Grand Prix winners.

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  1. llgc8080

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    Does anyone has the info of the Grand Prix winners (and final positions), played along the 70's & 80's? It would be very helpful to me.
    Thank you. :)
     
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  2. Moose Malloy

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    I have this info for some years. Will have to dig it up.
     
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    Thank you Moose, I'll wait.
     
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    overall grand prix winners

    here's list for the 1970s

    1970 richey
    1971 smith
    1972 nastase
    1973 nastase
    1974 vilas
    1975 vilas
    1976 ramirez
    1977 vilas
    1978 connors
    1979 mcenroe


    The grand prix rewarded playing as many events as possible. hence some of the winners. Borg never played many grand prix events, except in 1973.

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  5. Moose Malloy

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    thanks for posting that jeffrey.

    do you know who the top 5 were in '75 & '77?

    and do you have the winners from 1980-1989?

    thanks
     
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  6. Moose Malloy

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    according to the itf website, these were the seedings for the masters from '82-'84(the Grand Prix rankings were used for seedings at this event)
    I don't know if the standings changed after the masters was over.
    Interesting that Wilander finished '83 #1 in the race.

    1984

    1. McEnroe
    2. Connors
    3. Lendl
    4. Wilander

    1983

    1. Wilander
    2. Lendl
    3. McEnroe
    4. Connors

    1982

    1. Connors
    2. Vilas
    3. Lendl
    4. McEnroe
     
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    Thank you Moose and jeffrey!
     
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  8. Moose Malloy

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    Jeffrey, do you know if all events(WCT, ATP) gave Grand Prix points in the 70s/80s?

    Here were the rankings for 1981, guess this shows how little Borg played in his final year on tour:

    1. Lendl
    2. McEnroe
    3. Connors
    4. Clerc
    5. Vilas
    6. Borg
     
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    moose,

    regular WCT events counted towards the Grand prix from 1978-81.
    Otherwise it was a separate circuit approved by the ATP, except in 1982.

    top 5 finishes in grand prix
    1975 1977
    vilas vilas
    orantes borg
    borg gottfried
    ashe orantes
    nastase cibbs



    jeffrey
     
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    Top 10 1970-89 Grand Prix positions

    1970
    1. Richey
    2. Ashe
    3. Rosewall
    4. Laver
    5. Smith
    6. Franulovic
    7. Newcombe
    8. Kodes
    9. Roche
    10. Carmichael
    11. Goven
    12. Nastase
    13. Crealy
    14. Ruffels
    15. Graebner
    16. Ralston
    17. Fillol
    18. Tiriac
    19. Drysdale
    20. Emerson

    1971
    1. Smith
    2. Nastase
    3. Franulovic
    4. Kodes
    5. Richey
    6. Newcombe
    7. Barthes
    8. Rosewall
    9. Graebner
    10. Gorman
    11. Froehling
    12. Okker
    13. Taylor
    14. Riessen
    15. Ashe
    16. Fillol
    17. Laver
    18. Goven
    19. Gimeno
    20. Lutz

    1972
    1. Nastase
    2. Smith
    3. Orantes
    4. Kodes
    5. Gimeno
    6. Hewitt
    7. Connors
    8. Gorman
    9. Pattison
    10. Proisy

    1973
    1. Nastase
    2. Newcombe
    3. Okker
    4. Connors
    5. Orantes
    6. Kodes
    7. Smith
    8. Gorman
    9. Borg
    10. Ashe

    1974
    1. Vilas
    2. Connors
    3. Orantes
    4. Borg
    5. Ramirez
    6. Nastase
    7. Parun
    8. Solomon
    9. Ashe
    10. Smith

    1975
    1. Vilas
    2. Orantes
    3. Borg
    4. Ashe
    5. Nastase
    6. Connors
    7. Ramirez
    8. Panatta
    9. Solomon
    10. Dibbs

    1976
    1. Ramirez
    2. Orantes
    3. Connors
    4. Dibbs
    5. Solomon
    6. Vilas
    7. Tanner
    8. Fibak
    9. Gottfried
    10. Borg

    1977
    1. Vilas
    2. Gottfried
    3. Borg
    4. Orantes
    5. Dibbs
    6. Tanner
    7. Ramirez
    8. Connors
    9. Gerulaitus
    10. Solomon

    1978
    1. Connors
    2. Borg
    3. Dibbs
    4. Ramirez
    5. Solomon
    6. McEnroe
    7. Vilas
    8. Gottfried
    9. Barazzutti
    10. Ashe

    1979
    1. McEnroe
    2. Borg
    3. Connors
    4. Vilas
    5. Gerulaitus
    6. Tanner
    7. Higueras
    8. Solomon
    9. Dibbs
    10. Pecci

    1980
    1. McEnroe
    2. Lendl
    3. Connors
    4. Borg
    5. G Mayer
    6. Solomon
    7. Vilas
    8. Clerc
    9. Teltscher
    10. Teacher

    1981
    1. Lendl
    2. McEnroe
    3. Connors
    4. Clerc
    5. Vilas
    6. Borg
    7. Tanner
    8. Teltscher
    9. Gerulaitus
    10. Noah

    1982
    1. Connors
    2. Vilas
    3. Lendl
    4. McEnroe
    5. Wilander
    6. Gerulaitus
    7. Higueras
    8. Kriek
    9. Gomez
    10. Denton

    1983
    1. Wilander
    2. Lendl
    3. McEnroe
    4. Connors
    5. Noah
    6. Arias
    7. Higueras
    8. Gomez
    9. Clerc
    10. Teltscher

    1984
    1. McEnroe
    2. Connors
    3. Lendl
    4. Wilander
    5. Gomez
    6. Nystrom
    7. Sundstrom
    8. Teltscher
    9. Jarryd
    10. Smid

    1985
    1. Lendl
    2. McEnroe
    3. Wilander
    4. Edberg
    5. Becker
    6. Connors
    7. Noah
    8. Jarryd
    9. Kriek
    10. Nystrom

    1986
    1. Lendl
    2. Becker
    3. Edberg
    4. Nystrom
    5. Noah
    6. Wilander
    7. Leconte
    8. Gomez
    9. Connors
    10. Mecir

    1987
    1. Lendl
    2. Edberg
    3. Wilander
    4. Mecir
    5. Becker
    6. Connors
    7. Cash
    8. Gilbert
    9. Mayotte
    10. Gomez

    1988
    1. Wilander
    2. Becker
    3. Edberg
    4. Agassi
    5. Lendl
    6. Leconte
    7. Connors
    8. Mayotte
    9. Hlasek
    10. K Carlsson

    1989 (last year)
    1. Lendl
    2. Becker
    3. Edberg
    4. Gilbert
    5. McEnroe
    6. Chang
    7. Agassi
    8. Krickstein
    9. Mancini
    10. Berger
     
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    Great info Andrew!! Thank you a lot!!
     
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  12. llgc8080

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    Double posted
     
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    Andrew, thanks for your posts, I've been asking these questions here for years, its great to get the answers.

    Do you know if those standings you listed were updated after the Grand Prix Masters, or are they just the top finishers before the event was played? Because I have the 1982 Masters final on tape, & the commentators mention the top 8 qualifiers, which correspond with what you posted for that year, but they don't update the standings after the event. I imagine Lendl would pass Vilas if they did, do you know if the Masters offered any Grand Prix points? Because I also have matches from the '89 Masters final on tape, & it appears as though they do update the standings after the event(Edberg got 850 pts for winning it)

    I have several matches from the '89 Masters on tape, & they do a points breakdown for players that includes Grand Prix points earned at the Dallas WCT event in '89. Did Dallas give Grand Prix points in other years in the '80s?
     
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  14. llgc8080

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    The Grand Prix Masters? Can you give more info about this please? Thank you.
     
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  15. Moose Malloy

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    The Grand Prix Masters was the name of the Masters Cup from '70 to '89. The Grand Prix points(similar to race points today, I think) they earned throughout the year determined the field for the Masters. here is the event history:

    http://www.masters-cup.com/3/history/masters.asp
     
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  16. llgc8080

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    Thanks moose! I think was another tournament.
     
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    Good questions. Firstly I dont know if the early Masters tournament did have points but I have to further look into that. I think that the points were added in the late-eighties.

    WCT events after 1985 were included in the Grand Prix Calendar. In 1985 these were the WCT Finals in Dallas, the Tournament of Champions in Forest Hills and two WCT-run Super Series events in Atlanta and Houston. The WCT tour effectively ended in that year.

    It is amazing how the first 20 years of open tennis really was a mess and the relative stability of the ATP Tour now is so different to the early 1970's.
     
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    Who was second in 77? Borg or Gottfried? jeffrey says one, Andrew another.
     
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    I have Gottfried second with 1548 points compared to Borg at third with 1210 points. Vilas was the leader with 2047 points, while Connors just scraped in with 722 points at No. 8 but then went on to defeat Borg in the Masters final that year.
     
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    Thank you Andrew, like usually!
     
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    thanxs Andrew!
     
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    Thanks for data, very interesting post.

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    Can you get the info about it Andrew?
    Thanks.
     
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    After being parto of the GP from 1978 to 1981 ( before, there were 2 separate circuits), WCT´s boss Lamar Hunt decided to regain the " 2 different tours" formula, though WCT slided downwords with each passing day.By the mid 80´s, they only had 3-4 exclusive events and their much coveted Dallas Finals which in fact was not the end of a specific circuit like it had been in the 70´s and early 80´s.
     
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    Does anyone have the grand prix standings for each year with the number of points that each player earned for that particular year?

    I was partcularly interested in 1980. I have the points of the top 50 for that year but was wondering if anyone has the points for those outside the top 50.
     
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    Great lists, I specially like 1975 and 1977.1979/1981 are very good, too
     
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    I had almost completely forgotten about Zeljko Franulovic, but he was a top player for a while. Seems he had an injury which hampered his career.
     
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    Oh Zeljko¡¡¡ I saw him live a few times.Great talent and great shotmaking abilities.He lost to Kodes but..who didn´t at that time? ( on clay)
     
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