I dont know if TW will let this thread stay. I talked with Babolat today on this and they didnt feel it was a problem that affected their bussiness or reputation at all. Before I start I am not going to reveal in this thread where to buy or even how much these cost but I will say it was a ridiculously low amount. I'm in the import motorcycle bussiness. I import motorcycles and parts directly from China manufacturers. There has been lot of talk about counterfeit racquets, fakes, unauthorized copies etc. I talked with one of my motorcycle suppliers, discussed this with him and asked him to refer me to a company since there are literally hindreds that make these racquets. He did and I contacted them and asked for a price list and models offered. While being skeptical I asked if the racquet would meet manufacturers specifications. I was assured it would. So I went and bought two racquets from them. Keep in mind I wasnt expecting much more than a cheap, poorly made and barely recognizable as an official product you would buy from you local pro-shop and something that you or I would recognize very easily as a fake. What I got was two racquets identical in specs to each other and to manufacturers listed specs. The finish was absolutely flawless. Nothing out of place, bar codes, holograms. even the covers and cardboard inserts were identical to manufacturers original covers. Nothing out of place, grommets perfect, absolutely identical in every way to an official Babolat racquet. I called Babolat and told them I had purchased a racquet that I believed to be fake. We went over the racquet, he had me take the buttcap off and inspect the inside, asked about the staples used, about weight etc. The serial numbers were a non-issue since he said they could easily be copied. He told me it sounded like I had an official babolat racquet but.... finally we found a very very small item that confirmed it to be a unofficial Babolat racquet. Undeneath the size on the buttcap is a three letter code about a 1/8 inch in size that determines which factory the racquet was made in. this buttcap didnt have it. ohhh... he informaed also Babolat no longer places holograms on their racquets. I did not tell him that I bought the racquet directly from a China manufacturer but instead told him I bought it off ****. I asked him if the person selling them was breaking the law. He told me NO. He said he could call **** and get the listed removed but outside of that no law was being broken. He also said it just wasnt worth the effort for Babolat to go through since it really didnt affect their sales and to be honest he said unofficially it almost works as free advertising to them. Just these racquets were considered private sales and would have no warranty. I told him the racquets I bought were Aero Storms which surprised him since he gets alot of calls about it and mostly it is pure drives and aeropro racquets. He also said their racquets are manufactured in several China factories and it is not uncommon for racquets to slip out the back doors and sold privately. It was really no big deal. Ok so now I'm even more confused about grey market racquets. Its not against the law to sell them or buy them, the manufacturer could care less about their products being sold out the backdoor of their own plant or even copied and sold. I was all set up to have all my suspicions confirmed that these racquets would be poorly produced cheap knockoffs, not meet specs and the manufacturer would be up in arms about this. None of this happened. The point of the discussion was to get fellow players views on this. The practice of producing, buying, selling and playing with these racquets and the ethics of this. Whats your opinion?