great Sampras backhand here

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  1. laurie

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    This is a really lovely shot, what Frew McMillian calls a Rosewall backhand. It happens around 1 minute 20 seconds in to this 5 minute 15 second clip

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWydwgtfh8A&NR=1

    It's from the 1994 ATP final between Sampras and Becker.
     
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  2. grafrules

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    It was a slice backhand passing shot which is a very rare shot to be successful on. The reason I think he called it a Rosewall backhand is that is a backhand Rosewall was famous for, passing guys at the net with a slice backhand repeatedly which is pretty much unheard of, and there Sampras pulled off that same rare shot beautifully.
     
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  3. trebor

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    Not a slice though

    Yes, a great pass, but not a slice backhand in this case. Sampras flicked it like Federer often does. Thanks for the post Laurie - helps me not miss Pete so badly to see clips like these.
     
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    Swet shot.
    This has got me thinking I should start a new thread and post a clip of the one great volley that Roddick hit this year (just kidding - not trying to start a Sampras did have a great backhand debate)
     
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  5. Moose Malloy

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    I think its a bit of a myth that Rosewall's backhand was a slice. it looks like a flat drive to me(have a few of his matches), sort of hard to classify, except its pretty sweet. When he was passing guys he was driving the ball, not just dinking slices by them.

    John McEnroe seems to constantly perpetuate this in his commentary("Rosewall never came over a backhand in his career, etc")
     
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  6. laurie

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    Hi guys, I'm in Madrid for the WTA finals, I have a ticket for todays final between Henin and Sharapova! Should be a great match and experience, plus the doubles final. On Friday I met up and had a chat with Svetlana Kuznetsova, she is so nice, as you may know I do a website for her.

    Now, I thought you would like to see this game, where Sampras does the exact same shot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Ui0oi_03s

    Just watch Sampras´reaction after the shot, it's the last point in the game. This reaction has stayed in my memory ever since I watched this match on Eurosport in August 1999.

    He's done a few times as well, in 2001 Indian Wells against Rafter, David Mercer called it a shot of genius, and Rafter stood at the net and looked at Pete and knodded his head in approval - quite an acknowledgment. And in 2001 Wimbledon he did it against Federer in the 4th set, it was so good Federer was almost sprawling at the net. And also in 1994 Italian Open final against Becker, Becker was so mad Sampras did that shot with Becker at the net, he actually threw his racquet down and started screaming in German. The dip of the ball and the angle just seems to dumbfound opponents.

    Enjoy this particular special from 1999, now Í'm off to Recinto Ferial Casa de Campo for the final.

    Hasta luego!
     
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    I hope you enjoyed the womens final in person. On television it was specatacular. Great tennis and determination from both women.

    Thanks for sharing your memories on the Sampras backhand too.
     
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  8. quest01

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    I watched that video and that was a nice shot by Sampras, it was Federer like.
     
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    Could we please have a Sampras or Federer thread without bringing the other up just once. ;)

    Yes that was an awesome backhand by Sampras. Maybe it is easiest to underestimate his backhand since unfortunately that is the shot that went down the most in the very final years of his career IMO.
     
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  10. HappyChappy

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    rosewall never EVER came over his backhand.

    there was ALWAYS an element of slice in his shots.

    You could even hear it.

    halfway through this video rosewall hits a VERY hard passing shot, it is quite clearly sliced.

    http://www.ina.fr/archivespourtous/index.php?vue=notice&id_notice=I00006536


    What you're saying is the equivelant of saying that sampras's forehand was flat, it wasn't, it just had less topspin than is usual, the reverse applies to rosewall, you're post is a noob mistake.
     
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  11. Moose Malloy

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    well, you sort of make my point, that not all slices are the same(the fact that you said 'element of slice' doesn't exactly make it sound like its a traditional slice)
    When I heard 'Rosewall never came over his backhand' from McEnroe, I was picturing a Graf like slice used for primarily defensive purposes, not Rosewall hitting some pretty hard passing shots. I think most think of 'slice' as meaning defensive. It actually sounded a little demeaning the way Mac put it. Plus from what I've seen, pretty much no one except Laver came over the backhand consistently pre Borg, so its not like Rosewall was considered some freak at the time for the way he hit his backhand.

    FYI, I have 5 complete Rosewall matches on tape/dvd, have you seen much of him other than clips on the internet? like an entire match?

    Been playing/watching the game for over 20 years. Yeah, I'm a noob.
     
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  12. HappyChappy

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    1)Ivan lendl was hitting these types of shots not so long ago, a good match to see this is his uso final against Becker.
    2)Emerson came over his backhand
    3)Santana came over his backhand
     
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  13. laurie

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    Thanks, back in London now. I had a wonderful time yesterday, I knew it would be a great match and it was even better than I'd hoped. Plus the doubles final was very good with Black/Huber beating Sugiyama/Srebotnik. The atmosphere was amazing and I met a couple of girls from the fans forum who are from Madrid. Plus meeting Svetlana was the icing on the cake.

    Damn cold in London though! It was 20 degrees in Madrid.
     
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    happy child you are actually a noob cuz you are a new user while Moose Malloy is Hall of Famer .... just saying
     
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  15. HappyChappy

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    who is this happy child?

    Moose Molloy is a tennis newb.
     
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