Greatest Serves of All Time

Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by NonP, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. Shaolin

    Shaolin Legend

    Feb 11, 2004
    Have you seen Arthurs play? I think he deserves to be in the top 10 of all servers. His wicked lefty serve made pros look like 3.5s out there trying to return it. If the rest of his game was better more people would know who he is.
  2. CopolyX

    CopolyX Semi-Pro

    Nov 9, 2014
    Pelham NH
    Oh to Ivansevic...Nice Tennis Bed Side Story for those of with Tennis on the mind and can't sleep..

    Once upon a time, in the kingdom of Croatia, the great magician Merlinic was casting a spell to make the world's greatest tennis player.

    Make him tall, make him strong.

    Make him ace against everyone.

    Give him courage and nerves of ice.

    Give him the fastest of second serves.

    Let him be ruthless, he won't be an emo.

    All the world shall know him as: Lil' Ivo.

    The magician cast his spell and "Lil' Ivo" grew to be 6'10" tall. He also could beat many people and soon became the best in his land.

    One day Ivo entered into the well-known Wimbledon tennis tournament.Tennisplayers from all countries came to compete and see who could be the best. Ivo played and beat quite a few players.

    Then, one day, Ivo had to play one of the greatest tennis players—Roger Federer (carrying a powerful new RF97 tear jerking letter).

    While everyone was scared of how strong Ivo was, Roger wasn't. Roger let Ivo serve his aces. He waited until the time was right and pounced on Ivo's serve, stealing two of Ivo's service games from him.

    Ivo went to put his sunglasses on but it was too late. He was crushed and beaten by Roger.

    There was great crying and anger in the kingdom of Croatia. When Ivo returned, one night, to his homeland, a large crowd of villagers with torches were waiting to meet him.

    Ivo ran from the people. The blood-thirsty crowd followed him up to Merlinic's castle. Ivo bolted the huge door which the mob tried to break down.

    Ivo shouted at the magician, "Why? Why? Why?"

    Merlinic looked at his creation with a huge amount of compassion and pity and said, "My son, did you train at all? Did you work on your volley? Your backhand? Your ground strokes? What, you expected to win the tournament on just your serve alone? Now there is a crowd out there that wants your blood. Here, take this large pile of tennis balls and defend yourself."

    Ivo went out to the castle window and looked down to the angry mob before. He started smashing 150-mph balls down on the crowd. Many fell and the rest were stunned and ran away.

    Ivo tried to train to be a tennis player, but he was already too old and elected to stay as a recluse in the castle. No one ever saw or heard from him again.

    Some in the nearby village can still hear tennis balls being swatted through the night.

    The moral of the story:

    Nothing good ever comes from townsfolk hanging around at night with torches.šević
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2016 at 3:33 PM
  3. Limpinhitter

    Limpinhitter G.O.A.T.

    Jun 10, 2010
    I think you are confusing two different players. Did you mean "Ode to Karlovic." BTW, the other player's name is spelled Ivanisevic.
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  4. CopolyX

    CopolyX Semi-Pro

    Nov 9, 2014
    Pelham NH
    Corrected his name, But yes to Goran I!
  5. NonP

    NonP Professional

    Jul 22, 2009
    Don't have time to respond to everything now except to say thanks to the contributors, but since the subject came up in one of my email exchanges tonight I figured this would be a good time to post the numbers here. @abmk and others, here are all the Fed matches I have (23 so far) with the total # of his unreturned serves/service points, in order of descending %:

    2001 Wim 4R d Sampras - 89/181 (49.2%)
    2003 YEC SF d Roddick - 26/56 (46.4%)
    2003 Wim F d Philippoussis - 43/93 (46.2%)
    2009 Wim F d Roddick - 88/197 (44.7%)
    2012 Wim SF d Djokovic - 44/101 (43.6%)
    2005 USO F d Agassi - 44/107 (41.1%)
    2007 YEC SF d Nadal - 21/48 (43.8%)
    2007 Wimb F d Nadal - 58/156 (37.2%)
    2006 YEC F d Blake - 31/86 (36.0%)
    2013 Wim 2R l Stakhovsky - 52/158 (32.9%)
    2004 Gstaad F d Andreev - 33/101 (32.7%)
    2008 AO SF l Djokovic - 33/109 (30.3%)
    2004 Wim F d Roddick - 46/154 (29.9%)
    2004 YEC SF d Safin - 24/81 (29.6%)
    2015 USO F l Djokovic - 40/137 (29.2%)
    2008 USO F d Murray - 22/81 (27.2%)
    2006 YEC SF d Nadal - 16/60 (26.7%)
    2004 USO F vs Hewitt - 23/89 (25.8%)
    2012 AO SF l Nadal - 33/135 (24.4%)
    2009 AO F l Nadal - 41/172 (23.8%)
    2008 AO 2R d Santoro - 13/61 (21.3%)
    2006 FO F l Nadal - 24/119 (20.2%)
    2006 Rome F l Nadal - 31/180 (17.2%)

    Notice how he rarely cracks the 40-45% ceiling, and in fact apart from his lone match vs. Pete we have yet to come across a single match where he flirted with breaking 50%, which is indeed rather underwhelming by the high standards of ATG servers. Now I do think I underrated Fed's serve when I grouped it more or less in the same vicinity as Safin's or even Tsonga's, but given these stats I just find it hard to rank it higher than the 19th place reserved for him at this point (which will likely move further down as we add more names). Of course contrary viewpoints are always welcome, as long as they're backed up with facts and solid reasoning. :D
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  6. Moose Malloy

    Moose Malloy Legend

    Dec 27, 2005
    ^on page 17, slice serve posted ljubicic's numbers vs fed in 4 of their matches. I'm sure he tracked Feds numbers as well in those matches, you should contact him. I suspect he had more unreturned serves in 2003 than in other years, perhaps due to the fact that he s&ved a bit more then(and of course the number 1 & 3 matches on your list had way more net approaches than every other match you listed)
    I have a few more that I haven't posted(none with high rates), will dig those up.

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