Got an X-2! Now I have a question.

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by gordo, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. gordo

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    First time, long time.

    I just got my X-2 and got it put together and I just noticed that there are two different scales on the pull down arm. What are these, I don't see a label anywhere. Thanks.
     
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  2. Zhou

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    1) Pounds
    2) Kilos
     
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  3. gordo

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    Which is pounds?
     
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  4. Zhou

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    The one that goes by increments of 5.
    I believe it is the one on top. It is not that hard to tell. The one that is reading like 60 when the other reads only 20 something.
     
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  5. Il Mostro

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    There are 2.2046 pounds per kilo -- you should be able to determine which is which with this info.
     
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  6. gordo

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    Got it, thanks all.
     
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  7. ambro

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    I don't think it's pounds and kilos. I'm almost positive that the larger number is pounds with the entire weight, and the smaller scale is pounds with only the bottom quarter of the weight on the arm to pull tension, used when stringing badminton racquets. I believe that is what it was for my X-6 FC, which should have the same lever arm. I may be wrong though, I never used the smaller scale, but I think I remember something about the smaller scale being used for badminton with the smaller section of the weight.
     
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    Hmm. I always thought it was pounds and Kilos because it almost matched like that. It is possible that it was meant for badminton rackets using pounds still.
     
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  9. lionel_101

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    I looked at my x-2 and saw 2 different scales and each scale had 2 differnet markings on them.

    I believe that .......

    The main scale that is right on top of the bar is for pounds and has 2 markings. It goes from 20 to 90 lbs with both weights on and from 8 to 26 lbs with just the smaller weight on.

    The other scale (towards the right handside) is for kilos and it has 2 markings on it too. It goes from 10 to 41 kilos woth both weights on and from 4 to 12 kilos with just the small weight on.
     
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    Doesn't it just explain this in the instructions? Where's the Gamma guy that pops up here?
     
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    I think lionel_101 is correct. I don't have my machine to look at anymore, but his answer seems correct. I just remembered something about the smaller weight alone being for badminton, but don't remember exactly what the scales looked like, as I only ever strung tennis racquets.
     
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  12. lionel_101

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    The Gamma X-2 manual is very very poor. It tells you how to assemble it, but nothing on the weight scales and why it has pounds and kilo settings. The pictures are very poor as are the directions on stringing a racquet. The other manual you usually get with the X-2, USRSA getting started manual, was a lot more useful.
     
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  13. Bud

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    Not correct :)
     
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  14. Bud

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    This is correct!
     
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  15. Bud

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    There is also a pull out drawer on the end of the X-2 for your accessories. It's on the end of the machine that the weight is attached to.
     
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    I think this is a really nice touch on Gamma's part, especially since they include it on the basic machines. There is also a cutting surface on some of their machines that I checked out.
     
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  17. Bud

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    It's a substantial drawer, too. It extends almost the length of the machine.
     
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  18. lionel_101

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    What timing....

    I was taking my X-2 apart today, to see how it was put together and found a latch on the bottom of the right side. When I pressed it, out pops the hidden drawer.

    Instead of tools, I am going to hide some money there, like those fake comsumer cans they make. :)
     
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  19. lionel_101

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    Hey Bud,

    Do you happen to know what the plastic thing above the lettering (GER) is for? Is is my X-2 the only one that has it. I don't see it on any of the pictures of X-2s on vendor sites.

    I removed the small plastic face plate on it and 2 allen head bolts and nuts are behind it. If you loosen them, the plastic thing can slide along the entire front of the stringer. I haven't a clue as to what it was intnded to be used as.

    Thanks
     
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  20. Bud

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    That, supposedly, is a small cutting 'table' on which to cut your string :roll:

    I can't see it being useful for such cutting activity... but that's the general consensus.
     
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  21. Bud

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    Just hope they don't steal the stringer :oops:
     
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  22. lionel_101

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    Thanks Bud......

    I would never have guess it was a cutting board. I will use a steak knife now, instead of diagonal pliers to snip my strings. :lol:

    I wonder how they thought it would cut anything. Maybe I could come up with something and sell it as an add-on feature for all the Gamma X serries stringers.

    That would be funny if some one stole my stringer and my hidden stash or even more of a shock. :shock:
     
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  23. Gamma Tech

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    Bud & Lionel_101 are both correct.

    if you are learning to string it is best to use the USRSA "Getting Started Guide". I know the X-2 manual isn't the best but you have high expectation of what it is suppose to be for, the manual is for machine assemble & parts, if you buy a stove do the instructions teach you how to cook or come with a cook book?

    bret
     
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  24. In)SpiRe

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    Hey guys, just wondering. When you want to set the tension, the bottom of the weight should be on the selected tension, correct? Or is it the other way around?
     
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  25. Bud

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    Correct...
     
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  26. lionel_101

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    No problem Gamma Tech with the help of others here, we sort of figured out most of the X-2 features. Just that the owner's manual could have explain the features in more detail when being created.

    BTW, maybe you can explain what the little plastic thing with 2 bolts and nuts that can be loosen to allow it to slide along the front of the stringer was design to do?

    Also can the set screw that holds the turntable shaft to the base be used as a braking device to hold the turntable in place when doing certain racquets?

    Thanks for any information.

    PS... I really like my X-2 and have a great time stringing with it. :)
     
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  27. Gamma Tech

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    I agree, it is hard keeping up with all the same changes on all the manuals, answering customers questions, repairing, etc., but it is on my list of things to improve.

    it is a small cutting board for the string. since the machine comes with a utility knife only.

    you can try but I doubt it is going to do much, it main purpose is to add or remove resistant to the rotation of the TT.

    bret
     
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  28. lionel_101

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    Thanks Brett (Gamma Tech) you are doing a fine job answering our questions.

    Hey Bud...you were right in that it was a small cutting board. I was wondering why they included the small knife with the stringing tools.

    Next time I get hungry while stringing, I can use it to make me a sandwich :lol:
     
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  29. meowmix

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    Hey, sorry to hijack this thread, but...

    I was just looking at pictures, and from what I can see, the base of the machine (as in attaches to table) is, skimpy. It also seems that the base of the machine is relatively skinny, and it appears (from pics) that the machine would slide quite a bit. Is there anything to worry about, since I get a feeling that since nobody's complaining, the base is fine...
     
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  30. Il Mostro

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    This is an entry level machine. Even so, the build quality is as good or better than other machines at the same price point. Nothing skimpy about it. Also, no other company sweats the little stuff like the tool compartment and cutting board like Gamma does. And their support is top notch. BTW, I do not own a Gamma -- I am just very impressed by the way they do things -- so this is not a case of an owner blowing his own horn.
     
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  31. Bud

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    It's definitely not skimpy... the machine is quite heavy. The only time I notice sliding is when pulling knots... and then it just moves a bit. This is on a glass coffee table. The heavy duty stand for the X-6 also fits the X-2 if it bothers you.
     
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