Greatest Strings by Type

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  1. Hooked

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    Been reading this forum and other sources about strings and certain patterns/trends/opinions have emerged in my mind. I'll go out on a limb and stir up the hornets nest. From what I have gathered these may be the best string currently available by string type:

    Natural Gut: Babolat VS Team 17G (Best playability of any string - period)
    Multi: Technifibre X-1 Biphase 17G (The most nat gut-like synthetic)
    Poly: RPM Blast 16G (Best spin potential)
    Synth Gut: Prince Original 16G (The original SG and still best)

    Let the slings and arrows fly!
     
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  2. pvaudio

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    I only agree with #1. Multi is Laserfibre Supernatural Gut Pro Stock, poly depends on what you want (spin is spiky shark though) and syn gut is OG Micro or Forten Sweet.
     
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  3. Parker512

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    This Thread is going to be taken down i bet.
     
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  4. Gasolina

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    You should also put in different classes of poly, like soft poly's and textured poly's.

    Maybe put a separate table for "best value" strings. E.g. best Multi would be the X-1 and the best value Multi would be the Dynamite
     
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  5. Mig1NC

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    Yeah, but you can't reliably get that anymore.
     
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  6. Hooked

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    Spiky Shark has a higher coefficient of friction than RPM blast which indicates it has less spin potential. See the chart in this blog.

    http://blog.tenniswarehouse.com/?p=1363

    The only strings that come close are MSV Focus EVO and Polyfibre TCS but the gap between them and RPM Blast is significant. Spiky Shark is one of the worst performers...
     
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  7. Doubles

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    This is a tough one. I would say this for the following:
    Synthetic Gut: Gosen OG Sheep Micro
    Multi: HEAD Rip Perfect Control
    Spin Friendly Poly: MSV Focus Hex
    Soft Poly: RPM Blast
    "Traditional" Poly: Luxilon Alu Power Smooth
    Natural Gut: Babolat VS Gut
    I will patiently wait for some of you to take shots at my picks...
     
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  8. Mig1NC

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    That list is far from all inclussive, and TW doesn't sell some brands like Genesis (ok, at this point you can call me fan-boy).

    That being said, I am very surprised we aren't talking Tour Bite 17 for best spin poly. People seem to like it here (I never tried it) and it rates highest in spin survey by the USRSA.
     
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  9. Centered

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    It's the most gut-like in terms of tension retention, when compared with other strings that haven't been pre-stretched. With pre-stretching, in one test IsoSpeed Professional Classic edged it.

    But, tension retention is not the most important characteristic. Dynamic stiffness is the primary characteristic of strings for comparison. X-One does not beat some multis in that area, like Dynamite. It is not more gut-like, in terms of dynamic stiffness.

    Nylon is a stiffer material than PEEK/Zyex, although extremely fine filaments of nylon can be used in a thin gauge string to come to a close approximation. At high tensions, IsoSpeed's polyolefin is softer than nylon multis, too.

    Based on what criteria?

    I also think nylon strings came out before Prince was a company.
     
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  10. Bugs

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  11. TripleB

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    Natural Gut with best cost/playability ratio: Klip Legend 16g
    Multi: Yonex Tour Super 850 or (after a little more play time with it) Mantis Comfort Synthetic 16g
    Poly: WeissCannon TurboTwist 1.24mm
    Synthetic Gut: Forten Sweet Synthetic 16g

    TripleB
     
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  12. Centered

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    Based on what criteria?
     
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  13. BobFL

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    Personal preference?
     
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  14. Hooked

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    Tour Bite certainly seems to have promise and perhaps it is better than RPM-B in spin production. I don't know as I haven't tried it yet, but likely will. The USRSA survey is a good data point, but I would like to see something more scientific/objective to quantify those opinions. It would be great if TW updated the COF chart with Tour Bite and some other popular strings to see how they compare objectively. It was eye opening to me to see how some strings that were highly regarded by many actually performed relatively poorly. Another affirmation that perception and reality aren't always correlated.
     
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  15. Hooked

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  16. MarrratSafin

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    Here we go again...:lol:

    Synthetic Gut: Prince Original Synthetic
    Multifilament: Technifibre X1-Biphase
    Shaped Poly: Volkl Cyclone
    Twisted / Textured Poly: WeissCannon Turbotwist / Genesis Typhoon
    Regular Round Poly: WeissCannon Silverstring
    Natural Gut: Babolat VS Team
     
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  17. Mig1NC

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    Since they sell it, I would bet they are working on adding it to their database.
     
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  18. Lajule

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    Natural Gut : Babolat VS Team
    Poly : Luxilon BB Original

    None of the others :)
     
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  19. GPB

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    The best synthetic gut I've played with is Pacific Powerline. It's not a very good bang-for-the-buck string, but it typically keeps its tension until it breaks, which is just about all I can ask for.
     
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  20. ClubHoUno

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    Natural Gut: Babolat VS Team 17 BEST STRING EVER MADE and the only natty gut I use!
    Worthy of mention: Babolat VS Touch 16 and Wilson Natural gut 16

    Multi: Laserfibre SuperNatural gut Prostock 17, but since this Prime Multi is no where to befound and Laserfibre as a company sick, the best Prime Multi is:
    Tecnifibre X-One 17 Natural color BEST FEEL OF ANY PRIME MULTI !
    Worthy of mention: Tecnifibre NRG2 17 and Babolat Xcel Power 17

    Poly: Luxilon Alu Power Smooth & Luxilon Alu Power Rough - can't decide between the two. The Alu Power has slightly better tension retention, feel and durability while the Alu Rough has slightly better spin and power, but feels stiffer and goes dead faster of the two.
    Worthy of mention: Weisscannon Silverstring 1.20, Weisscannon Turbotwist 17 and Tecnifibre Blackcode 1.18

    Synth. gut: Gosen OG Micro
     
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  21. Parker512

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    Synthetic: Dunlop synthetic 17.
     
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  22. ManuGinobili

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    If I have a penny for every time people just throw out what they like for no purpose...
     
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  23. Mig1NC

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    Since Hooked started this, I nominate him to keep a running tally of all the "votes" :)

    Could be fun to see how this ends up.
     
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  24. Centered

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    That has to be based on something.
     
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  25. Centered

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    There is plenty of data on nylon strings.

    here:
    http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/reporter.php

    and here:
    http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/articles/2010/01/string_selector_2010.html
     
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  26. OldButGame

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    It seems to me,..that if one person simply states "i prefer that string", that is a kernel of information. Admittedly it may not be a detaied analysis, broken down point by point,......but never-the less, it is information. When 10 people say the same thing,...that information has just grow in meaning. Its all about what You can extract from information that You're given,....without needing to have each particle explained to you. These forums ,from what i've seen are very much about people asking others peoples opinions (personal prefernces) on matters, and if each opinion expressed were required to be supported with 'data' and scientific 'proof',....then much of these forums would simply 'die' and to me that would be a sad thing. I respect other peoples opinions and preferences,....just because they 'exist'.
     
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  27. karophiteblu

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    i would trust the solinco's barb wire has the best spin potential of all. tour bite would definitely follow.
     
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  28. Hooked

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    Agreed. It is an ideal situation when you have objective data and subjective opinions that match up, but that is rarely the case. A few of the strings I nominated based on what I perceived to be a lot of subjective support without any real objective data to back it up. I know there are lots of great tools and data on various websites including TWU and RSI and others, but a lot of that data is raw, has holes and is difficult to translate into real world comparisons of how the strings will feel/behave. For instance, if the coefficient of friction is the main component of producing spin (and spin is such a large part of the game at higher levels), then why is it so difficult to find the specs for it in any of the objective data out there? It's kind of like assembling raw data on every car engine on the planet and leaving out the torque and horsepower figures.
     
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  29. Hooked

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    I accept. My duty really. I'll try to summarize in a seperate post later.
     
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  30. Centered

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    Yes, it's often like asking a lobbyist about the company/group he/she lobbies for. It's a "kernel of information", but what type of information?
    So is this.
    Yeah, like at Jonestown. There was consensus there.
    False dilemma.
     
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  31. Hooked

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    Certainly not scientific, but if you look at the feeback and rule out all of the single nominees that are not seconded, you are left with the following:

    Nat Gut:
    Bab VS Team - 6 votes

    Poly:
    Bab RPM Blast - 2 votes
    Solinco Tour Bite - 2 votes
    WeissCanon Turbotwist - 2 votes

    Mutli:
    Technifibre X1 Bi-Phase 17G - 4 votes
    Technifibre Laserfibre Supernatural Gut Pro Stock - 2 votes

    Synth Gut:
    Prince Original - 2 votes
    Gossen OG Micro - 2 votes
    Forten Sweet - 2 votes

    Looks like a win for Bab VS team and Tech X1 BP but probably not enough data to be statistically useful.

    I tried Technifibre X1 BP on a friends racquet last night and was really impressed with the feel and control it provided. We both agreed that giving up the extra spin that RPM Blast provided was a trade off we would likely make. I need to get a set and spend some more time with it. Same goes for Solinco Tour Bite.
     
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  32. Netspirit

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    Add my votes to VS team gut and LaserFibre SNGPS.
     
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  33. OldButGame

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    First,...I dont equate the minds expressing thoughts here ,...to those in Jonestown...(false dilemna otra vez mi amigo!!!),.....
    ....Secondly,...If You grant SOME credibility and respect to the people expressing opinions here,...then it seems to me You have a degree of 'probability',...that there may be validity in the opinions expressed,....not an absoluteness,...but a certain amount of likelihood or probability, the ability to abstract your thinking indicates a flexibility and maturation in the learning process,....:-|
     
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  34. Netspirit

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    A few days ago I went to laserfibrestore.com and ordered 2 sets of ProStock 17g (paid via PayPal), they arrived today as promised.

    So LaserFibre is alive and kicking.
     
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