GUGA, the player to overcome federer????

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  1. gugafanatic

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    For some reason guga appears to get little mention in this forum despite defeating federer comfortably at the french in 3 sets and also winning in straight sets in indian wells last year. Guga is a top 20 player despite missing the entire grass court swing and suferring with a chronic hip. However after beating ginepri and henman at toronto, he seems to be back to hes best. Unfortunately he was given the strain too play 2 matches on the same day, and narrowly was defeated despite having 2.M.P in second set.

    Providing guga stays in good physical condition, I am sure can challenge the best on hardcourts. I believe hes backhand and serve are far stronger then federer, but he lacks in one department and that is hes movement is suspect at times due to his hip.

    I am sure he will be back in the top 10, providing hes physically fit.
     
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  2. StupidCupid

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    Totally agree. He is the one who can challenge Federer if he is healthy and focused.
     
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  3. NCODE95

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    I hope he can he is a fantastic player to watch.
     
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  4. norcal

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    I love Guga but forget about it. His movement will never be the same.
     
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  5. Feña14

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    I think that Guga could be a challenger for Fed. I think it could be Safin aswell if he is focused and fit.

    When Safin is at his best he is miles ahead of Roddick, I think Safin could be THE one. Guga could also be a serious threat along with Safin, Roddick and Henman, on his day he can beat anyone including Fed.

    I think those 4 will be the main threats in the next few years.

    -Liam
     
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  6. TwistServe

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    I completely agree with you... err with the exception of Henamn.. he is gettin too old to be a threat.
     
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  7. PistolPete

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    Clearly as your name states, you are a "gugafanatic". As much as I love Guga he will not take down Federer as the best player in the game. He may have beatin Federer in straight sets but then Guga goes out an loses to relative unknowns on the tour, like last week in Toronto. Federer dominates everybody. Guga goes on streaks, mostly at the French Open, where he dominates everybody. Guga is the King of the French. Federer is the King of Everything.
     
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  8. gugafanatic

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    The reason guga may lose to a lesser opponent is due to lack of physical intensity on the court, during long matches. Though many assume he is only a clay-court specialist, guga actually defeated the likes of safin,sampras,norman and agassi (final) during the end of years masters in lisbon on hard court(2000), and finished the year world no 1. He has also reached the Q-finals of US and wimbledon. Not forgetting hes love affair with the french.

    In terms of natural talent and creativity, guga is superior to federer. Im pretty sure if guga had not suffered with the long-term hip problem, he would still be world no 1. In addition, how can people talk of federer's backhand in the same league as guga's. Guga, can caress the ball cross court and down the line, and hits with alot more angle and spin. Federer seems to punch the ball back, and is content on keeping hes backhand deep. Although hes chip return is very masterful, along with hes slice.
     
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  9. speedofpain88

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    I think we should add Haas to this list.
     
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  10. VamosRafa

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    Dream on. The guys who will really challenge Fed will be the newer generation.
     
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  11. guernica1

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    Guga's struggles with return will always keep him at a disadvantage on hard courts.

    I agree with you that he is very talented still but if you want to see what I mean try watching his match against Taylor Dent this year in Indian Wells, Thomas Enqvist a couple years ago in Miami (right after he had gotten to the finals) or that loss to Arthurs in Flushing when he was one of the top seeds and just got thumped.

    Head to head on hard courts with Federer may be a little different but first Guga has to beat the likes of the Jan Hernych's of the world before we can talk about him beating Federer let alone Andy Roddick.

    I like the guy too, but he first has to beat a pretty talented rising player, Yen-Hsun Lu tonight, before we start reliving past glories before the hip operation.
     
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  12. YEMntFtb

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    Its a tough call if guga can really challenge federer these days, hes a great player, yes but mentally he isnt. Federer has the power to change his game in a flash, to think about everything, analyze and change his game to beat anyone. He easily beat andy in Toronto.

    He simply can not be defeated at this point. He is to smooth, he doesnt need the power, he can hit every shot in the book, and his backhand is exceptional.

    PistolPete put it the best, "feder is the king of everything"


    look out for Tommy Haas, hes rebounding and he is very very good.
     
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    Challenge to Federer?

    I feel that Guga, Haas, Agassi, Safin, Roddick, Coria, Ferrero, Moya, and Nalbandian can all challenge Federer. However, injuries and attitude keep almost all of these players from being a threat to Federer. Just think of the variety and matchups that would be possible if all these guys were healthy and did not have mental lapses. ESPN keeps hyping Roddick and Federer like it was Sampras-Agassi, but Roddick is one loss away from having a mental block against Federer. His Wimbledon speech regarding the "kitchen sink" was very telling. I don't think that was just a flipant remark. I think he is very close to believing that Federer can't be beat with the game Roddick has. Guga can surely out-smooth Federer, but his hip issue will keep him as a sentimental crowd favorite only. Agassi's age and Safin's attitude keep them from beating Federer. Coria and Ferrero have game, but seem to be breaking down after a few successful years. Nalbandian and Moya can challenge, but just might not have the mental fortitude to see it through. I think Haas seems to have the best chance, if he stays healthy. Although he might suffer the same frustration as Roddick.
     
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  15. I gotta chime in on this one! But I won't waste too much space saying what we all know. Guga: beautiful strokes, not the same as before, Fed too tough right now. But I think Guga in Lisbon in 2000 was as tough as Fed in Houston last year.
     
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  16. Free_Martha

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    Getting beat by a three-time French Open champion is really nothing for Federer to be embarassed about.
     
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