Has Novak's personality matured?

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  1. walkman

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    Or have his sports agents just made him hide it?

    Not trying to flame him, just honestly asking. I've tended to avoid his matches going back to the row with Andy back at the US Open where it seemed he loved to dish it out, but couldn't take it.

    But if he can continue the level of play he had in this tournament, he's going to become impossible to ignore if one wants to watch tennis.

    I'd much rather watch someone like-able, especially if their game is more methodical like Novak, Nalbandian or Davydenko. I'd watch a bad boy if they had something special to their game like McEnroe (even though he was before my time), or Agassi during the years when a lot of people didn't like him.
     
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  2. Sid_Vicious

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    I think Novak is a pretty cool guy. eh wears nipple tassels and doesn’t afraid of anything
     
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  3. niff

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    Hopefully he copes with this victory better than the last. No more books, Djok.
     
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  4. AM95

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    sure. it has to have. but we will see what he/his camp starts saying in a few weeks.
     
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  5. Gorecki

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    i believe he did. i can now apreciate his tennis beyond his minor antics.

    his camp however, we must wait and judge after the dust has settled
     
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  6. dlk

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    Yes he's matured & starting to peak.
     
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  7. NamRanger

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    I think that with his maturity has come a new sense of focus. Last year was interesting because his serve was so bad, and yet he was able to maintain a top 5 spot despite of that. So far this year his serve is solid, and his baseline game is absolutely phenomenal.
     
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  8. kishnabe

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    He wasn't a drama queen like in 2008...he was mentally mature and calm around the court! A much better Djokovic!
     
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    His behavior on court last night was a direct reflection of two things: 1) He was playing a close friend and he was not going to be in your face about it, especially when it became so obvious that Murray was just a mess out there and 2) his second slam was right there for the taking so he put his head down and stayed focus on that result.

    He may have grown up and matured as most people do during their twenties, but I'm pretty sure he'll be the same old fun/passionate/emotional Novak in other ways.
     
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  10. MichaelNadal

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    I couldn't stand Novak till 2009. His behavior was just too much for me.
     
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  11. kishnabe

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    My dad get pissed off about Djokovic...but trully he loves the guy. The Drama he brings just makes it more entertaining. However that cost him some matches and it helped in a few matches( I.E Aussie Semi 2008 and US open Quarters 2008). SO are you saying that Djokovic got less emotional in 2009!? This tournament he seemed more intune and less in your face!
     
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  12. tlm

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    Yes the joker is a good guy.
     
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  13. MichaelNadal

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    Not really less emotional, just less of a cocky a-hole. He is a fun guy off court and the clown of the ATP, just a cool guy these days.
     
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  14. DragonBlaze

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    What cocky things did he used to do? Genuine question cause I don't remember.
     
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    I have this same problem... :oops:
     
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  16. Kwanfan

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    Me, too. i always thought he's a good, funny, loving guy...what did he say or done?
     
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  17. walkman

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    It goes back to the 2008 US Open. He was a media darling prior to that for his imitations of other tennis players.

    Before his quarterfinal match against Roddick, Andy made an attempted good natured joke about Novak's 16 injuries. Turns out Novak liked to make jokes at other expense but took offense when the tables were turned.

    He clearly had a grudge during the match against Andy and after a close win took the opportunity to attack Andy during the court side interview. The crowd promptly and enthusiastically booed him off the court reminiscent of Hingess match at the French Open against Steffi.

    That incident along with his penchant to bounce the ball 20-30 times before key points, reports of his entourage not getting along with the other players, and the arguably boorish behavior in his box caused him to lose fan support.


    I think people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that it was a matter of being a teenager and very involved parents. But still, quite in contrast to how Nadal handled himself at the same age.
     
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  18. Terre Battu

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    Novak showed some great class at the trophy ceremony! I like him even more now.
     
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    You think it was good natured joke? If you remember how harsh those TV commentators and fans were on him those days, especially before the match, you can't say like that as if it was just his overreacting. Yeah, there was misunderstanding between Nole & Andy, but people loved to make a big deal out of it. And Andy should've known how it would pan out.

    As for the second bolded part, where did you get that? I've never heard about it. :confused:
     
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  20. okdude1992

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    agreed it was pretty uncool of andy to call him out like that. not funny at all.
    he really instigated the incident. but djokovic was not smart to bring it up in that on court interview.
     
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    The whole thing with his parents and him being "The New King" didn't help either.
     
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    Yeah, that was not a "good natured joke". Andy totally called him out in a mean-spirited way (his usual MO) and IMO Novak had every right to defend himself. Unfortunately the NYC audience didn't seem to think so.

    IMO, Novak has been unfairly maligned for a lot of really minor things. His parents wearing a shirt with his picture on it? What is so wrong with that? I think its kind of sweet. If it was the Nadals doing this everyone would be fawning "oh, look how close Rafa is to his family, look how much they love him", blah blah blah, puke.

    And if players had a problem with him mimicing their antics, then these self-important *****s need to get a sense humor and laugh at themselves for once.

    I doubt Novak has really matured (I don't say this as a bad thing because I quite like his goofy personality). I think he is just much more careful about the things he says and does. I am guessing his media people have set some ground rules for him.
     
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  23. Lemoned

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    He also admitted it was one of the worst things he'd ever done in his career and had to pay the price with four consecutive loss to him.
    Hope they don't make the same mistakes this time.
     
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    I always considered Nole a lovable goofball and felt after the Roddick incident he was just basically unjustly heckled into his shell and as a result he's trying to hard to make everybody love him. Glad he's now mature enough not to care about stuff like that anymore, that lets his true g00d-natured personality shine.
     
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  25. Raoul_Duke

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    That is truth, Novak reacted without thinking about consequences. But Andy was way over the line.


    @walkman

    Novak get along very well with many players on tour. I don't know where did you get that information.

    Novak is outgoing, cheerful guy, always there for the fans and friendly towards his colleagues.
     
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  26. Sid_Vicious

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    Actually, the audience were offended because of the way Novak defended himself. Rather than keeping the focus on Roddick, the guy who made the comments, Novak blamed the whole crowd for believing that he fakes his injuries. Of course the crowd would be pissed, majority of the fans at the stadium probably didn't even know what Roddick said in the press.

    Novak just didn't think it through. That is why he was apologetic at the press conference after the match.
     
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  27. Lemoned

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    I'm not sure how many of them knew the incident before the match, but the atmosphere was kinda crazy that night. The crowd cheered for his double faults and errors like they do in a DC tie. (I don't think it's all about Andy being their favorite.) It was almost like the whole world was against him. No doubt the way he dealt with the situation was wrong, but I could understand his feeling to some degree. Imagine what kind of thoughts crossed his mind throughout the match.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that Nadal's family would never do that - maybe that's the difference. Although I could see Sharapova's or the Williams' dad doing it and you might be right about how the commentators would react in those cases.


    About Novak, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and forget about those past instances. Nobody becomes a champion without some hard edges somewhere in their personality. The way he played down under he looks like he may get some more slam victories this year.
     
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  29. YodaKnowsBest

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    That was the second part of the interview when he mentions the crowd. In the first part they already booed him for defending himself. Here is the interview:

    First part

    Interviewer: The first 2 sets you came out smokin and then what happend in the 3rd set? I thought it might just be 3.

    Djokovic: Well, obviously you know Andy was saying that I had 16 injuries in my last match. Well obviously I don't right?

    Crowd: Booooo I'm a ****** Booooo


    Second Part

    Djokovic: I mean like it or not its like that.
    Interviewer: This crowd loves you, you know. You can turn them against you really fast.
    Djokovic: Well I know they're already against me because they think I'm faking everything, sry

    Crowd: BOOO
     
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