Has Djokovic underachieved at the Australian Open?

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  1. Mainad

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    Of course he didn't say it to his face. Fed isn't that crass! He said it in an interview he gave to the press on the eve of the match.

    Maybe, but I have a feeling he got to hear about it .Someone from the press may even have quoted Fed's words back to him at the pre-match interview. It would be quite in character for them to do so, after all.
     
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    Not sure whether you are trolling chico here but if you aren't, an illogical post and you will realize it if you read some literature related to doping. :neutral:
     
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    2010 Federer would have smoked him.

    2009...lol he lost to Roddick.....I doubt he would beat Federer,Djokovic.

    2014.....he could have won it but he didn't.


    It just like saying Federer could have 6 FO if there was no Nadal, or he could have won 2001-2004 FO if he were his 2006 self.

    Djokovic has overachieved at the AO.
     
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    You think Fed after being tired after Tsonga bothered by Courier in interview is such an evil genius that he contemplated the possibility while tired and out of breath that the press might tell Murray and that Murray might be bothered and play worse? That a 15 GS champion isn't confident enough to think he can beat 0 GS champ without some help and cheating?

    And why doesn't Fed do that with other guys who are much more threat to him? It would make more sense for Fed to try this vs Nole and Rafa, since they are a bigger threat and knows he isn't he favorite today.

    If he were to try such things, why would he do it vs a guy who isn't that big of a threat to him?

    Also, if you think Fed is like that, why stop here with Murray? Why doesn't he do this stuff consistently vs everyone all the time even during matches?

    I think Fed is too arrogant for gamesmanship. He believes that the match is on his racket vs anyone, so he believes he doesn't need to do it.
     
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    Is it a fact or an opinion?
     
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    Djokovic has underachieved at the Australian Open.
     
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    Did you read the comment to which I responded?! Like begets like. That's all!
    Of course I didn't actually mean what I wrote in that post ;)
     
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  9. Mainad

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    Here is what he actually said:

    "Federer put some effort into psyching Murray out before their 2010 Australian Open final.

    “I know he’d like to win the first [Grand Slam title] for British tennis in, what is it, 150,000 years,” Federer joked in a post-match interview. “The poor guy has to go through those moments over and over again.”

    Federer went further, toying with Andy. “It’s always very tactical against him. Andy, if you’re listening to me, here’s how it will go. I’ll come in on your backhand and you’ll pass me. I’ll drop-shot you and you’ll lob me. I’ll hit it between the legs. It will be something like that.”

    “He’s in his second Grand Slam final now. I think the first one’s always a bit tougher than the second one, but not winning the first one doesn’t help second time around. He’s also playing me, someone who’s won many Grand Slams and been able to win here three times. I know what it takes and how to do it, which is definitely an advantage.”

    “I don’t feel like the pressure’s really on me having to do it again, because I’ve done it before. I think he really needs it more than I do. I think the pressure’s big on him. We’ll see how he’s going to handle it. It’s not going to be easy for him, that’s for sure.”


    See this and other snide comments he made about Murray over the years. Clearly he must have been a bit wary of him or, as you say, why would he bother?

    http://www.dropshotdispatch.com/2011/11/20/top-10-roger-federer-verbal-jabs-at-andy-murray/
     
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    Are you saying that Novak has not underachieved at AO? A player of his calibre should have had at least 14 AO titles by now. :twisted:
     
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    Djokovic has underachieved at the Australian Open.
     
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  12. serbiavic

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    What do you think?
     
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    Of course Nole has underachieved at the AO, without a doubt! Why wasn't he winning it in 1995, when he was 7 years old and why hasn't he won it every single year thereafter?? He's been so unlucky not winning it since '95!!!
    [​IMG]
     
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    Perhaps not in terms of titles but in terms of consistency I'd say he has. Surprisingly, he's reached at least 7 semifinals at the other 3 majors but the 5 finals he's reached at the AO were the only times he got past the quarters there. His losses to Roddick and Tsonga in recent years were disappointing to say the least.
     
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  15. Murrayfan31

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    Underachieved at the US Open. If only they switched to a heavier ball.
     
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  16. La_Para

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    Interesting question, and one that crossed my mind several times.
    Of course he won in 2010 and lost in 2009 but does that really mean he was worse in the latter?
    He lost against Nadal but the rallies, and his groundgame as a whole, was out of this world. And that against an opponent that has historically always troubled him.

    His serve was subpar during that final but he was in great form during that tournament, and the rallies impressed me more than in 2010 . In 2010 he faced Murray who historically hasn't posed as much of a problem to him as Nadal, especially in slams. While he looked good I don't have the feeling he reached the heights of the previous year where groundstrokes are concerned.

    Concluding, in 2009 he lost against a VERY troublesome opponent in the final, his kryptonite, and still produced a five set epic. In 2010 he faced a far less troublesome opponent and won in straight sets. Now, this doesn't necessarily mean he was better in 2009 then in 2010 or vice versa, but I tend to be more impressed by what he showed in 2009.
     
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    This is the big anomaly, and something that must be addressed this year.
    His AO record is as close to complete as it could be.
     
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    He's won 5 titles there already. If he never wins another I will believe he underachieved but as far as I'm concerned he will win another 1-2.
     
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    Fed fans still going to this thread to say he nole is forever young, spritely and fortunate like satan. Of course, choir boy Roddick didn't troll when he said Novak won countless Aussie opens. So Bitter that Nole didn't quit tennis.
     
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  20. Djokodal Fan

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    One slam he has under achieved is the US open. I'm ok even if he doesn't win any more AO titles. But I see him winning atleast 1 or 2 more at Melbourne
     
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  21. mattosgrant

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    This title is pretty much a joke. I mean he could have played better in 2009 or 2010 but Nadal in 09 or Federer in 2010 were unlikely for Djokovic to have beaten, particularly not being the player he is today, and not playing as well in 2009 and 2010 in general as 2008 and 2007. He had 3 matches with Wawrinka that all could have gone either way and prevailed in 2 of 3, when it could have easily been 2 of 3 the other way. He got himself well down to Murray in the early going of the last 2 finals he has played, and came out the victor in both. His semi with Murray and final with Nadal in 2011 both could have gone either way. I wont say he is lucky to have 5, he earned each one, but if anything it is the absolute max he could have now, and made him the Australian Open GOAT already, with the possability of still winning more.

    The Australian Open and Wimbledon are 2 places it is borderline laughable to even suggest Djokovic UNDERachieving. The French and U.S Opens are a whole other story. You could make a real case there.
     
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  22. Djokovic2011

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    @mattosgrant: it was in 2012 that Djokovic beat Murray and Nadal in back to back matches, not 2011. ;)
     
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  23. mattosgrant

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    Sorry, thanks for the correction. Both matches were incredible though.
     
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    This was a 2014 trash thread before Novak put the queen crown on fed at Wimbledon twice.
     
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