Head Graphite Edge question

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  1. Caloi

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    What is that stencil? It inspires me to come up with a bunch of different crop circle patterns and start stenciling my racquets!
     
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  2. plasma

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    wow, that looks like the single grommet (submarine grommet) matte version, the best, the "OG" (original graphite), did the crop circles "just appear"???
     
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  3. Caloi

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    Hard to tell from the angle, but that appears to be a one piece string job! Just like I attempted with my virgin-like franken-grommet stick!
     
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    Sorry do dissapoint you,but its a 50/50 string job,is does kinda look like a one piece from and angle.
     
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    they appeared after i played with a racquet at a local tennis club,i came home and they were just there all of a sudden,maybe aliens are trying to tell me something?

     
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  6. Caloi

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    i like the crop circles.


    I really like my recently acquired Edges. It's the only racquets to see daylight in a few weeks now. Even my rattly, broken-grommet-piece-filled Edge is growing on me. The rattling doesn't bother me at all and it is hitting very nicely with new strings.

    Maybe my next string job I'll take some more time to see if I can extract those broken pieces. Family is out of town in the near future leaving Mr. Caloi home alone for the better half of a month. I'll have some time to kill.
     
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  7. pshulam

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    The spec for Head Graphite Edge:
    weight: 348g/12.28oz
    flex: 44
    Swing Weight: 331g

    The special edition looks really nice and in great condition! I think the spec is similar. Spec is not important. Play with both rackets to compare.
     
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  8. Bud

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    Are you sure the GE is that light, strung? Mine feel heavier than 12.3 oz.
     
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    Bud, I think I need a scale. The Special Ed feels a little lighter to me than the graphite Edge, but that's all I can go on. Seems like it feels heavier to you.

    Pshulam, thanks for the specs.
     
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    it's probably 12.8oz if strung.
     
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  11. Bud

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    So, it's 12.3 oz. unstrung?
     
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    ^I think so.
     
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    how does "special edddy" compare to the edge? I am officially transiitioning to something smaller than the 85's, 600's, true mids. The regular edge was perfect except for midcourt balls, it had no pop on supershort midcourt shot. Must say that my long, even continuous sampras like groundies were perfectly expressed on the edge shape, and my form seemed somewhat controlled and hidden by the pc600 (which is the "War and Peace" of racquets, superb, beyond all other heads, wilsons, great works of lterature,**** the PC 600 is an invention on par with the Cotton Gin, historic)
    My perfect racquet???? I just spent a week saving up for it, 45 bux (thanks to KHW, he and I are like brothers, we've fistfought gangs of large pro fighters in the ghetto; over parking spots with our 89.5's in hand, he and I feed each other info and put "jewels" on each others radar), the txe, I hate that stiff feel, but like with Anna, with the txe I am after her because her external shape attracts me more than the "feelings" I can get anywhere else, Plasma's all about the science of true performance...can the special ed provide plasma the flexebility to be quicker at midcourt and still have the same plough from the backcourt? Will Anna ever stop trying to be so controlling and show more affection to Plasma? it is like a midsize pointing at the moon, try to focus on the braided graphite and you miss all the heavenly glory..
     
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    Nice review. As the OP I've since bought one more and if things go my way will get two more (matte) Monday. :)

    One question, one of my HGE's has a four digit number engraved on the side, all Caps; HEAD. The other I currently have does NOT have the four digit number engraved but is all caps; HEAD. THe two other I am hoping to get Monday both have the numbers engraved, but "Head" not all in caps.

    Why would one NOT have the numbers?

    One last thing, I see Duece told you about the grommet issue. Did you ever replace yours? I did one of mine and after finally getting the new grommets stretched out and shaving the bumper guard down to nothing more than a strip, I am happy with the results. I need to get some pictures uploaded one of these days to share with the group.
     
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  16. plasma

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    I love how you reviewed the "Sound" of the head edge...birlliant. When I joined the forum there was a thread about which racquet makes the loudest "POP"...at the time, I thought it was total bull$hit... Then I start to notice one day that the "POP" on my vintage racquet is much louder and more tempestuous than modern racquets...
    [​IMG]
    I used internal meditative martial arts rebirthing breathing cycyle, co-ordinated with transcendental visualization to go beyond my body and enter the world of where image sound and thought were all one hardcourt extra duty dunlop, humans were tennis balls, foolishly decieved into thinking they controlled their own destiny, swatted around by the loopy invisible strokes of the gods and spirits....
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    I started to slip out of the state and try to use too much topspin and power, but soon returned realizing that the 'POP' was the cause of the power and not the result...my intention and awareness began lead my body so fluidly that time seemed to slow down and happen before itself, the "POP' sound began to appear as ripples in a pond, the ripples became thoughts, the thoughts became feelings, I travelled to the center of the earth and saw a primitive man about to break a head edge on a rock, this really peaceful natural guy wearing these robes told me not to intervene but the skinny aborigonie was about to smash this classic racquet!!!... the dude in the robes had all these people around him and with palms outstrretched; warned me again not to intervene ... with his arms sticking out to the side he was shaking his head to his friends below him; like "don't people usually get it????" he spoke with his heart saying he'd send me back to a physical purgatory where they would never produce a decent true midsize again for the children of Israel, where some children would digitally retouch cracks on racquets that should be cracked anyways; a world where Taiwans are advertised as St.Vincents, a world of undisclosed warps and hairline fractures, shirts made of a million thorns, and only a 30 day phaypal return policy and no re-imbursement for shipping...brutal!!!!
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    I found my forehand in a brown paper bag...within.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhOKhJaM1QE&feature=related
    I just stopped in, to see what condition my St.Vincents, were in....
     
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    Lucky you!

    No idea, really. Just the whim of the manufacturers, I guess.

    Cool. Well, I'm about to do this for the summer. My strings broke last summer, and I went back to my trusty Redondo. But, I'm thinking of stringing with polylon, and one look at my racquet tells me that I'll need to buy new grommet strips, cut them up and use them, as Deuce suggested.
     
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    plasma, that last post was loads of fun! LOL @ "I found my forehand in a brown paper bag"!
     
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    Yay! Two more HGE's are on their way to my house. Should be here in a couple days. Grommets appear to be in good shape, one has no string but I'll get it strung up over the weekend.

    I think I'll be fine with 4. Otherwise I may just have to join the thread about how to stop racquet addiction!
     
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  20. plasma

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    can't wait to heal and try my new main stick (txe). Got punished in the boxing ring for listening to countless coaches and not my own experience and common sense. Got back into a set today with the soft therapeutic kneissl masters 25....drop shotted my friend and then lobbed him on my way to a 6-0 win:
    "It's like watching a meteor hit you car", he said, as the lob sailed perfectly over his head and dropped an inch inside the baseline...
     
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    I decided to test drive the infamous Head Edge when I came across a special edition one, to see if the pop is anything comparable to a Kneissl Lendl Pro (aka Air Rifle) or my gold plated Kalash

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. ipitythefool

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    I just got done playing with a Head Edge! After having played with eons of different racqs., I can most certainly say that this is the best volleying racquet, ever. I have Max 200Gs, SV PS85s and many other classics and new school, nothing can compare to this racquet that I purchased for a ridiculuously low $

    If anyone could please assist, I would like to find out about what this racquet is made up of! The racquet has the MOST DISTINCT POP SOUND that I ever heard! I first thought, the awesomely unique pop sound is due to another element, such as strings...they were plain ol' snythetic gut...then I thought may the ball as I was testing against the wall..nothing wrong w/ the ball...then checked if the tension was too loose on the sweetspot..not that either....must be the racquet...RACQUET FEELS SLIGHTLY RUBBERY TO TOUCH...
    Perhaps it has fiberglass/ceramic or something like that in it? Anyone? Basically I could hit volleys against the wall all day with it, just to hear the tune of this stick.
    The racquet again is HEAD EDGE - SPECIAL EDITION (same as in the pic in the above post) it is in great condition but something written on the side is kind of illegible. I wonder what it said. Pre-play, I thought this racquet is not worth writing a word on it. Never thought I'd be impressed with it. But now I really wanna find out what the key ingredients to this stick!!!

    Are Head Edge players familiar with the distinct pop sound of the racqet that I keep talking about?
    And this racquet serves better than a PS85, imo. If I could get enough practise time (in order for the small (even smaller than 6.0 85) with it (so that small head size do not become a conundrum to my game) I would make this my main stick and stick with it for years to come...O.K, maybe the last part is quite an overstatement (as I cant stick with a stick) but still...I wanna find out more about this racquet.....Any help is highly appreciated!

    EDIT: Should have read the previous posts more carefully! I read about the references to the distinctive pop of the racquet and the reviews! But any more info about my racquet would be appreciated....
     
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  23. Bud

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    The GE is 100% graphite (and fiberglass) :oops:

    I thought It was 100% graphite... my bad :)
     
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  24. jimbo333

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    Head Edge is a great racquet for sure:)

    It's amazing that you've got the same racquet as Gymrat76:)
     
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  25. vsbabolat

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    My U.S. Flag Graphite Edge says: Graphite and Fiberglass.
     
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  26. Deuce

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    On my Graphite Edges, nothing is written about the composition...
    But on my Graphite Edge 2s, it is written: "Exclusive Head Tubular Graphite/Fiberglass Composite For An Engineered Firm Flex."

    And I'm pretty sure that the Graphite Edge 2 is the same racquet as the Graphite Edge - the only differences being the drill pattern, the '2' has a bumper, and, of course, different graphics.
    The two incarnations feel the same to me.
     
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  27. plasma

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    Feelings can be deceptive. According to the Holographic universe they are not just different racquets, but two different uiverses, that in fact...are made up...
    just jerking your chain.
    seriously though, this company was so guarded with its proprietary info. Is "tubular" a ref to a unique process or is it just a fancy metaphor for the mold process that all racquets go thru.
    My Good friend KHW disected an edge 2 due to impaction, when he told me I almost cried. Even after it's burial I argued that that particular edge 2 should have been saved. Graphite Edge remains one of the greatest racquets of all time.
     
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  28. ipitythefool

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    Whoever he is, must know his thang about racqs lol just kidding
    p.s: and what kind of a weirdo would get a nickname like gymrat? hahaha :)


    So, it appears, it is fiberglass that gave that distinctive feel and sound to this racquet!

    To the best of my recollection, I don't think I hit w/ another racquet with fiberglass in the mix, to make a direct comparison to Edge, feel-wise. And one could think (at least me) that, fiberglass would make a less powerful racquet. But Edge most certainly does not play any less powerful, imo, provided one can find the sweet spot.

    I wonder if there is/are any new school racquet(s), with a more generous head size for modern game, that has a feel & the unique pop sound similar to Edge? Vsbabolat, Bud, Duece or Plaz, anyone? It is also possible, not every racq w/ fiberglass may have the unique feel/sound as the Edge.

    Thanks in advance.
    I can stick volleys with my a buck fifty Head Edge all day long, while the Max 200Gs, SV PS85s and Babs are warming up the bag :)

    In my opinion, say, if Sampras opted to choose the Edge as his racquet as opposed to PS85, I think the latter would be a buck fifty and Edge would be the $$ today (Just trying to give an example, arguably speaking, of course Sampras is not the only goat who played w/PS85, so many played w/ it starting with Evert. But was just trying to give an example that, this racq has nothing less than a pro staff or other pro-orinted racqs)
    Btw- were there any past pros who played with Edge?


    Also, I'd like to mention, one advantage I am finding to my game with the Edge is that, the unique feel is helping my game a lot in the sense that:
    I search for the same !POP! every time I hit the ball. So this indirectly translates as trying to find the perfect sweet spot for every shot. When hitting against the wall, I hit back n forth at a much faster pace (and control) than other racqs...after a point I feel like a robot! I think I am a feel addict! :)
     
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  29. Caloi

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    Too funny. I am now up to four HGE's, though only three are in constant rotation. "Number four" had the grommet-ectomy and is in some dire need of some TLC before I'll hit with it again. My frankengrommet job wasn't bad, it is the rattling pieces inside that I can't get out that is driving me nuts.

    Since I've bought mine I've solely used them for all my match play...until this past Saturday. The wind was blowing fiercely and I just couldn't find the sweet spot during warmups. I pulled out my Dunlops and had a fantastic day of tennis.
     
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    you are inspiring Caloi, should we call you egdeman or edgemamster? thanks for reminding us of the greatness of these v8's!!!
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  31. Caloi

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    Naw, I was lucky to have found one in a used sporting goods store and smart enough to post about it here. Something about a blind squirrel or something. :)
     
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    Is the third one along, a Comp Edge?

    I have a couple of different Comp pros, but not the Comp Edge:(

    And what's your opinion of playing with the Comps?
     
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    Yeah, the 3rd one is a Composite Edge.
    I had a couple back in the day. I never really took to them. Kind of a wimpier version of the Graphite Edge...
     
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    personally, I like the Composite Edge slightly more than the Edge. The weight and balance seem to be perfect for my game
     
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    Excuse my ignorance, but does "composite" stand for the 80%graph 20% fiberglass version of the Edge? :)

    Every time I pick up my racquet, it feels like an extension of my arm (among a good 30-40 frames I have) And worst thing about it is, it is not the best racq. to hit 2hbh's with :(
     
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    Anyone answer the 80/20 question? Thanks in advance...
     
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    Well it doesn't say it on the frame itself, so you are relying on someone actually knowing the %composition. I bet Vsbabolat knows, if he sees this, sure he will let you know:)
     
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    Found this old thread. You guys are correct, this is a pretty awesome racquet. I got my hands on one. I want to get another one: is there a difference between the matte and the glossy? (Other than the pj?)
     
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    Other than the look (I have the matt one, which I much prefer), I don't really know - maybe just the next year's model, or something.
     
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  40. Fed Kennedy

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    Dare I say that I like my 20$ graphite edge better than my expensive modern racquets? Perhaps I am just in the afterglow of a good day on court...
    This racquet is also noticeably shorter than a standard. Wierd.
    Also: I can generate heavy topsin with this thing?! Gah. Awesome old school experience.
     
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    IIRC, the matte finish version (the earlier of the two, BTW) had individual grommets. The glossy version used a plastic grommet strip instead.
     
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    *Goes downstairs to check GE*

    Thanks, retrowagan - I hadn't realised there was that much of a difference. Hopefully that means the individual grommets will last a good long time. Mine also has powerpads in the throat.

    *Drools over GE again*
     
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  43. Fed Kennedy

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    Are the matte version individual groms replaceable with those fittex things they sell on TW?
    I have a matte edge in great condition with a few dodgy grommets.
     
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    Email me if you are looking for another. I believe I'm up to four now but one is a 5/8" grip and just doesn't fit my hand well at all. I'll have to check the finish on it though, don't remember if it has the solid grommet strip, which is no doubt in string-able, but rough shape, or if it has the individual grommets. Since I'm not allowed to solicit the sale here we can discuss further in emails.

    Caloi
     
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  45. overrotate

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    I'll dare to agree.:) It has quite a unique feel to it too, buttery smooth in how it cuts the air and at contact even strung high, yet it's always solid.

    Does anyone know if the original Matte Edge came in different weights? I'm curious to know because I have seen some head rackets have a designation like "M" or similar on them somewhere; anyone know what that may be?

    Thanks,
    Brandon
     
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    The M (medium) weight and definitely heavier than the L (light). I've noted it's usually about a half ounce.
     
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  47. MichaelChang

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    Anyone use it in serious match plays? :) Just want to see how the 81.1 head size performs in competitive matches.

    For me the glossy version is a better if you want to keep the racket to use for a long time (it has the grommet strip).
     
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  48. Caloi

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    I use mine in singles. I don't do as well in doubles though with the small head size and weight. Doubles I play my Dunlops.

    I have two with the grommet strip and two with the individual grommets. The original HGE I bought at Play it again sports has perfect grommets...so far. I'm reluctant to do anything to that racquet as I'm afraid the grommets will crack, or even worse disintegrate.

    Not sure what you mean by the strip is "better" then the individual grommets though.
     
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  49. MichaelChang

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    It is because those individual grommets, once broken, are very hard to replace. It may cost you (way) more than the racket itself to replace them.
     
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  50. Fed Kennedy

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    cannibalizing grommets for GEs

    Whats the best grommet strip to get if I want make a new strip for a GE?
     

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