Head Prestige IG MP - mystery numbers?

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  1. wjh546157

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    Just purchased a pair of the new Head Prestige IG MPs yesterday from a private seller at our tennis club - he (seller) said the rackets were the surplus of a 'head sponsored player' (no name given). I noticed a couple of little black stickers on the inside of the frame with matching numbers (B140301) - anyone out there know what these are? I didn't see them on the rackets in the tennis shop ...

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  2. Deodorant

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    You my friend, have found some pretty nice sticks. They are prostock racquets made for sponsored players that most of us can't get.
     
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  3. MarrratSafin

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    You're a lucky man my friend. Enjoy those sweet frames, or sell them for good money!:)
     
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  4. wjh546157

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    Thanks guys - wow - I got lucky I guess - don't think the seller (a mate of the player doing him a favor) knew what he had ... considering I paid $140 per stick - you've made my day!! Got my first play test with them tomorrow - can't wait. Btw, just out of interest, what are they worth roughly (they are absolutely pristine/new/mint)?
     
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  5. dr325i

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    They are nice, but not a gold...
    As the poster below replied, they are worth more than the retail, but not much over $250-300.
    The advantage of them is that they are lighter than the retail allowing for easy customization.
    If you look inside the handle, they probably have silicone in there and there is some lead under the grommets.

    In another thread, I posted that I am really (positively) surprised with the retail IG Prestige MP and would not mind getting one or both of those if you decide they are not for you...
     
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  6. tennisexecutor

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    congratulations on finding the holy grail of tennis racquets. you may not know it or feel it yet, but just by virtue of being near them, your game has been elevated to that of a top 100 ATP pro. that being said, you can easily get $500-600 for each stick if you choose to look back and sink into recreational tennis.
     
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  7. pshulam

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    That's hilarious :lol::lol::lol:

    Who is going to shell out that much cash? Let me guess: collectors?
     
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    There are far too many 'whoosh' moments going on in this thread... :mrgreen:
     
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  9. dr325i

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    no way, maybe for both...
     
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  10. movdqa

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    It could be a PT57A or TGT293.2, right which would mean a big difference in value. Some things you might want to check are the length, static weight and balance. You might check the swingweight too if you have access to a way to do that.

    If they are TGT293.2's (IG Prestige MP Pro Stock), then I'd guess that they're worth a bit more than $300 each.
     
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  11. Fuji

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    If they are TGT293.2's, make sure to sell em off before the next PJ comes out so you get the most of your money! :)

    -Fuji
     
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  12. movdqa

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    Well, that will probably be almost three years from now. The YTs Pro Stocks still seem to be holding their value quite nicely but I don't know how quickly they fade. I think that condition and having more than one help keep up the value.

    People that are new to the market seem to often buy one to try out and then realize that they like it and want a second or third and then find out that they can't get a second or third and then look around for sets or try to figure out how to match another one.
     
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  13. aimr75

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    The black sticker has the code for that particular pro. I assume head uses this code to know what the spec is for that player when setting up any new or replacement frames
     
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  14. JGads

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    OK, I need to ask this, once and for all, because 'pro stock' still mystifies me. I'm eternally confused.

    - Aside from their weights (player specific, right?), do different pro stock frames feel nothing like their retail conterparts because of an entirely different material layup?

    - And will different coded pro stocks feel the same from year to year but just have different paintjobs?, like will a "TGK" Prestige MP feel essentially the same whether it's a Microgel or Youtek or IG painted model?

    And/Or..

    - Is a 'pro stock' frame basically made of the same material as its retail counterpart, but it's simply lighter in its base form to accommodate customization? (example: an IG MP pro stock (before silicone or lead) will feels essentially like an IG MP Retail, just lighter, while a pro stock Microgel will feel more like the retail Microgel MP, only these 'pro stock' counterparts are lighter base-wise but may have silicone in handle or lead up top, but the materials are essentially the same)?
     
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  15. movdqa

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    > Aside from their weights (player specific, right?), do different pro
    > stock frames feel nothing like their retail conterparts because of an
    > entirely different material layup?

    Some pro stocks have a retail counterpart and some don't. The ones with a retail counterpart probably feel a lot like their counterparts with weight in different places.

    > And will different coded pro stocks feel the same from year to
    > year but just have different paintjobs?

    This can happen but I see more where the code is tied to the model and the paintjob.

    > , like will a "TGK" Prestige MP feel essentially the same whether
    > it's a Microgel or Youtek or IG painted model?

    No. I have tgk238.4s which are YT Prestige MPs and tgt293.2s which are IG Prestige MPs. The tgk238.4s have the brassy, harsher feel which many here talk about and the tgt293.2s have the more muted feel that the IG Prestige MP has.

    BTW, the above comments are for Head racquets. I don't have any experience with other manufacturers.
     
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  16. Fuji

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    Just wanted to add...

    My TGK 237.1's feel A LOT flexier/softer then retail Microgel Prestige mids. I've never measured on an RDC to compare, but it's almost firmer in the upper hoop, but flexes like butter in the lower hoop. I haven't felt a stock MGMid do that.

    -Fuji

    EDIT: This could also be how it's leaded up/siliconed. I haven't popped off the grommets to see how **** did it yet. :)
     
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  17. JGads

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    so it kind of sounds like it's a bit of a crapshoot - if you're not a pro player who can specify exactly what you want, one of us buying a leftover pro stock (from string forum or the bay or wherever) frame means buying something that could really feel or play very, very differently, depending on what when into that particular frame, the layup, etc.
     
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  18. Fuji

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    Well it depends on who you buy from. Good sellers will list all specs available and possibly RDC ratings if they can get them. Most sellers who hit with them say Very soft/Firm/Very stiff so it gives some idea as well.

    Blank hairpins are the "best" to buy, but they are the most expensive by far, plus you have to pay for customization if you don't do it yourself.

    -Fuji
     
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  19. JGads

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    ^^
    "blank hairpins" meaning a frame that's bare bones (no silicone or lead added, etc?)?

    hope to hit with a pro stock one day down the road just to see what the fuss is about.
     
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  20. Fuji

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    Yup! Just the very base frame with absolutely nothing on it at all. They would be the best to buy if you have your own specs in mind already.

    Pro stocks are very nice, but I can't justify spending so much on them. I'd love to get a pair of PT57A's one day, but they run like $400+ sometimes and its just too much for me! :razz:

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  21. movdqa

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    In many cases, you're expected to know what the frames play like - the seller may be able to compare them if they have hit with them. So there are sometimes questions as to what they feel like and those that have used them may put in their comments.

    The hairpin doesn't include the pallets/grip either.
     
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  22. Double_Bagel

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    Curious as to if/why hairpin format pro-stocks are worth more? I mean, for a legendary/popular racquet like the Heads/Wilsons then yes, but what about the smaller brands such as Volkl, Donnay, Fischer, Kneissl and so on? Are new pro-stock/hair-pins of those brands worth good money for those too? Or are they worth a minor fraction of what it would be to pay for a Head/Babolat/Wilson pro stock hairpin?
     
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