(Gulp) Rate My Strokes! (video link)

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  1. Pisolino227

    Pisolino227 Rookie

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    Hey guys,
    Tell me what you think. Where can I improve? What am I doing well? What am I doing poorly? Footwork? Grip? Honesty is appreciated. Thanks for all the help, I'm looking forward to the comments......I think.

    Here is the link, just click:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgZxgsr2jlM
     
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  2. looseswing

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    I think that you could use a little more knee bend for your strokes. On your backhand you could probably keep your legs a little further apart to be more stable. On the forehand something looks off, I can't really tell. It is either you are arming it too much or that you are doing something weird with your left hand. Kind me a little of Jon Mac's forehand for some reason. You seem prety quick on the court which is good. Pretty good overall though.
     
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  3. fx101

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    Well, It seem you're hitting western with the Windshield wiper stroke, exactly like me. You're not using your legs (bend) to explode into the ball which provides that extra woosh into the ball. Also, watch your feet as your right foot seems to flail all over the place after and while you are hitting. You could self rate as a 4.0-4.5 however if you fix the issue with not using knee bend (not jumping, just using the legs for power) and stepping into the ball rather than having your feet all over the place you could advance to 5.0. Take a few lessons and then go to a USTA rating clinic. You should do fine.
     
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  4. aRod36

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    just curies what racket are you using there:D

    thanks
     
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  5. Pisolino227

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    It's a very old Wilson, from about 93 or 94. I can't even remember the name of it, I was using it as my back up racquet. My normal frame is a Babolat Aero Pro Drive +
     
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  6. ZPTennis

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    Wow this message board has a tough crowd. :D

    If I was to rate your strokes, they would be a 4.5 at the minimum. And I think they could pass for 5.0 also.

    As a player, you could be anywhere from 4.0-5.0. Theres just no way of knowing without seeing the consistency of the shots including the other shots not on video. You look like you have a nice game though.
     
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  7. w00gy

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    I assume the ball machine is feeding you?

    Your footwork looks good but if someone hits back at the same pace you are hitting with... you would be sprinting all over the court :D
     
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  8. jackson vile

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    With out seeing serve and serve return I say 4.0, the foot work and using the rest of the body is the issue.

    Furthermore you could see that you got tired at the end, you rating is not based on your best shots ect.


    Let me ask you this, if I entered you into a tournament right now what level do you think you could win at?
     
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  9. Pisolino227

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    tired at the end of a two minute and twenty second clip. You're seeing two minutes out of a two hour session.
     
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  10. drakulie

    drakulie Talk Tennis Guru

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    You have some nice strokes. It's your shoes you have to change.
     
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  11. jackson vile

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    Of hitting with a ball machine right? And that is just ground strokes right? There is far more to the game than strokes, tell you what just for looks you get 5.0.

    But you did not answer the question, what level tournament do you think you can get a solid win at? That is your level, thus you enter a tourament and see.
     
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  12. andyroddick's mojo

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    i think your shoes are fine. its your shirt and shorts that don't really match. haha, but good stokes.
     
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  13. Pisolino227

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    I've won matches on the usta level, collegiate level, and futures qualifying draw level. As far as ball machine, no it's a human being although I do own a Silent Partner Ball Machine which is a tremendous tool as far as ball production is concerned. And yes, there is quite a bit more to the game of tennis. Eventually I'll get some serving footage up, but I only have a camera that records to mini disc and I have a slot loading cd rom drive on my laptop, smart huh? Thus I have to use my camera which only has an mpeg movie option and gives me maybe 2-3 minutes of decent footage per memory stick. Thus the crappy footage. I'lll get some updated footage soon, this suff is from June and I've been aware of that somewhat flailing right foot and lack of knee bend. But bring more comments about bending the knees because that is an area that interests me. As far as stance is concerned I tend to vascilate between open and closed depending on my positioning.
     
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  14. Andres

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    I hated the shoes. I HAAAATED them :mrgreen:
     
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  15. Pisolino227

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    Those Nike shoes are probably models from 02 or 03. I found three pairs of them on **** for 120 dollars shipped so I couldn't pass that deal up. Plus they offer excellent ankle support because the outer material is very stiff. I'd rather look like I have questionable fashion taste than hobble around on bad ankles. But no offense taken, I had a red pair that were probably more flashy.
     
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  16. drakulie

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    Can't you put garbage bags over them? Just kidding. They are pretty hidious though.
     
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  17. TnTBigman

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    nice looking backhand when you drive it. like those guys said above, u need to get low to the ball and bend those knees. based on that practice session, I'd say your probably a 4.5-5.0 player if u where in the states. keep it up.
     
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  18. Janne

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    Wow, you look like a very good player! I really like your backhand!
     
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  19. baros

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    you need to watch the ball more it seems like you watch were your shots go to much and become late to some shots.
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  20. Pisolino227

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    that's a good point baros and something I've noticed. I've been concentrating on keeping my head down longer through the shot. Good observation.
     
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  21. wings56

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    strokes look very solid and so does youre movement, you seem to have a great feel and control for the ball so i think you would benefit from taking more forehands at the peak of the bounce or on the rise, and maybe drive through your backhand slice a little more, but other than that it looks pretty solid
     
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  22. 35ft6

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    You look tired. I sort of don't like the way you use your left arm on your stroke. You bring it INTO your body on the swing, which I do also when I really want to hit super heavy topspin, but you do it on every shot, and on most shots you would hit a more penetrating ball if you used your left arm to counterbalance your upper body more. Like bring it out to your side more -- like a waiter holding a tray full of glasses at shoulder level -- so that at the end of the follow through the racket is INSIDE your left arm. Right now, the racket ends up outside your left arm.

    Also, you should be hitting on the rise much much more. Those balls your opponent's hitting you aren't landing that deep, and don't appear to have much on them, and you're 10 feet behind the baseline. To take it to the next level you should learn to hit the ball earlier.

    Otherwise, looking good. Nice looking backhand. You look like a 4.5 to 5.0 at least.
     
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  23. edberg505

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    Well, I think that your strokes look pretty good. You'd probably be a 5.0 here in NM. You look like a pretty good player. There are some pretty tough critics on this board. The question is always how can you compete with players of a specific level. You can't always judge a person just by seeing short clips but it's enough to give a rough estimation. Like I've told some people on this board before, I could bring in a clip of some players who don't look like they're doing much on the court but turn out to be a top 20 D1 player.
     
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  24. jackson vile

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    Ok still you did not answer the question, so what level have you won at then? Have you won any tournaments or just matches?
     
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  25. shindemac

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    Your strokes look a bit wild and unrefined for someone of your level. You look self-taught, and you probably don't have a coach. There's a lot of extra movement in your strokes. Work on your footwork, use a wider stance, and bend your knees more.
     
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  26. Swissv2

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    Just a few comments.

    Your forehand looks solid. good takeback and follow through.
    Your backhand stroke is solid, but why is your posture like that? For the forehand, you have a great posture, but you are bending over the shot for the backhand. Bending like that would be the result of not bending your knees. Try hitting the low balls you were slicing with some topspin next time. Sometimes its not necessary to hit those low ones with slice, especially if it is meant for a passing shot.

    Other than that, good footwork and....

    WOW the shoes and the socks - amazing combo. :p
     
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  27. Sleepstream

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    Why is this video footage from the TV? Honestly, you can see the lines from where the TV is refreshing the image.

    Something just seems odd considering that this wasn't recorded from the court.
     
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  28. Pisolino227

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    Hey sleep I addressed that issue about 7 posts ago, go back and read. I only have a mini disc camera and a slot loading cd rom on my computer, thus no way to transfer so I have to use my mpeg camera mode to record from the tv. Yes, this is a giant conspiracy. I seek out 4.0's players, record them, and pass them off as myself.
     
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  29. Sleepstream

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    Sorry about that, man. I must have missed it.

    I'm pretty sure there are ways to stream it to your computer from the camera. My friends and I did it quite often during some of our projects from high school, but that was years ago, so I don't remember how to do it myself.

    What about some volleys next time?
     
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  30. Pisolino227

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    no problem sleep. I just got a mini usb jack converter so the next video will be nice and clean. I'll post in a week or two hopefully showing some better kneed bend along with some volleys and serve. Can anybody explain more about kneed bend with regards to my strokes? Also could I get some more forehand tips. I like taking balls on the rise, but I usually step back when I want to hit with heavy topspin. Is it possible to hit heavy topspin on the rise as opposed to the down arch?
     
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  31. iksmols

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    I really like your backhand form.I am not in position to critique your strokes .
     
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  32. dannyjjang

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  33. Xevoius

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    I have the same pair of shoes and after I finish this post, they are going to be placed in the garbage.
     
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  34. jimiforpres

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    nice strokes, but your main problem is that you are waiting for some shorter balls and taking them far behind the baseline. When you see a short ball, don't be hesitant to take a few steps inside the baseline and be more aggressive.
     
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  35. dannyjjang

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    can i have it
     
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  36. supersmash

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    Good strokes! In southern California, you'd be a solid 4.0.
     
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  37. D-man

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    You look like you've watched federer a lot. This is just my opinion, but I think you may benefit from just slowing down your mental rythm just a tad, your strokes just seem slightly rushed which loses a little control. Aah, if it doesn't help, just ignore it.
     
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  38. tennishack1

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    Get Professional help and have your strokes analyzed using Dartfish it helped me a ton! check out this link. www.vicbradentennis.com Click on the Dartfish Tab and then look at the Dartfish Sample. They r quick and spot on with the analysis
     
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  39. Pisolino227

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    Thanks, I'll look into that dartfish. Speaking of rushed strokes, sometimes I do definitely feel as though I could slow them down, but I'm always so worried that I'm not imparting enough spin. Keep bringing the comments in. Thanks again guys!
     
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  40. ericwong

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    You probably play better if there is no barrier behind you. It seems you dare not do a full swing because of the fear of hitting something behind you.

    My 2 cents worth
     
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  41. RiosTheGenius

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    you remind me a lot of Carlos Moya... similar body and hair, the head band, similar movement, the forehand looks similar too (which is a good thing), in fact, the only thing I find weak in Moya's game is your best thing.. your nice looking 1HBH... moya 's 2 hander has never bothered anyone.
     
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  42. Jonny S&V

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    Need to see a little more turn and see more of your back on the BH. Overall, one of the better critique vidoes on this board.
     
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  43. Pisolino227

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    Johnny When you say more of the back on the backhand are you saying I need more shoulder rotation......more upper body rotation? I've always been under the impression that you should keep your leading shoulder square through the stroke. Thanks for all the comments guys and don't be afraid to add more, I'm going to post a video update soon.
     
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