Has anyone on the board learned to hit 130mph serves?

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  1. kiteboard

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    Just curious, if anyone posting can hit 130+. If so, how did you learn to do it?
     
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    The biggest I can hit is 123 mph, I am 6'4" but only 150 lbs. This is not something you learn, you just have to have a live arm, great timing, a lot of leg power, a decent amount of muscle and perfect form. It is the same as a regular serve you just have to dig deep, most people will never reach the 130s no matter how hard they try or train.
     
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    I totally want to be able to...
     
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  4. badmice2

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    I've came close, but not on a tennis court - 128 MPG (in a cage environment). I've done 125 on court. And like someone said already - perfect form is a must.
     
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    Is this a test to see how many VIs we have?
     
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    I would suggest to add the requirement for all of those buffs that hit 115/120 and above TO POST A VIDEO!
     
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    I'd be glad to be able to break 110.
     
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    Agreed. Funny thing, a lot of people that state they can his these serve speeds are people only playing for about 2-3 years.
     
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    Normally I can hit +130MPH no problem, but everytime I am being filmed something happens that I start serving at 75MPH, I think is the camera...
     
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    i can serve 130 but i'm in canada so it's 130km/h :-D
     
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    I've heard that you'll look 10 pounds heavier, your voice will sound similar to one of your parents, and it WILL take 50% off of the pace of your serve.:)
     
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    I taught my first son to hit 130+ and he did it several times winning fast serve contests and clearly in most of his matches with his aces often punching thru the back fence. Once we played together in Open doubles against a former pro, so recently off the tour that he was still ranked well inside the top 200. Quite a small crowd showed up to see the pro's big serve in action, as the word was out about how he was lighting up folks in the earlier rounds. His serve had been clocked in the 130s on tour in the year preceding. After the match, most of the folks were coming up to me to say they came to see the pro serve, but that my son had stole the show with a bigger serve and better placement.

    Anyway, we trained his serve by modeling on the Sampras serve for form and focused on hitting perfect slice second serves for all serves from ages 10-13, avoiding the slam 1st serve, push the second routine. This slice second serve approach gave him a super foundation to build on as he learned to bring more power with a deeper racket drop/delayed elbow extension as he moved into the 14s. We also used the towel swing training aid quite a bit along with warming up with high tosses with the football.
     
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    Buffs? Tatiana Golovin hits 115/120 in matches. I was at IW a few years ago and was standing right next to her court (outside court) and she blew away a double specialist (playing singles) with her serves. The radar showed her consistently serving 115/120 mph and at ground level, where I was standing they looked legitimate. Wiki list her at 5'9" but she seemed smaller than that but what do I know.

    My serve is about 30-50 mph underhanded.
     
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    Ok, so some of the touring pros like Nishikori or tommy Robredo ranked top 100 cant' hit that serve then what are the chances of us doing it.
     
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    They are small though, there are plenty of players ranked in the 500s that serve faster than they do
     
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  16. kiteboard

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    Best answer in the thread.
     
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    do i get a prize? :)
     
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    Just because it agrees with you.

    I personally have been clocked at 127 mph. I would love to post a vid of me serving all out, but I don't have the time to do this. I actually have somewhat of a social life.
     
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    Have you seen your post count? :confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
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    per dr.325's request....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T08Nfa0mDpQ
     
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    what do you mean exactly, by delayed racquet drop, and delayed elbow extension? Can you make a drawing and post it? Do you mean, coil the shoulder, and leg drive up while shoulder is still coiled, and then shove the shoulder into a parking meter slot, yanking the toss arm down, shoulders so as to go forwards and upwards, and then bring the elbow up as late as you can, keeping it coiled, and delayed, for as long as you can? It's difficult not to bring it up as you come forward.
     
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  23. tennisnoob3

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    idk...its tennisaddict, ask him. he claims that can go up to 123 mph
     
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  24. mental midget

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    maybe 90mph or so at most.
     
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    I didnt say that video was 123...everyone here needs to calm down. Also that probably was around 80ish, but you can tell from the video I do not attempt to use a lot of racquet head speed. So idk why it is unbelievable that I could go higher
     
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    He didn't say delayed racquet drop - just delayed elbow extension. Makes
    sense, and this is something I've discovered to be a key for a more powerful whip.

    The longer you delay the upswing, the more time you have for the racquet to lag behind into a deeper racquet drop.
     
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    not sure about speed.

    since my serve is 6.0 woman... this one is about 5.0 woman lolol.
     
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    A small handful at most. 130 is some serious oomph. I can hit a big serve, but I think even I would have trouble getting up to 130. That speed would require very solid form, fitness, and practice.
     
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    lol very nice, glad to see someone who isnt bothered by what other people said. I like the new sig btw
     
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    lol, you are not too bad in that department either...

    where in NJ? I am in lower Bucks, maybe we can have a hit some day.
     
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    LOL I am very bad in that department, I have a terrible temper (typical for a serbian lol)

    I live near the Montclair/Caldwell area, if you ever want to hit that would be cool
     
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    going to start a foot fault club and you're invited. :)
     
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    How dare you ask? The answer: four signs, three letters, big l somewhere, big d elsewhere...
     
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  34. TennisAddict121

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    only if the first rule is we can't talk about foot fault club
     
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  35. bad_call

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    HAHA...have to elect members tho cause u know. ;) check out the avatar. not me but the server has both feet in the court before contacting the ball.
     
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    deal. BTW did your sig really happen?
     
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    think so. the thread vanished tho...;)
     
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  38. 5263

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    Nicely stated.
    When the elbow extends earlier in the movement, it will move slower to make the contact timing work out. By delaying, the racket must go farther in a shorter amount of time; which will equal racket head speed when done right.
     
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    I am sorry, did not know Tatiana or a Pro posted in this thread. If I had known, I would have not challenged it.
    On the other hand, any poster buff claiming a consistent 120 throughout the match or a 130 at any time, IN OR OUT OF THE BOX, I would challenge to see the video.
     
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    Something must be lost in the translation here so I'm just going to leave it alone.
     
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    by buff, i think he meant internet buff, not athletic build buff.
     
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    :oops: howd you find that picture of me??? :)
     
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    Do you mean rotating the hitting structure upwards, only after yanking toss arm down and tucking leading shoulder down first, and then rotate the elbow upwards?
     
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    So one guy posting, has learned how to do it? The guy who put up the vid, that serve is about 80mph.
     
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    I'm not sure I can see the picture. Do you have a link with pictures to explain this? I think my best serve is only about 75-80 mph. And I see players with really bad 2nd serves can hit 1st serves pretty fast. Not sure how they are doing it.
     
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    Kiteboard....
    Having faced your serves once in practice, I can honestly say your fastest would fall right around 90 mph with heavy top/side spin, sometimes top/top, sometimes top/twist.
    So if you flatten it out, you'd get an easy 120, which might not be fast enough to bother anyone you play unless you have great placement when you need it.
    That's why you chose to hit it slower, but get it in 65% the first time.
     
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    Josh radared me a couple days ago, at night, and got 86-88-91mph with a slice wide, and 103-105-106 with a flat serve dtm. Not so good. It would be a real dream to hit 130, but it's out of reach. I don't have the right technique. Not enough stick speed, or whip. My stick mass is 360g, and my string was gut/og micro, so that was not it. I just cannot do it yet, if ever. No leg drive, and am not delaying the elbow. Destroyed the doubles competition with it, though, as they were only 4.0s. My return was killing them as well, and I came into net off it, after blasting 80mph bh returns at the net man, and on rushing listed 5.0 guy, who is really a 4.0. I am an all courter, with aggressive returns, used as approaches, poach/fake well, and can serve/volley or stay back and blast off the ground, but, the serve is not going to cut it against 5.0s. You faced my serve years ago, but it's not much better now. Very hard to change an old stroke.
     
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    I wonder if your "flat DTM" is still highly spun.
    Did it really go "POW", or did it pow with a hiss?
    Most players can add easily 30 by flattening out their fastest spin serves, if the flat is pure "POW" with no hissing sounds.
    And isn't your second serve very similar to your first? That would mean you should be able to increase the first flat speed by quite a bit.
     
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