Hamburg Clay seems faster then Monte Carlo and French Open

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  1. NadalForever

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    Congratulations to Federer for ending Nadal's streak and Federer was cleary a much better player today. However to me it seems the clay in Hamburg is very thin and much faster than in Monte Carlo and French Open. That is why Federer has so much success in Hamburg. That is also why Nadal almost lost to Hewitt.
     
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  2. Isn't Hamburg supposed to be the SLOWEST? Rome is faster for sure. Roger won because he played well and Nadal played terribly in the last two sets. It's not an excuse it's just the facts. Nadal won the first set largely because Roger played poorly in that set as well. It's disappointing for Nadal but he has to rest and get ready to play in a week.
     
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  3. ACE of Hearts

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    Actually its considered the slowest!
     
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  4. Nadal_Freak

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    Yeah it almost seemed too slow as it messed up Nadal's timing. Maybe I'm confusing that with fatigue though.
     
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    Should Nadal switch to a larger frame???

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    Fed: 1 FH, 2BH= 3 total
    Nadal: 4 FH, 1 BH = 5 total

    WINNERS
    Fed: 15 FH, 2 BH= 17 total
    Nadal: 5 FH, 5BH= 10 total

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    Fed= zero
    Nadal= one
     
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  6. Andres

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    How much larger? 130 sq inches? :lol:
     
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  7. NadalForever

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    The clay in Hamburg is not as red and deep as in Monte Carlo and French Open. To me it seems the ball bounces in Hamburg clay in a very predictable motion. It's much easier for Fed to return Nadal's serves. In Monte Carlo and French Open Fed is owned by Nadal because Fed can't return Nadal's serves. I still think Nadal will win French Open and Fed won't even get to the final. Fed fans can truly gloat and have a huge orgy party if Fed win French Open.
     
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  8. drakulie

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    Fed has the longest winning streak on clay.
     
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  9. I would have never taken you for a Fed troll Drak.
     
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  10. Nadal_Freak

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    That might be it. It was amazing how well Federer took the ball on the rise. It seemed just like a slow hardcourt match a la Miami. Still Rafa didn't fight because of fatigue. A rested Nadal and a deeper clay court could make the difference.
     
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  11. drakulie

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    What are you talking about? It's true.
     
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  12. habib

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    What are you guys, 13?
     
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  13. mileslong

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    its tough to get two excuses in one sentance but you managed it like a champ, good job!
     
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    Nadal will prove me right at the French Open. Enjoy it now but it will be different in 3 weeks.
     
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    It did seem faster this year though, mighta been because of the weather. But yeah, the statistics of winners:unforced errors would seem to confirm that it was playing faster than the average red clay court.
     
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    I do agree that hamburg clay is faster and it gave Federer a decisive advantage over nadal. that will not happen at the French. i will boldly predict a straight set victory over federer in the finals that is if federer gets there. Fed may lose to Canas again.
     
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  17. drakulie

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    With all the excuse making from Nadals fans about him being tired>>> You could only wish Nadal gets to the second week of the French.
     
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  18. boojay

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    Advantage, mileslong
     
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    It seems like the board has had alot of cry babies today.
     
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    Would be quite ironic if neither of them got to the finals.
     
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  21. Nadal_Freak

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    Haha yeah. I'd take Fed not getting to the finals any day. :D That will wipe off that stupid look in his face. I actually think Nadal felt pity for Federer has he looked disgruntled in that first set.
     
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  22. boojay

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    and how did he feel in the 2nd and 3rd sets, if I may ask?
     
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  23. drakulie

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    You shouldn't "think", as it is having a bagel-like effect on your posts.
     
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  24. Nadal_Freak

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    Too bad it wasn't the French Open. When it really counts.
     
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  25. boojay

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    ^I think someone's avoiding the question.

    it's ok, you can still have a bagel.
     
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    The pathetic thing is neither of these 2 great players MAKE EXCUSES, win or lose, while their so called troll-fans make up excuses for them (tired, slump, etc)...posting in the comforts of their keyboards. Tsk tsk.
     
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  27. federer_nadal

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    You are a moron, he lost, he got beaten by fed, not by the clay being too fast, or then too slow or fatigue. I mean one of you nadal fans were saying it was too slow then you were saying too fast i mean its obvious you are just looking for excuses. Once again why many posters are starting to drop by the forums less and less.
     
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  28. Nadal_Freak

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    Whatever man. I'm looking forward to the French Open. Nadal shouldn't have played this tournament as many have said already. Hopefully it doesn't hurt his chances at Roland Garros.
     
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  29. boojay

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    and it begins......the seeds of doubt start to creep in. the tourney hasn't even started and already you're making pre-excuses. classic behavior.
     
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  30. drakulie

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    Good catch boojay! keep it going!
     
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  31. federerfanatic

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    Already your excuse is lined up.
     
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  32. Nadal_Freak

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    My mistake. I just watched it on tv and it was playing faster. It seemed slow on the computer though. Nadalforever you are correct. Also these clay courts didn't take topspin as well and the slices were staying low. Very different from the French Open.
     
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