Greatest Strokes of All Time - new book

Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by Moose Malloy, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. Limpinhitter

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    Actually, Borg deserves all 5 places for mental toughness. The next best is #6.
     
  2. absurdo

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    i think that if we are calling something like 'mental toughness' then we should include (i do realize the list doesnt belong to the OP) a lot of other categories, like speed, movement, intelligence, shot placement, shot selection, creativity, adaptability, and probably many others.

    plus, i do think it is very noble to try to create a list that goes across all different decades, but i can't stop thinking that some of the people on that list would loose, on a shot against shot contest, against people who are not on the list but are, basicly, superior players.
     
  3. absurdo

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    just a sidenote, i want to give as an example federer's backhand. i am far from suggesting it should be on the list, but i can easily see it being better, on game situation, than agassi's, than novak's, than safin's or some of the others. of course, more streaky than some, less powerfull than some, not so good over the shoulder, but as i said, on a game situation, how many times we saw him (and he is an example, i think we can give plenty of examples of how the superior player is just so much better overall that even his lesser shots are better than the competition better shots) dominate backhand against backhand? of course, because of movement, shot selection, etc...
     
  4. Limpinhitter

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    Deleted. Changed my mind.
     
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  5. absurdo

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    lol, but did you see me saying federer backhand should be on that list? i do agree on a pure shot by shot comparison those names (maybe not all) rank higher than federer's. dont get me wrong.

    but i don't think all those players can get an upper hand against federer even if trying to exploit his backhand. (i should say it is silly to make this a conversation about federer, mea culpa)

    but it's good you named nalbandian, we can add him to the mix, i think there is a good example of a guy who i DO THINK has a better backhand than federer's but is evident, looking at the matches, who has the upperhand even on backhand to backhand exchanges ( and we do count the slice as a backhand, right?)

    meaning: i dont see that much sense on this best shot's list, that was my first point, basicly because a lot of thing come into play 'when playing a backhand', for example.

    hope i made myself clear
     
  6. absurdo

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    Limpinhitter said:

    Hahaha! That flapping sound you hear is your credibility flying South. Seriously, Federer's backhand can be great, and it can also be erratic. But, even at its best, there are at least a dozen or more backhands in the history of tennis that are/were greater than Federer's backhand, inlcuding the backhands of Agassi, Connors, Laver, Kuerten, Djokovic, Edberg, Rosewall, Hoad, and quite a few more, on any surface, under any circumstances. There are probably half a dozen players right now with better backhands than Federer. Nalbandian, who has never won a major has a better backhand than Federer all day long. I think you need to reconsider your position on this.

    i dont like answering to the void, so here is your answer. for the record, you 'changed your mind' and there is no evil in that
     
  7. kiki

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    Hahahah.That is what looked like in Borg´s prime period.
     
  8. Limpinhitter

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    My bad. After I wrote it, I realized that I was responding to an argument that you didn't actually make.
     
  9. Limpinhitter

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    How many tennis players have an interstellar, hybrid machine/humanoid life form named after them?
     
  10. absurdo

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    no harm done man, we re just talking ;)
     
  11. kiki

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    true.There is also another player whose name spells for meteorite....
     

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