    Thanks, Marius.
     
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    Has anyone heard anything about the possibility of TTC being allowed in Canada? I called my cable provider when TTC first appeared, and Rogers said that the CRTC had not even heard of them at that point. Now that TTC is becoming established, there will be a channel for them to review...or is CRTC likely to protect TSN ...I don't see how TTC would interfere with Can content any more than the Golf Channel. Any news on this front???
     
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    Marius (or anyone else up on Canadian tennis, is Eva Marie Pelletier still trying to make it on the WTA? Saw her last year @ the AO make it through the qualies into the main draw and thought she had a very nice game. haven't heard much about her since.
     
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    She's now at 122, her best ever.
    Though she lost yesterday 61 61 to Zuluaga (1), in Bogota.
    Kind of slow progress, still.

    If you read French, this is about her latest title:
    http://www.rds.ca/tennis/chroniques/171597.html
     
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    Thanks Marius. Yes I grew up speaking French in my home. I can still read enough to get by. Hope to see Pelletier in more Grand Slams.
     
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    There is a corollary in no TTC availability in Canada -> I will be able to get my homework done! I registered almost no productivity during the Oz Open :p
     
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    I don't see that being good news for Canadian tennis at all. Let's see, we have NO junior development system (I get no help from TC whatsoever), we have NO good singles players ATP (who watches double?) and we are nearly the laughing stock of world tennis. Someone once asked me "where are you from' at an ITF tournament after watching me practice. When I said Canada, the person replied "oh, sorry!"

    Tennis Canada is sad.
     
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    This has got to be the year for Canadian tennis...no NHL to distract us, probably well into 2006. In fact I've noticed the kids on the street wielding tennis racquets and trying to serve the puck over the top of the net. Oh Canada!
     
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    Great news for the tennis in Quebec and Canada:

     
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    Have any of you ever been to the Repentigny tournament? I went one year, and I saw a young greek player named Eleni Danilidou. (wonder whatever happened to her?? )
    and can someone tell me who is commentating on RDS now? Is it still Yvan moron and Helene Pelletier?
     
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    Guess you haven't watched tennis in while, if you don't know about Eleni:
    http://www.wtatour.com/players/playerprofiles/playerbio.asp?PlayerID=40313

    And yes, Yvan and Helene are still there, fortunately replaced from time to time by Sebastien Lareau, the former world #4 in doubles, the Sydney Olympics champion in doubles (with Daniel Nestor.)
    http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/Titles/default.asp?playernumber=L226

    And heeeree's ........... Ponton:
    http://www.rds.ca/tennis/chroniques/174208.html
     
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    Qualifiers in Indian Wells:
    F. Dancevic b. Tsonga 61 62 v. good result, lots of noise about the
    French juniors.
    Dancevic needs to beat G. Lapentti to get into the main draw (I think he can do it).

    Tsonga: Finished 2003 as No. 2 junior in world...Also reached SF at Wimbledon in 2003
    (l. to Mergea)...Won US Open junior title (d. Baghdatis)...

    Dancevic was never this high in juniors, but he's better now in seniors than Tsonga.

    I met today F. Niemeyer at Jarry, talked to him, he's preparing for
    Europe (he was being coached today by Lareau)

    Pelletier lost 1st round in women's Q to Beygelzimer 6-4 in the 3rd).
    Drake lost in 2nd, to Diaz-Oliva.
    Kirilenko top seed in qualies, v. tough tournament.
     
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    Hey TSNers, they are airing Masters Cup Uncovered with Roger Federer this monday at 4 pm. (In addition to Indian Wells actions beforehand, sweeeeeet)
     
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    Yes, this is the full program:
    http://www.tsn.ca/tennis/tv_schedule.asp?sport=TENNIS
     
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    Actually, I was joking about Danilidou. I know she`s been playing on the WTA tour and had some pretty good wins, though dissapeared recently(injuries??)

    Thannks for the other info though. I have a hard time picturing Lareau commentating. Is he any good??
     
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    I think so.
     
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    Couldn't. Lost 6-4 6-2 to Lapentti (who's 115).
     
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    And the bad news is Frank lost to Lapentti 4-6 2-6
     
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