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  1. njboy

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    When can I play again?
    Wait until totally pain free?
     
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  2. Lukhas

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    1) Wait for one month or two, ask your doctor he will be able to tell you when it's fine to play again.
    2)When you come back, comfortable strings. Gut, Dunlop Silk, Technifibre NRG²/TGV, ect.
     
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  3. USArmyTennis

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    What racquet, what string, and what is your skill level?
     
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  4. njboy

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    Thanks

    Already stopped playing almost 2 weeks. But still painful.
     
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    Not only should you not be playing but you should not be posting here. Using a keyboard excessively has been shown to be a poor prognostic sign for TE and can impair healing.
     
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  6. Chas Tennis

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    Search for recent long TT threads on TE especially those with the CharlieFedererer tables that show healing times. Two weeks is not nearly enough time.

    If you have a one hand back hand search TW for the Knudson research on TE involving wrist extension for the proper backhand and wrist flexion for increasing risk of common tennis elbow. I've posted many times.

    Unfortunately, simple healing times are more appropriate for a new acute injury. Most players try to see how they do for some time after a new injury before quitting. What is the history of your injury?

    I read that stressing an acute newly injured tendon for a very short time can lead to tendinosis or defective healing. [Tendinitis involves inflammation and tendinosis involves defectively healed tendon.] After I read that - 2-3 weeks after a new acute GE tendon injury - I took 3 months off from tennis and other stress to heal. It healed. That is not to imply that my healing time was the right thing to do. See links in Reply #1 and #15.
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=442912

    One very positive note, a player that I know, who had to quit tennis with chronic TE about 15 years ago, just rejoined out tennis club. I'll be very interested to see what he did, how his elbow is, and how he is able to play.

    Stop playing and find a well qualified sports medicine or orthopedic Dr.
     
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  7. El Diablo

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    How's that for good news!! The guy rejoined the club a mere 15 years later!
     
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  8. BreakPoint

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    It can take up to 6 months of total rest for tennis elbow to fully heal. I know because I've had to go cold turkey for that long several times for my TE to fully heal.
     
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  9. njboy

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    Sorry

    I mean two months.
     
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  10. BreakPoint

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    Did you not play AT ALL for those two months? Because you have to not play AT ALL for 6 months for it to heal. But in the worst cases, it could take even longer and if it's really bad it could never heal and may require surgery. Sorry to give you the bad news.
     
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    At least didn't play 6 or 7 weeks.

    When I felt my elbow was in trouble, I stopped play about 2 weeks. Then I resumed and played 2 hours and finally broke it.

    Then I stopped 6 weeks to now. My question is to what reheal level, I can resume play?

    Today I tried 15 minutes pure forehand with wall.
     
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  12. Chas Tennis

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    What do you mean by "broke it" ?

    Where exactly is the pain?

    You should see a Dr.
     
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  13. njboy

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    I mean TE.
     
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  14. Chas Tennis

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    I don't understand.
     
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  15. njboy

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    Finally got TE and can't play.
     
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  16. Chas Tennis

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    What does "broke it" mean?

    Where exactly is the pain?
     
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  17. njboy

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    The pain is at outside of elbow.

    By "broke it", I mean I can't play any more with this level of pain.
     
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  18. Chas Tennis

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    How does your current injury relate to this injury in your Golfer's Elbow thread of August, 2012?

    How did you do with that injury?

    There are many elbow injuries besides GE & TE. How are you diagnosing what you have?

    Are you an adolescent who might have special growth related issues?
     
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  19. RogueFLIP

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    If you can, I'd suggest you get some physical therapy.

    Get the arm treated by a professional if it doesn't feel better after 2 months of rest.

    Hope is not a method.
     
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  20. njboy

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    I don't know. I didn't have any TE sign before. I pay full attention to my slight ge. But just one weekend overplay, I got TE and didn't recover in 2 months.
     
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  21. njboy

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    It is better but not recover in two months.
    I am following some YouTube clip to do the therapy. Also bought red and green flexbar.
     
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  22. charliefedererer

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    It takes a long time for tennis elbow to heal.

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    This seems really puzzling to most.

    That is because in their experience, most other conditions they have had get better much faster.


    But most have not had tendon injuries before.

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    While tendons are strong, they heal very slowly.


    The way they heal is for the body to lay down protein strands into the areas that have the small tendon tears that comprise tennis elbow.

    Those protein strands look a lot like the similar flimsy strands that make up a spider's web.

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    Like a spiders web, those strands are easy to break with any movement.



    It is only over many weeks that those strands are bound together - just like the many strands in a rope or cable are bound together to form one strong rope or cable.

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    The problem is that with early movement, the ends of the tendon pull apart again, tearing the fragile protein strands.

    The body has to start over again.



    So stick with the red Flexbar for a fairly long time.

    Indeed, if it hurts to use the red Flexbar, you should hold on even using this for now.

    The idea of using the Flexbar is to do just enough movement that the new healing tissue won't "stick" to adjacent muscles or tendons - but instead glide smoothly past one another.



    The place for the green flexbar is for when you can easily work with the red one and have no pain.


    So pain will be your guide to whether the inflammation is subsiding enough to move on to the next step.


    Don't go back to tennis too soon and disrupt all the healing that has already started until you have done the exercises with the green flexbar for a few weeks and the arm has been actually strengthened.



    The above is a best case scenario. Often, progress is more of a two steps forward, one step backward kind of progression.
    Therefore, many do better with the guidance of a therapist.


    I do hope you are better "soon" - but realize with this process that soon is still likely many weeks away.

    It sounds like you love tennis too much to hurry back and then have have to miss even more.
     
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  23. Nostradamus

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    Wait til completely pain free, and you must wear a elbow from then on for the rest of your life or it will come back. Bauerfiend elbow brace look pretty sporty and won't be too noticeable.
     
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  24. njboy

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    ok

    completely pain free when doing what?
    if idle, it is no pain now.
     
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  25. njboy

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    thanks a lot



    I guess I need stick on Red for another month.
     
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  26. Nostradamus

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    Pain free is when you hit the Forehand as hard as you can 10 X in a row and you Feel NO pain in your elbow. That is when it is pain free.
     
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  27. njboy

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    Thanks.

    Forehand is ok.

    I don't have gut to hit any backhand at all. Sadly afraid to make the elbow worse.
     
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  29. TimeToPlaySets

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    What's the update on the recovery????
     
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  30. Alien

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    I kept playing exclusively forehands. Never stopped. The pain receded until I changed rackets to a plushy frame. Then it got better but never disappeared, I resumed playing. It is still there and gets inflamed for a day after I play (before it was three or four days, I couldnt even shake hands). I am now hitting all kind of shots and playing four times a week (but trying to avoid consecutives). I use a brace but no idea if it contributes or not. 7 months have passed, never skipped a single week, it is still bothering after a session but I can certainly play. Moreover my forehand developed into a kind of weapon for my level.

    Not saying this is the ideal path of action, just that it worked for me. Probably wouldnt for the majority of the players. I blame my previous stick Juice 100s so it improved significantly after the change.
     
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