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  1. Marius_Hancu

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    OK, so these are Q, thus no chance of being shown on TV:

    First round:
    P. Mathieu (FRA) - A. Popp (GER) 6:2 6:0
    A. Calatrava (ESP) - G. Carraz (FRA) 7:6 (8) 7:5
    T. Ascione (FRA) - K. Kim (USA) 7:6 (1) 6:2
    D. Sanguinetti (ITA) - S. Wawrinka (SUI) 6:2 7:5
    R. Gasquet (FRA) - T. Summerer (GER) 6:1 6:2
    O. Hernandez (ESP) - F. Wintermantel (GER) 6:2 2:6 7:5
    J. Ferrero (ESP) - G. Simon (FRA) 7:6 (11) 6:3
    N. Almagro (ESP) - R. Ginepri (USA) 3:6 7:6 (3) 6:2
    G. Garcia-Lopez (ESP) - B. Phau (GER) 7:6 (6) 6:4
    C. Rochus (BEL) - S. Rieschick (GER) 7:5 6:4
    A. Seppi (ITA) - F. Mantilla (ESP) 7:5 6:1
     
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    Great to see Gasquet and JCF through, JCF through a scare ...
     
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    Federer, Nadal, Agassi: paths

    Draw:
    http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2005/414/MDS.pdf

    Federer: Verdasco (!), Ferrer, Pavel/Guga/Robredo, Coria/Gonzalez/Moya, Agassi/Safin, Nadal/Gaudio

    Coria: Spadea, Youzhnyi, Moya/Gonzalez (!), Federer, Agassi/Safin, Nadal/Gaudio

    Agassi: F. Lopez (!), Volandri, Kiefer, Davydenko/Safin, Federer/Coria, Nadal/Gaudio

    Safin: A. Martin (!), Melzer, Davydenko, Agassi, Federer/Coria, Nadal/Gaudio

    Nadal: Andreev (!), Novak, Canas (!), Stepanek/Roddick, Gaudio, Federer/Coria

    Gaudio: Q, Mirnyi/Costa, Ljubicic (!), Federer/Coria, Nalbandian, Nadal, Federer/Coria

    Roddick: Massu, Karlovic, Stepanek (!)/Haas, Nadal, Gaudio, Federer/Coria

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    Federer and Coria have the toughest path, as they have to play each other in the quarters. At least not Nadal until F:)

    Nadal: Andreev and Canas might test him, but then no one until the final, probably.

    Roddick: good draw, if Massu played as he did this year. Then he needs to get through Nadal in the QF, and that's pretty tough.
     
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  5. Rodzilla

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    I'm predicting Fed/Agassi and Gaudio/Nadal semis with a Federer/Nadal final. I think Safin is getting upset by Martin in the first round. Andy has a chance of going far but he could be tested by Stepanek and then Nadal after that so we will have to wait and see if Roddick is ready to grind.
     
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  6. federerhoogenbandfan

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    Roddick will lose to Massu in the 1st round I predict. If he gets by Massu he might get to his quarterfinal loss to Nadal though. Fed and Coria should play in the quarters, if Coria beats Nadal in the final today he could gain more confidence for that match, it not Fed will probably win if he is not rusty enough to be upset early.
     
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  7. gugafanatic

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    Feds draw is really testing and will give an indication of hes chances at RG.
     
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  8. federerhoogenbandfan

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    Well if he does look to Verdasco I will have very little expectations for him at the FO, since he obviously would be going through a huge struggle on clay if he did lose to him. Like I said Verdasco seems to only be a top 5 player, even on clay, against one one opponent, and that is Roddick. I have never seen him play that kind of tennis against anybody else, not in any of the matches I have seen him anyway, and looking at his record against top players probably not in matches I dont see either.

    Even that being said Roddick should have beaten Verdasco 7-6, 6-3 since he had all those match points in the 3-5 game, and Roddick is not somebody who is a real contender at the French himself, it would be a huge upset if he even made the quarters.
     
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  9. gugafanatic

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    He just took a set off one of the best clay courters in the world (Coria) and has the weapons to humble any top player on clay. Verdasco is a dangerous clay-courter, I can assure you this wont be easy for Fed as Verdasco is in good form having reached the quarters and has alot of matches under hes belt.
     
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  10. federerhoogenbandfan

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    Well if he was a point away from losing 7-6, 6-3 to Roddick on clay, Fed should win comfortably if he is reasonably ready. Verdasco took a set off Coria? So what Fed took 3 sets of Coria and beat him in their only meeting last year on clay, when Coria was playing much better than he is now.
     
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  11. gugafanatic

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    Federer has looked rusty on clay thus far, he stuggled to produce convincing displays against Gasquet, Montanes and Gonzales.
     
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  12. federerhoogenbandfan

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    He lost to a red hot Gasquet in a match he probably should have won with all the match points he had, and a Gasquet not playing nearly as well the next round took Nadal to a tough 3-setter. I dont see how that is behind the 8-ball as much as you would like to believe.
     
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  13. Marius_Hancu

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    I think this is the final Q stage (8 Qs):

    Ferrero b. Hernandez 60 61
    Gasquet b Sanguinetti 61 62
    Rochus b. Calatrava 63 46 60
    Almagro b. Mathieu 62 62
    Ventura b. Garcia Lopez 36 62 63

    thus Gasquet and JCF are in the main draw.

    They will be tough opponents for anyone.
     
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  14. Steve F.

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    Yeah, just saw that. Nice to see JCF and Gasquet made quick work of it. Mathieu must be sweating his Davis Cup chances. Looks like Sanguinetti left it all in Rome...
     
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    Gasquet is a possible and very likely 2nd round opponent for Roddick. Ferrero is playing Jurgen Melzer first round and possibly can play Safin in the second. Agassi also has to watch out for Almagro in the second round.
     
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  16. Marius_Hancu

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    Fed's on tomorrow!!
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    Center Court starting at 11:00 CEST

    Mario ANCIC (CRO) vs. Florian MAYER (GER)
    followed by
    Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER (GER) vs. Nicolas KIEFER (GER)
    followed by
    Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs. Fernando VERDASCO (ESP)
    followed by
    Nicolas MASSU (CHI) vs. Andy RODDICK (USA)
    followed by
    Tim HENMAN (GBR) vs. Lars BURGSMUELLER (GER)

    Court M1 starting at 11:00 CEST
    Greg RUSEDSKI (GBR) vs. Philipp PETZSCHNER (GER)
    followed by
    Joachim JOHANSSON (SWE) vs. Sebastien GROSJEAN (FRA)
    followed by
    Andrei PAVEL (ROM) vs. Gustavo KUERTEN (BRA)
    followed by
    Alexander WASKE (GER) vs. Tommy ROBREDO (ESP)

    Court M2 starting at 11:00 CEST
    Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG) vs. Thomas JOHANSSON (SWE)
    followed by
    Richard GASQUET (FRA) vs. Ivo KARLOVIC (CRO)
    followed by
    Ivan LJUBICIC (CRO) vs. Luis HORNA (PER)
    followed by
    Jürgen MELZER (AUT) vs. Juan Carlos FERRERO (ESP)

    Court M3 starting at 12:30 CEST
    Gaston ETLIS (ARG)
    Martin RODRIGUEZ (ARG) vs. Jonathan ERLICH (ISR)
    Andy RAM (ISR)
    followed by
    Mariano HOOD (ARG)
    Julian KNOWLE (AUT) vs. Cyril SUK (CZE)
    Pavel VIZNER (CZE)

    Court M4 starting at 11:00 CEST
    Karol BECK (SVK) vs. Mikhail YOUZHNY (RUS)
    followed by
    Santiago VENTURA (ESP) vs. Christophe ROCHUS (BEL)
    followed by
    Radek STEPANEK (CZE) vs. Cyril SAULNIER (FRA)
     
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    Gasquet vs. Karlovic
    now that's something!!
     
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  18. VictorS.

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    Wow, that's some quality tennis for qualifying rounds. Gasquet, JCF, Almagro, Mathieu....
     
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  19. gugafanatic

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    Chela is having a dissapointing season thus far. You would expect him to produce some good results during the clay sourt season.

    I dont think KARLOVIC is a threat on clay, he is not a great mover and will stuggle to serve volley consistantly.
     
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  20. Vlad

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    Gasquet will thrash him..
     
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    Very probably, but will still be a show, that's what I meant:)
     
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  22. VamosRafa

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    From what we understand, Nadal is going to Hamburg tomorrow. And will decide once he gets there whether he's fit to play.
     
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  23. gugafanatic

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    Great news. Nice to see Nadal sitting on the fence and waiting to see how the body repsonds after that bruising 5 setter. If he skips Hambug then hes my favorite for RG.
     
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  24. verdasco67

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    ferrero vs melzer should be good....if melzer is on his A-game....my prediction: ferrero in straight sets.
     
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  25. gugafanatic

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    Verdasco is a set down, but hitting alot of winners. Fed is serving well from what I can see.

    Rusesdki won in 3, and is likely to play compatriot Tim Henman in rd 2.

    Chela finally got a win, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4 against T. Johannson.

    JJ miserable run on clay continues. 6-4 in the second vs Grosjean.

    Guga on court lets see what he can do today!!
     
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  26. gustavo33

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    guga is ripping those BH
    6-2 in the 1st set
     
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    3-0 guga in the 2nd set
     
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    COMEON ON Fire!!!!!!!! When he is on, he can simply crush opponents with such ease
     
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    guga´s BH is just amazing today

    GAMES SET MATCH KUERTEN
     
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  30. gugafanatic

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    gustavo33 what was the difference between hes play today and previous matches against Henman and Ancic??
     
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    i didnt watch those matches.. so i cant really tell
    today, he was very agressive from the baseline...
    made some good volleys.. i was very impressed with that
    BH was plain amazing.. DTL and CC.. he just ripped...
    his FH started slower but caught up.. he hit some great FH winners in the end
    and served very well
     
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    a-rod loosing to massu.....6-7 1-2
     
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    ARod recovered from 52 in the 3rd. Good fight.
     
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    It's now 5-5 in the 3rd.

    r,
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    Massu broke again Roddick at 65 and won.
    Massu certainly played with great ambition this game.

    ARod's half it's even easier, if that's possible.
     
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    Well, Massu played better than expected from his form this year. ARod couldn't use this great draw he had, esp as Nadal's supposed to not play.
     
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    Make it Massu. Tough match for Gasquet, with a very experienced player.
     
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  38. andre'smom

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    I am glad for Massu...I think his injuries are behind...
    keep it up kid!!!!!!!
     
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  39. federerhoogenbandfan

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    The Massu vs Roddick was a toss up, that match could have gone either way going in, in my mind. I knew if Fed was healthy he would take Verdasco pretty comfortable and he did. No real surprises so far. Smart for Nadal to pull out.
     
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    D. Ferrer 2 6 3
    T. Berdych 6 2 6

    Very good result for Berdych.
    Fed has been waiting for him since Athens.
     
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  41. federerhoogenbandfan

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    I predict sweet revenge for Fed. He will learn what it is like to face a fresh Federer, something he did not face at the Olympics.
     
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    It would be very irnic if federe loses to tomas
     
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    I wanted to see Federer play Ferrer just to see Cliff Drysdale's head explode when he tries to pronounce their names. I think he would just say Roger and David!
     
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    Agassi: out!!

    Not a big surprise, as F. Lopez is quite good (even if not so this year)

    F.Lopez 6 7
    A. Agassi 2 6
     
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    Spadea out too

    News:
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    Coria, the 10th seed, thrashed American Vince Spadea 6-0 6-2, showing no sign of tiredness after his five-hour defeat by Spanish teenager Rafael Nadal in the Rome Masters final on Sunday.
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    Good result for Coria.
     
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  46. YEMntFtb

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    Lets go Coria - What do you guys think, Safin wins in 3 against Martin? Gasquet in 2 against Massu....?
     
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  47. Vlad

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    Marat Safin beats A. Martin 6-1, 6-0.... according to viewers, Marat played superb tennis...
     
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  48. gustavo33

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    marat looked scary
    hitting winners from both wings...
    very dominant perfomance... the best i´ve seen him play since Aus Open...
     
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  49. Grinder

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    I'm really looking forward to Kuerten/Robredo and Massu/Gasquet. Guga's game is so unpredictable at the moment. We'll also be seeing a rematch from Athens where Berdych upset Federer. I think Federer will come out early and annhilate Berdych as revenge for depriving him of Olympic Gold. Another good match is Juan Carlos Ferrero/Marat Safin, this is also tough to predict. If Safin plays like he did against Martin he shouldn't have to much of a problem against Ferrero. You never know with Safin though. A battle of two former Roland Garros champion is also going on tomorrow with Albert Costa vs. Gaston Gaudio. These are some really tough matchups for the early rounds.
     
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  50. grif

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    That is a shock. Has there ever been a more unpredictable player than Safin ?
     
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