Guys who played both and could beat Federer but never beat Nadal

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  1. roysid

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    Only for players who played both. The names that come to my mind are

    Richard Gasquet
    Stanislas wawrinka

    Anyone else.
    I'm sure the reverse list would be much longer
     
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  2. The-Champ

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    karlovic has beaten Fed but not Rafa.
     
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  3. Hitman

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    What about Julien?
     
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  4. The-Champ

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  5. RF-17-GOAT

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    So?
    10chars.
     
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  6. MichaelNadal

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    Somehow I think your reply would be different if this topic was the other way around.
     
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  7. Devilito

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    Fed rotting in his grave wouldn't lose to Rosol at Wimbledon
     
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    Fed's played a lot more matches on hard court than Rafa has. (surface for them most likely to both be upset on)
     
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    I think the thread proves that Nadal is a better player and tougher opponent than Federer.
     
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    I actually think it is quite impossible to have a thread about Nadal not gatecrashed by butthurt *******s.
     
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    You obviously mean grass!
     
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    i think it's impossible to have a thread where rabid Natards dont have a hissy fit and a few blows at Fetards
     
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    yeah, i remember that one. Henman said that the courts of dubai would help his game against Nadal because it was very fast. Nadal breadsticked his ***. lol :D
     
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  16. sureshs

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    No, there is no way to know. All we do know is that there are many pros who could beat Federer but not Nadal. Nadal is a much more solid player.
     
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    Oh, really? Let's do it the other way round.

    Players who beat Nadal but not Federer:

    Youzhny
    Ferrer (!!)
    Lopez
    Johansson
    Moya
    Kohlschreiber
    Gaudio
    Andreev
    Mayer
    Monaco
    Srichapan
    Verdasco
    Cilic
    Chela
    Garcia-Lopez
    Lapentti
    Rochus O.
    Seppi

    Also it took a while for Davydenko, Soderling, Gonzalez, Blake to get their first win against Federer. The same guys cause/used to cause serious trouble to Nadal.
     
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    I enjoy coming to the boards everyday to see the enormous amount of threads and posts from butthurt *******s trying to demean Federers accomplishments, attack Federer, and/or try to prove how Nadal is somehow an overall greater player than Federer.

    But it does make me wonder how people can become so personally attached to a player that they expend so much time and energy posting here in the belief they are proving a point to anyone outside of their own twisted little minds.
     
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    And I think it's hilarious how sensitive some Federer fans are when threads like this are made ;)
     
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    that's an amazing list of some garbage players Fed rick rolls on a consistent basis. Poor Nadal. Can they slow the game down anymore for him?
     
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    Delete post.
     
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    If it's Joachim he never played Federer...
     
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    I think it's pretty funny too when *******s leap to conclusions from sketchy evidence. I know not everyone is a logician, but LOL.
     
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    Come on now, there are twice as many Federer fans on this board, and twice as many trolls on that side too.
     
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    Is that stat accurate?

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    well it probably did help him...first set was 7-6.on a slow court would have been a double breadstick against 31 year old Henman :lol:
     
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    how did u omit Rosol?
     
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  29. Leto

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    Fed's never played Rosol...read the title of the thread again :)
     
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  30. nadal2012uso2013ao

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    They make a thread about anything and everything trivial and meaningless, as long as it might make Federer look better than Nadal on paper. Still reeling after the 2012 Australian Open semis I guess :cry:
     
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    wow...my bad.

    wow, fed played all those guys???
     
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    wayne rooney would never beat nadal in ping pong
     
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  33. henryshli

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    Has Simon been mentioned?
     
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  34. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    I'm not surprised at the list. It takes immense mental toughness to beat :D Rafa :D.
     
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    Thank you, hood_man

    There are a lot of players in that list
     
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    There's another player on that list..

    Albert Montanes. he beat federer in 2010 but not nadal
     
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  37. roysid

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    Simon has beaten both
     
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    Analysis of those players

    The old ones got Federer when he was young and upcoming and beat him. By the time they faced Nadal, they were over the hill and smashed by him.

    These are
    Agassi
    Henman
    Grosjean
    Kiefer
    Massu
    Safin

    Then there are some who caught Fed at the wrong time (when he was off form)
    Karlovic - 2008 Cincy
    Montanes - 2010 Portugal
    Gulbis - 2010 Rome
    Wawrinka - 2009 MC

    While some players genuinely trouble Federer and not nadal
    Haas
    Gasquet
    Canas
     
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    Come on..There are many who could beat Nadal regularly but not Fed

    Ferrer, Lopez, Youzhny.

    Davydenko, Blake, Gonzalez, Soderling, Del Potro used to beat Nadal and after a long time they could beat Fed.
     
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    Who has the better h2h vs Djokovic?
    Who has the better h2h vs Murray?
     
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  42. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    No. Why should I?
     
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    If h2h against these 2 and many others were as important as some imply then why does Federer have more consecutive weeks @#1 by more than double Rafa's total weeks @#1?
     
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  45. nadal2012uso2013ao

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    Because Federer never runs out of energy. That was obvious last year when Nadal had nothing left after the US Open (except for a comfortable Davis Cup win), while Federer dominating everything, at age 30!
     
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  46. Cup8489

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    I do. I'm undefeated against both.
     
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    Lol.. sounds like a bag of excuses to me.
     
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    Nadal has poor year-long energy. I'm pointing out a major weakness. Is that an 'excuse' is it? Isn't it just a negative?
     
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    I would say it has less to do with Nadal having less total energy than Federer and more of Nadals inefficient game style sucks his available energy for the year much faster than Federer. Nadal is a grinder/retriever/run everything down type of player and that takes a toll on him.
     
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    Federer was injured in these matches.
     
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