Graphene Speed Pro top bumper question

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  1. smuzzlim4

    smuzzlim4 New User

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    I just received my racquets and noticed that the plastic at the top of the racquet is like being tweeked outwards. Is this something I should worry about, or is it expected? Thanks!

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  2. Francis27

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    Yes it is normal it happens alot to head racquets
     
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  3. neil1b

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    All of mine do the same thing. Poor design.
     
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  4. mrmo1115

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    Neil1b, do you mind posting pictures of your frames? It happened to me today but the piece with the tab thats supposed to be under the other piece was actually on top and I ended up bringing it to a store where they cut the piece off with the tab without asking me ...

    :(

    So I'm going to have to get a new grommet set for one of my frames.
     
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  5. Broly4

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    Such low quality materials, shame on head
     
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  6. dr325i

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    Same thing here, received the stick strung from TW, and...see the picture below. They are sending the replacement strings, though, I am not sure if the grommet would be possible to fix. Terrible design, not sure why they went this way...

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  7. mrmo1115

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    You too? Theres no way to dip that tabbed piece underneath? And what do you mean by replacement strings?
     
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  8. Francis27

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    What if you put some super glue? And this also happened to my IG Instinct.
     
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  9. mrmo1115

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    You couldn't do what I just suggested? Take a tool to push the tabbed part underneath the adjoining part? The OP looks like it's been done.
     
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  10. etd

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    Both my Head Graphene Speed MP and Graphene Speed Pro demos had the same problem, both at the top and the bottom of the racquets. It seems that the grommet strips can't handle the stress at the double string holes.
     
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  11. mrmo1115

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    Etd is it completely sticking out like dr325i?
     
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  12. etd

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    Yes, completely sticking out
     
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  13. brownbearfalling

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    Looks like very poor design. Head should place that gap where the strings will hold it down. Babolat grommets have the same issue sometimes.

    If it really bothers you, it looks like it wouldn't hurt to cut it off. From what I can see in the picture it falls between mains. There is only one way to string mains so the string won't ever bridge that gap. Although cutting off that piece could be aesthetically unpleasant and also create a sharp end.
     
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  14. dr325i

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    Nope, it is "stretched" too much and it pops right out.
    It does not bother me that it is sticking out, I am pissed because it is a poor design and barely protecting strings inside the hoop. That is why TW sent me a new set of strings - if these break early due to this flaw.
    Apparently, they do not have the replacement grommets available, yet.
     
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  15. mrmo1115

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    That is what a person at a pro shop did without asking me and I'm extremely perturbed at how it looks. I'd rather have it sticking out than cut off. I am waiting for tomorrow to call Head and see if they could in anyway send me a new grommet set although TW says head hasn't even started producing them.
     
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  16. Broly4

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    Extremely perturbed are pretty strong words, especially since it doesn't affect playability, but yeah it sucks
     
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  17. Stringers

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    All of the Head frames in the new line have done this. Just poorly designed. Doesn't effect playability, but it is frustrating.
     
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  18. Nostradamus

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    Yea, if it bothers you, Get a new Grommet and replace it. that will help. but otherwise NO difference in play.

    and Does these new GRAPHENE work well ? Does it really have more power and more control ? Novak did win today.
     
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  19. Stringers

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    Personally, not crazy about the Speeds. The Instinct tho, is a very solid frame in my opinion.
     
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  20. Nostradamus

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    Is instincts have more power now with this new Graphene system ?
     
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  21. Stringers

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    Yup. Don't believe in the "graphene" idea, but there is more mass in the head to give some additional pop.
     
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  22. Nostradamus

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    Not sure about that. if Novak really was knocking down fences with the new grapheme racket then something must be up. and Novak did say in press conference that he really did switch to these.
     
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  23. Stringers

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    K. If I was sponsored by Head, I'd say I was playing with their new frames too... but, if I'm a top 5 player in the world I'm not switching my frame every year or two.
     
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    I have a bridge that is conveniently located in Brooklyn that is for sale. Do you have any interest purchasing it from me? I will give a great deal!!!!
     
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  25. dr325i

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    WHy don't you get the grommet and then I will get it from you???
     
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  26. dr325i

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    Fedace may have changed the nick name, but man...every of his post is just...the same
     
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  27. Rabbit

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    exact same thing happened to me stringing two last night. got to the last cross and noticed the damn bumper guard was out of track. i had to hold it in place and tension. it still looks askew, poor design and weak construction imo
     
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  28. anyhizzle

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    I received a pre-strung racket from TW and found out that you need to string the last few holes differently so that it overlaps the tab and will obviously keep the tab down.

    How to:
    After tensioning the 6th main, skip a hole and string and tension the 8th main, then string and tension the 7th main, then string and tension the 9th main.

    I'm not sure if this is how Head intended for this racket to be strung, but it works at keeping the grommet in place. I wish Head would just provide either a one piece grommet and eliminate the tab.
     
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  29. zapvor

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    yea these new graphenes are a pain in the butt. HEAD come on!!!!!!!
     
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  30. Oz_Rocket

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    I haven't had any problems with mine, but did ask Head for their stringing instruction which haven't been put up on the web yet. They do acknowledge that the grommet may lift so here is their advice for the mains:

    "Start at the top with the center holes L34 + R34. For the left and the right side of the main strings clamp 3,25m (10,75ft) each at hole L34 + R34 respectively. Tighten 2 main strings left, two main strings right and so on. Tie off at holes L7 + R7. For best results, while tensioning the outer main strings, ensure that the grommet barrels are not lifted out of position. If barrels lift, then please push these back into position before continuing."
     
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  31. Racquet Masetro

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    Try seating the grommet with a blunt awl before putting the string through, I've done over 50 new racquets (G Speeds, G Instincts etc) and that has not been an issue.

    Good luck.
     
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  32. Anton

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    I got dr325i's racket and simply cut that little plastic piece off, took whole 20 seconds - don't know what the big deal is.
     
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  33. brownbearfalling

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    Can any one confirm that the Ig speed 18x20 will fit in the graphene speed pro? If they do, that would be your best option since the Ig speed grommets have a gap in the middle.
     
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  34. Anton

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    :confused:

    Is this some sort of dJoke?
     
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  35. BigT

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    This new stick would be # 1 on my demo list, but the issue you write about is enough to take my interest out.
     
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  36. Anton

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    It's not an issue, cut the little plastic piece off if it pops up and you are done
     
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  37. Oz_Rocket

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    It isn't a problem on mine (yet) and I certainly wouldn't deny yourself the chance to demo it just because of a possible bumper problem. The frame isn't perfect but it does so many things very well that I'd suggest you rule it out for other reasons and have no regrets.
     
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  38. Virtua Tennis

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    That happened cause you didn't push the grommet in and hold it down while stringing.
     
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  39. remarks

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    I own another tennis shop. As others have said, you have to use a different weave to cover the gaps in the grommet strip. At both the head and the tail (4 gaps).

    I think Head did screw up. Grommet strips are too thin and do not have enough overlap.
     
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  40. Virtua Tennis

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    I've done over 50 of these racquets since release and didn't have one problem (in fact I had to fix several stringers mistakes) cause I took the time to hold down the bumper guard down and also make sure they were fully pushed in, in the first place. No need to do anything special just do your regular two piece and string it like your layering it so you don't get any weird cross overs later.

    The only thing I can say is that if you don't string it perfect the first time it leaves a string impression and makes it difficult for the next stringer or stringing cause the grommet holes has an imprint of the string and the string will follow that imprint.
     
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  41. Oz_Rocket

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    I've just strung mine for the second time (first time with Sonic Pro Edge but alas it is raining so have to wait to test it!). A couple of observations from a relatively newbie stringer so apologies if the following is obvious.

    Mine was factory strung so it was easy enough to follow the previous job but I did get the stringing instructions sent to me from Head. For the mains at the top near where the grommet tab might poke out I was just very careful when tensioning the strings to hold it in place and make sure it hadn't moved.

    For the bottom shared holes 8 & 9 there are a higher and lower notch for the strings so it is worth while looking at them carefully and planning which ones you will use for the mains and which for the crosses. That way when bottom holes 7, 8 & 9 are strung they don't cross over each other between holes. Not too sure how much real world difference it makes but I figure a little bit of extra effort to make it neater is worth it. First time I strung it I did one side neatly but the other I ended up have to run one of the crosses diagonally over a main.

    Also the first time I used the recommended string lengths from Head (6.5m mains, 5.5m crosses) I end up with barely enough to get in the tensioner and finish the job for both. I don't think I used to much slack for starting the crosses. So the second time I added an extra 20cm and it was fine.
     
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