Head Graphite Edge question

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  1. Caloi

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    Local shop has one of these for very cheap.
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    replace ****** with M-E-N-A-C-E no dashes. :rolling eyes:

    This is exactly what it looks like, even though this came from another site....

    The only marks on the frame were the Head, and the Graphite Edge and an engraving on the side of the throat...four numbers, don't remember them.

    I'm going to go buy it today, anything to look out for?

    Bear with me, I'm learning more and more about racquets...total newb if you will.

    Edit again: Appears to be the AMF with the yellow and red stripes, FWIW. Shop opens soon.

    Also, they had a a Wilson Pro Staff "Original" 6.0 racquet cover. I know the racquets have a cult folowing, are the covers worth anything? THis thing looked mint.
     
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  2. plasma

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    graphite edge is a players racquet (performancewise) on par with the f200, R22, pc600, ps 85 and 200g. For some strange reason the 22's and edges only go for $20 or so, even though they offer splendid performance. What a sublime cheap date!!!...like a supermodel at the downstairs bus stop, fiddling with her map, with a puzzled look on her face...about to "check out Plasma's etchings" and sample the most authentic, healthy and sweetest falaffels ever....
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    does this racquet have a US flag near the throat??? pics pls....
     
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  3. Caloi

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    I went and picked it up.

    The ONLY marking is the numbers near the throat 3032 or somethign like that. No stickers anywhere. I took a couple pictures but I'm off to a kid's b-day party. I'll get the photos hosted later. Also, for some reason it has a Prince butt cap and a Babolat leather grip.

    Regardless, for $7.00 it's totally worth it to me.
     
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    i have not had dinner yet. that pic is simply droologenic! getchur hands off my food.
     
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    My old doubles partner played with this frame back when I played with the PK Silver Ace and then the ProStaff. The frames he had were mediums and that thing was a BEAST.
     
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  6. Caloi

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    Well, I never got the pictures hosted last night. After dealing with a kid's birthday party, ten -six and seven year olds running around, screaming...my head was about to explode.

    Anyway, I wrapped the grip last night and am going to try to hit with it today or tomorrow.

    Sounds like I didn't quite find a treasure but found a playable racquet. I'm pretty psyched to go hit it.
     
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  7. plasma

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    as possibly one of the ten greatest racquets ever I think that indeed you did find a treasure...
     
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  8. Caloi

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    I absolutely love this thing! I just got back and still a bit sweaty, so the endorphines are running high at the moment. I've got to tell you, I will be on the lookout for at least one more of these.

    Not sure what strings are in this thing but I was surprised at how well I could get spin on the ball. It really plows through the strike zone and feels very stable! These strings are a light guage black string w/ zero markings. I figured they were old so I'll need to restring it sometime.

    So, back to classic racquet talk, where would I find the stringing pattern/instructions for this racquet?

    Remember this thing has absolutely zero markings on it other than the factory "HEAD" and "Graphite Edge", no stickers, no specs, etc.

    I researched and found it stock at roughly 12.8 oz, I did the balance yesterday on my dining table and came up with 16pts head light. Seemed wrong but measured the balance at 11.5". (13.5-11.5=2/.125=16)Did I do this wrong?

    Last but not least, it's got a Prince buttcap. Not sure why but I guess it doesn't matter much unless they weighted it. i don't have a scale to weight this particular one.
     
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  9. jorel

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    they only go for about $10 on the bay
     
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  10. plasma

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    I TOLD YOU, that you scored!!!
     
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  11. Deuce

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    Is the finish on it matte or glossy?

    One thing to watch out for are the grommets. On these old racquets, the grommets tend to dry out over time (unless they were kept in a humid environment, I suppose...).

    Don't be surprised if the grommets disintegrate and turn to powder when you remove the strings.
    If that happens, you won't find a Graphite Edge grommet strip - so the best thing to do would be to buy a grommet strip for a current racquet (18x20 would be best), and cut the strip into individual grommets.
    It'll be a bit of a pain to string that way - but this is one frame which is well worth any extra effort.
     
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  12. MichaelChang

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    Are you saying you paid only 7 bucks for the edge? damn it. :twisted::)
     
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  13. Caloi

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    That's what I'm saying!

    Finally got a picture this morning.

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    P.S. THanks for the above heads up regarding the grommet strip. I'll keep an eye out if/when I go to restring.

    Now, will this work for restringing this racquet? It's the closest thing I could find to the Edge:

    GRAPHITE MASTER 55 - 72 19'M - 17'C 18M X 19C 9T - 8,10B 9B 9T 6T - 7B

    That came off the Klipper site.
     
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  14. Caloi

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    One quick bump to see if anyone knows if the above stringing method will work on my Edge. I can't seem to find anything specific to the Edge, and the stringing pattern on the racquet looks very strange to me. There are multiple crosses toward the throat, almost looks made up if you will.

    Any insight appreciated!
     
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  15. retrowagen

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    String tension 55-65 lbs., pattern 18m x 19c, start (loop) H, mains skip 9T & 9H, tie off mains 6T.

    or consult http://www.sptennis.com/patterns/FramesHead.html
     
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  16. Caloi

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    Thank you very much. I appreciate that!

    Bookmarked for future reference!

    I can tell you that's NOT what was done to my racquet. :shrug:
     
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  17. plasma

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    this is the "silverback" graphite tour....no twaron like the txe but much stiffer than the edge...
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    81 square inch silverback
    he has no natural enemies, only other marauding males,
    with all the sweatshop models on in the jungle his pride has taken scrapes,
    yet younger bigger males are not quick to challenge him and respect his proven power,
    no soft touchy sensetive side like his cousin the graphite edge
     
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  18. Caloi

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    That thing needs some court rash to be considered a warrior of the jungle. ;)
     
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    And a true warrior would be naked, not wearing something from the "Wilson" tribe:):)
     
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  20. pshulam

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    You got a better bargain than I did. I paid $16 for one. It had brand new string, multi-filament 16g, nevertheless.
     
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  21. Bud

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    Currently, there are a ton of GE's on the market.
     
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  22. Caloi

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    Find me one in playable shape for $20 or less that is not on the bay. I will not pay $15-$20 shipping just out of principle.
     
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  23. Caloi

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    Good point, however this thing came like Frankenstein! It's got a Babolat leather grip, a Prince buttcap...figured a Wilson over gip would round it out nicely. :)
     
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  24. pshulam

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    Good luck in your quest to purchase another one for $7 - $10 range. I got a Wilson Sting from Goodwill for $1.99, but I do not expect anyone from the Classified Ad from this forum or fleabay would offer that price.
     
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  25. Caloi

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    Got one for $10 + $10 shipping. Had we not had a blizzard yesterday it would have probably have been here today. Grrrrrr :evil: It should be here Monday now.
     
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  26. pshulam

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    Cool - good hitting with it.
     
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    I recommend vs gut (even though I can't personally afford it at the moment), a head edge with vs gut feels almost as good as hitting with Anna Kournikova....naked....I say this from experience mind you, vs gut transcends the space time continuum by being stiff when strung softly and soft when strung tightly, effectively redefining everything we know of time, space, love, death and thought itself....
     
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  28. edberger

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    I just scored a Graphite Edge from a local thrift shop for $5! Strung it up with my normal Big Ace/Maxim Touch hybrid and looking forward to trying it out tonight.
     
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  29. edberger

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    wow, i measured mine on a balance board (strung plus overgrip) and got 6 pts HL. that's a big difference! weight was about 355 grams.
     
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  30. pshulam

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    What kind of thrift store? Goodwill? Let us know how you like the racket.
     
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  31. plasma

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    are the matte and the glossy the same? I have a matte strung with vs gut. It plays like a stratocsaster/strativarius. Unfortunately it's 4 1/2 and not 3/8. I tried to get photos of the black vs gut but my camera couldn't zoom in clearly. I bet they're the same or very similar (the matte and glossy), that gut makes a huge playability difference though, now I finally know why "vs gut" picked his pen-name...
     
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    Got it at an Amvets store.

    Just got back from playing a set of doubles with it. Compared to my main stick, the PC600, it was quite a change, mostly because of the balance (6pts vs 9pts) and the increased flex. It's a racket that definitely rewards good preparation and technique. What you get in return is a buttery, yet solid, feel that plows through balls like a sledgehammer. You can generate some heavy groundies and flat serves. I'd say it plays very similar to the Max 200g.

    Best $5 I ever spent!
     
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  33. plasma

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    that's the most accurate description ever. i wish they made an 83 edge in addition to the 81. The 81 is too small and my ps 85 is waay too big. Plasma theory states that every square inch increases grounstroke distance by almost 1 foot. Therefore the 88 feels 3 feet bigger to a high level player, not 3 square inches bigger...
     
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  34. jimbo333

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    Like I've always said, an extra inch makes all the difference:)
     
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  35. pshulam

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    Are we still talking about head size?
     
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  36. pshulam

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    Umm .. I better start improving my technique.

    Thanks for sharing your experience with the racket.
     
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  37. Caloi

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    I was WAY off. I built a balance board this weekend and to the best of my knowledge the specs in my sig are accurate.

    Enjoy the new racquet!

    BTW, how are the grommets? My original that I got from P.I.A.S with the Prince buttcap has perfect grommets. The twin that I just got has very beat up grommets.

    I've got a strip to cut up and will post a detailed step by step when I get around to replacing it.

    Also, do all Edges measure under 27"? #1 is at 26.5+ while #2 is at 26 3/4".
     
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    My GE measures in at 26 7/8". The grommets are probably in 6/10 condition...not surprising for such an old racket. BTW, does anybody know when these rackets were in production? Since switching to Prestiges last year, I've been interested in their heritage...

    Caloi - thanks for starting this post.
     
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  39. plasma

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    some say the head edge dates back 1,100 years to the Mer (Khmer) empire, reliefs found at Angkor Wat seem to support this claim that the Austrians stole what was once an ancient Cambodian battlefield weapon, used to quickly dispatch several adversaries...
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    original graphite edge, circa 900 AD
     
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  40. Tasmanian Devil

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    Swingweight???

    Do any of you want to guess or actually know the sw for the gloss vs. matte?
    I have several gloss models and one matte version. The matte version is by far the most solid & plush racquet I have ever hit with.
     
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  41. Caloi

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    No problem...mine was a true steal at $7.00 for the first one at Play it again, down the street. The second was worth every penny $20 shipped. I am only playing these racquets now.
    No clue as I'm still learning about these racquets, but I'm sure the smart people here could come up with something.
     
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  42. plasma

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    my matte feels very solid and plush as well, wish I could trade it for a matte 3/8! not sure if the playability difference is due to the VS gut; but it does out-perform it's glossy sister...
     
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    I would certainly agree the matte version is better than the gloss, they do seem quite different:)
     
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  44. NoNameZ

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    are there any shared holes when stringing this racket? i couldn't figure it out when i tried to string it.
     
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  45. Caloi

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    There are 12 shared holes; 7,8, 10 H&T. :shock:
     
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    I just got this Special Edition Edge. It's a composite, in the same mold as the Graphite Edge, but a graphite/fiberglass composite. It says it's a medium flex, and 81.1 sq. in. (not 81, but 81.1!). It feels lighter, but does anybody have the specs for the two of them for comparison or know anything about the Special Edition? Thanks in advance to all you Head Edge experts.

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  47. plasma

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    worlds are colliding, 89.5 graphics on an 81??? customized 81.1's...worlds are colliding!!!!
     
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  48. NoNameZ

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    wow... thats a nice stick... where'd you get that baby?
     
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  49. plasma

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    next to Anna Kournikova I have never seen anything so perfect...drool...
     
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    here is mine,got it as a package with 2 woodies of fl**** for $20 shipped
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