GWB's Matchplay 10/26/08

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  1. NamRanger

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    In his own age group. Factor in child prodigies from the 16 age group and he drops way lower in the rankings. He's only a 3 star player, and more then likely he will not get into a D1 college tennis team. Predominantly those colleges take at the minimum 4 star players. Very rarely will they recruit anyone under that, unless they are looking to fill up spots at the bottom of the team (i.e. Baylor, who recruits overseas and then fills up the bottom with ok backups).


    That is a generalization. I know some D1 coaches will take a 3 star player if they have time to develop them. For instance, I know a junior around here who is ranked in the top 300 who is going to Texas A&M Corpus Christi (pretty good tennis school). He has the raw talent, huge serve, big ground strokes, and great for a 6'2 guy. Reason why he is not doing better is due to injuries, fitness, and lack of variety. He is going to A&M CC because Steve Moore has a plethora of Europeans who will play in front of him. This will allow him time to develop the junior player for a year and transition him to the college game.


    3 star recruits are good players. A few of them will be recruited into a D1 school (lower end of D1), while the majority will be going to D2 schools. Most fall into the 5.0 category. They have weaknesses to their game that does not allow them to get above that level. 5.5 is pushing it, while 6.0 is not even possible. It's better to underrate rather than to overrate anyways.
     
  2. Ballinbob

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    Cmon guys, let it go. GWB made a mistake, no need to go in to all this. He thinks highly of his friends and believes he's pretty good, nothing wrong with that. By the way, you don't need to take offense that he's not a 5.5 or 6.0. Top 200 in the nation for 18s is a huge accomplishment for any highschool player. He's obviosuly a great player, but mabye you just rated him too high. I don't want to get caught up in this argument, so thats all Im gonna say. Besides, we've gotten way off topic. Lets just stick to helping GWB and mabye encourage him to make another vid:)
     
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  3. FitzRoy

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    You're reading too much into this. There was no wild overrating going on here - surely it's conceivable that his friend is a 5.0 or 5.5. GWB wasn't that far off, and I for one can't make the claim that I can easily tell between a 5.0 and a 5.5, or a 5.5 and a 6.0. Once you start talking 5.0 and above, I find it very difficult to judge. There's a reason for that. It's because those types of players are not what the NTRP was designed for. To say - based on evidence on a message board!- that a 16 year old who can't easily tell between a 5.5 and 6.0 suffers from inner insecurity is ridiculous. Your contention is that he knows his friend is a 5.0 but claims he's a 6.0 to make himself feel better? Honestly, it's ridiculous. There is absolutely no reason and no basis for you to make any statement like this.
     
  4. FitzRoy

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    My point is that stating a 5.0 friend is a 6.0 is not deliberate overrating if you don't know the difference between the two.
     
  5. fluffy Beaver

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    How about you arguing your skills levels over Demon, or talking trash to hewitt aussie when you had the user name "sinnetennis".
     
  6. Azzurri

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    yes, the video posted by Fitzroy. The video of the USC/Stanford match had a better angle then the one of your match (If I remember correctly). I guess it was easier to see their skill level..very good.

    Yes..5.5 is certainly attainable when you are ranked top 200 in the nation under 18. I was just saying that people are full of it to argue something they did not even see. Seriously..they have not even seen him play.

    My buddy was/is rated a 5.0 player. He was an excellent HS player and played in State level tourney's. But he was not ranked anywhere near top 200 in the nation. So 5.5 is not too difficult to imagine. but others are being petty.
     
  7. Azzurri

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    I have had dealing with Nam before.

    The key word is reasonable...but others are making it a personal issue.
     
  8. Azzurri

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    Do you even know what a PRODIGY is??? You act as if they are all over the place. You are showing how clueless you are. I admit I don't know a whle lot about the system, but you show your ignorance when you say PROGIES are all over the place so that is why GWB friend would drop even lower if he were 16. WHATEVER!:evil:
     
  9. Kevo

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    And what did I learn from watching those guys. Points look short and mistakes are what seems to end them. I guess I'm right on track then. :p
     
  10. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I saw that as well, not very long points.
     
  11. cookieman264

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    Hey, great videos, you play very well. Much respect to you because I don't get to watch a lot of players our age play as well as you. It'd be great if you post some more; you should show a game or two from a match.
     
  12. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    My sister has been very.. um "mean" lately ( I am being very nice in how I say that ._. ) I accidentally took one of her memory cards that I wasn't supposed to take last time so she said that I am not allowed to use her camera anymore.

    As we speak, my parents are yelling at her.
     
  13. 5263

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    You are cracking me!
     
  14. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    I could possibly take and use her camera but I would have to do it on a day I know she will be gone.
     
  15. FitzRoy

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    Well, I didn't mean "good" in the sense of it making them look like really good players. I just meant "good" as in a better quality video to see them. Clearly the editing is completely biased; actually, it's about the most biased editing I've seen outside of that one guy who used to post high-quality videos of Rios winning points against various players. And the USC fans in the stands are annoying, but I guess that's college sports in general. ;)

    All of that said, there's only so far one can go with editing. Regardless of who's winning or losing the points, you can see the level of play in the footwork and the quality of ball being struck. You could take every good shot I've ever hit in 9 years of playing and not come up with anything close to shots of that caliber.
     
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    Oh but if I could save up every let cord return of serve that trickled over the net onto my opponent's side that I have hit in the past 9 years, and deploy them all in one match. . .

    J
     
  17. 5263

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    Good point, the vid quality was excellent.

    I sort of agree about the quality of the points. If you took a lower ranked team, you might even see a more spectacular highlight show. USC is doing well partially due to a high level of quality consistency. Some lower teams are much more aggressive, leading to more errors and losses, but also to a much more impressive highlight reel. I do applaud USC for their crisp match play.
    Takes a pretty good eye to appreciate the difference, especially if you don't have their record to refer too.
     
  18. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    What section is USC in? I'm not into college tennis much.
     
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    aaaaaaaaaaaaa
     
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  20. 5263

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    Pac 10, right?
     
  21. FitzRoy

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    Yeah, Pac 10 in tennis...and in everything else, pretty much.
     
  22. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    thanks.....
     
  23. futuratennis

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    btw gee willikers get over that white tape crap... whenever u say it it pisses me off... haha :D
     
  24. Gee Willikers Batman!

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    Sorry! But it is the on-going joke around here.

    Even Freshman/JV team know what it means / how we got to saying it.
     
  25. baseline08thrasher

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    What in the world is up with all of the impatience?

    Wack...
    oh double fault.
    wack wack wack.
    oh a winner.
    wack wack wack.
    ohhh..
    drop shot.

    Where is the thinking?
     
  26. futuratennis

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    kinda what i thought... GWB i donno why u really posted the vid up as it doesnt really show much, you shoulda just filmed a new one
     
  27. OhDear

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    I liked it, your backhand is a great shot. You step into it really well.
     

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