Grommet help

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  1. levy1

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    I was leading a customers racket today and thought since I was stringing I would put the lead under the grommet strip. One of the grommets was mushroomed and I could not get it back in. Lucky for me I listen to you guys and had the grommet tool on hand with 4 packages of different grommets. Is there anyway to get a mushroomed grommet back through the hole?
     
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  2. Roger Wawrinka

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    I had this problem not to long ago. I was stringing for a client and they wanted lead under there racquet's bumper guard too. I took the grommets out carefully, put the lead on, then put them back in. One of the grommets were mushroomed too. It's very difficult to get them back in because of how weak they are. The grommet is so wide that the awl can not push the grommet back into shape. If you put too much strength in to it, the grommet will break. I managed to get the grommet back in but I would recommend you replacing the bumper guard.:)
     
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  3. Bowtiesarecool

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    I've only just started stringing but have been wondering about this. Couldn't a mushroomed grommet be fixed with a soak in boiling water and a pair of pliers?
     
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  4. levy1

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    I tried to reshape it with pliers and then I tried to drive it though the hole with a awl, neither worked.
     
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  5. jim e

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    In the future you may wish to lead under a grommet strip when the grommet is being replaced, and then be sure that this is exactly what they want, as grommets/ bumper would also need to be removed to remove the lead as well.
     
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    One way to get "mushroomed" grommets back into shape, is to use copper tubes. Place the mushroomed grommet in the tube, and carefully heat up the copper with a lighter. Slowly twist the tube back and forth, while working the grommet until it gets its shape back. Use an awl to set the grommet inside the tube to help it get its shape back.

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    hope I explained that process clearly.
     
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    Yes, that should work. It's also what another poster 'Peter Coffey' advocates though he uses a drill and copper tubing to re shape the flared grommets.

    BTW, the copper tubes are only 3, 4 or 5 mm ID. Hobby shop sourced.
     
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    I've had some luck reshaping the grommet with pliers. What I have done is that I fold flared out parts of the grommet inward and as straight as possible. Sometimes I fold them completely the inward.

    The copper tube trick seems like the most professional approach.

    Just some words of wisdom, the worst thing you could do is try to force the grommet inte the racquet. Yes you might get lucky and it might work but more often you are going to further damage the grommet.
     
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  9. Irvin

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    I think the worst thing you can do is remove the grommet to begin with if you don't have another to replace it.
     
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  10. jim e

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    My thoughts exactly!
    I can see using that tube system that Drakulie posted if there are no grommet sets available, but for the most part grommet sets are cheap, and only last so long anyways, so if they are being removed, I am sure to have a replacement.I'm sure that tube system works, but I bet the walls will become thinner , and that will increase their chance of deteriation soon anyways.
     
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    Wise words from the chapter entitled: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". ;)
     
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    Good advice. Only the paranoid survive.
     
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  13. Roger Wawrinka

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    Nice post! Never thought of that.:)
     
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    Thank you for the answer. I wounder if a hair dryer would work?
     
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    You mean to heat the copper tube? Think that would depend on how many BTU's the dryer puts out. It has to be hot enough to soften the grommet material and by twirling the tube, you re shape the flare back to a straight form. Peter used a drill to twirl the tube and friction does the rest.
     
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    Wow, another good idea!
     
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    Wow, replacing an old grommet is tough!
     
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    I keep a roll of plastic tubing just in case of situations like yours.
    But in any case, if customer requests lead under the grommets, then tell them that you have to replace the grommets too.

    It's a waste of time to fool with used/worn grommets.
     
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  19. Irvin

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    Who said this was a customer request?

    I would hate to be reading this thread and wondering if that was my racket.
     
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  20. jim e

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    Now if this customer does not like the lead on the racquet what are you planning on doing?

    This is why I would have the player hit with the leaded racquet 1st to see how he likes it,with the lead on the inside edge of racquet and then if he/she thinks it is going to stay that way, suggest a new grommet set and hide under the bumper.Otherwise it is easy to just remove the lead if placed on the inside edge of racquet . If your customer asks you to remove the lead, then you have very few choices on removing it.

    Irvin is correct, I would never remove a grommet set without having a new set to put in.
     
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  21. Irvin

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    Hopefully the customer requested a specific weight and balance / swingweight, or the weight was being moved from the inside of the frame to outside under the grommets. Maybe he was matching this racket to another one.
     
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    I already worked with the customer and he played with different setups until he found the one he liked. I always told him I would put the lead under the head and inside the but cap when he was ready. This was my first time and I will learn from my mistake as I have learned from all of you.
     
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