Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by Satsuma Illini, Jun 19, 2012.
It's true. And Vilas played the same game in the Masters final against Nastase in Australia.
Someone said Moya......he doesn't have a 1-hander....How about Corretja?
True that. There is that strange and rare distinction of being a great "all-court" player, that would include those who had both great baseline skills and great volleying abilities.
This is where you find a name appearing on both lists of great baeliners and great volleyers.
Forgot about Corretja, great backhand for sure, i would put him in top 5 in this tread.
I think what helped a lot of the players in volleying was they most of them played doubles regularly. The top players generally don't do that nowadays so they can rest for singles.
A guy like Rosewall who is in my opinion a natural baseliner played doubles with Lew Hoad and developed a fantastic volley.
Funny that no one has mentioned Wawrinka. I'd take his backhand over Federer's any day.
However, I do believe Guga takes the prize in this category. As far as pure baseliner 1-handed backhands go, his was/is the best ever.
Loved both Clerc and Gomez! Like so many players with big forehands Gomez's backhand was underated. I always thought Gomez could've developed a better game for grass. And I enjoyed watching him at the US Open.
Wrong thread! This thread is about who is the greatest baseliner in the open era with a 1hb, not who has the best 1hb in the open era. If that was the question, then the answer is Rod Laver.
Re: Kuerten, if you are limiting your opinion to clay, he probably was the greatest baseliner in the open era with a 1hb, on clay. But, I don't think there's much argument that he wasn't as great as Federer on hard or grass. It could very well have been that his degenerating hip limited him more on less forgiving surfaces. That we don't know unless he has discussed that possibility. But, his results on hard and grass were not in the same league as his clay court results.
Ooops. I misunderstood the question.
Now that I understand it better, I'd have to go w/ Lendl, only because I consider Federer & Sampras as 'All Court' players. Guga *could* have been the best, but I'm guessing his hip injury limited what he could do in US/Aussie Opens.
I would agree that Sampras was an all courter. But, IMO, Federer is as much a baseliner as anyone. He plays almost exclusively from the baseline, even moreso than Lendl, and his baseline game is much better than his net game, maybe moreso than Lendl in that respect too.
I guess you are talking about the Federer of the last few years. I remember the Federer of the early-mid 2000s, when he would hit that short slice backhand, then finish at the net, or rip a forehand "inside-in", then put the easy volley away.
Federer still hits that shot with good effectiveness against some. It doesn't work that well against Nadal or Djokovic. Nadal either belts it down the line with his forehand or hits a heavy topspin forehand sharp crosscourt to the Federer's backhand.
nadal just rips it apart tbh. Federer only rarely uses it vs him in the past 2-3 years ..
federer has way more success with it vs djoker , see for example their FO meeting last year. djoker handles it ok I suppose , but when fed's slice is correctly working, it still causes him some problems ...
My top ten of onehanded backhand players:
or Murray. He pretty much owns Murray in bh to bh exchanges. See 2010 Aus Open. It's not the shot, it's the game style. Nadal picks on everyone's backhand not just 1 handers. He wins against 2 handers just as easily as 1 handers. Nadal is just a bad match up for Fed for many reasons not because of Fed's backhand
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