Head (Prestige) mid history

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  1. vsbabolat

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    The Pro Series is 89.5 sq.inches.
     
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    Excellent info, thanks:)

    So this Head (Graphite Pro mold) was called a "Prestige", 2 years before a Prestige Pro existed, I can see why I was confused!!!
     
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    HAHAHA I bet they could. I bet even Virginia can kick my ass with her 20 ounce Max 200G Pros! :)
     
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    This one...

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    That is the grand father of the prestige. It looks very nice with cap, but it is already too heavy for me at stock configuration. I think it is around 365-370 gram strung without cap.

    The USA version Graphite pro feels very light in comparison
     
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    Mine is 375 grams and 4 pts. HL, strung with the CAP grommets :)

    Even more beastly than the KPS88 I sold recently.
     
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    Hey Tennis man, I have a racquet named Head Comfort Pro. (though there is nothing comforting about it, looks like a PC600) Says vibration-control-system on the side. It is a white colored frame. Would you happen to have any more info on it by any chance? Or perhaps any of your collector friends may have info? Let me know if you wanna see a pic.

    Btw- your collector friends are always cordially invited for a hit session w/ me. Would be happy to hit along with 'em as long as they dont report to court with wheel chairs, or with long Victorian skirts and spaghetti strung woodies :) JK (<-- Jack Kramer)
     
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    I have no idea about this variation. Judging by the name I guess it would be made of at least 50% fiberglass, some graphite and lots of foam injected in the handle. :)
     
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    No no..its all twaron and stuff (I think) there is also a pic of it in jetlee's humangous head collection.

    edit: Here found it http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=239764&highlight=head
    Post numero 5

    Head aficionados...do I have a junk or gold mine? :)
     
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    BAck in the 90s, I have a friend who always buy new rackets everymonth, yonex in particular from BIg5. I never heard the model from any advertising.

    My take is, businesses produce by-products from left over materials, it is profitable because the overhead already absorbed by the main products, and they can sell very cheap.

    I doubt those comfort pro has twaron, fiberglass yes
     
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    No, not fiberglass, I do have an Edge w/ fiberglass, know how it feels. And it is NOT a comfortable frame :)
    p.s: i remember seeing the "vibration-control-system" wording on some other Head racq pics but cant recall which ones...
     
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    you could be right, it might have twaron. I my self never interested on comfort pro, Head has already too many models
     
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  14. vsbabolat

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    Just about every HEAD racquet that was made in Austria between 1985-1991 had for the European Market had "Vibration-Control-System" written on the frames. Some made over to the U.S.

    Here is a Made in Austria For the European Market Composite Pro.
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    As always, Thanks for the clarification, vsbabolat!

    While I got the hold of you, let me ask another question if I may :)

    Along with this frame, also found a Prestige Tour 300 Trisys (MP)
    Identical to a PC600 in looks, though the head size is a good 98sq inches (or more, imo) and says "mid plus" on top of the frame.
    Has the suspension grip (which still seems to be in perfectly working order)

    Could you possibly shed some light about this frame as well, if you may

    And, we know you are a PC600 perfectionist.
    What string do you prefer on it (I know you string at 25kg) and what balance pt? I can sign a confidentiality agreement if you need me to :)

    I feel lucky about Prestige frames these days. Recently bought two made in austria above handle PT600s. No exaggeration, this is the best serving racquet, ever. I could never ace in a whole set with other frames. Now it is normal to pop one or even two within a single game! I am not sure if this is the case with all Prestige Mid racquets. As many people mentioned, there is certainly a power reserve right in middle of the sweet spot. If you find that spot and aim well, it is ace for you, no questions asked. If only it was possible for me to practise 2-3 hrs a day (and thus maximize the racquets pluses for my game, the precision and that sports car nimble drive type feel) I would play non-stop with these! But since I could not, my return and 2hbh are a big liability :(
     
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    The Prestige Tour 300 MP=Prestige Tour 660. The head size on the 660's are 102 sq.inches or 660cm2.

    My top preference for string in the PC600 is Natural Gut. I have also liked some of the high-end Multi like TGV. X-one, NXT. I think a hybrid of gut in the mains and poly in the crosses is a nice combo.

    My balance UNSTRUNG is 31.5cm.
    Some big servers have used the PC600 like Safin, Ivanisevic, Philippousis, Verkerk.
     
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    ^^ Thanks very much indeed!
     
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    lime green caps on a txp looks like Kournikova in a Porsche to the folks on these boards. Don't tease us like that (my heart is still racing a bit)
     
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    I was going to put pink yonex supergrab
     
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    Yeah... are the lime green Prestige CAPs a fashion statement? Did you pull them off a green Prestige?
     
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  22. tandayu

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    yes it is from the grey prestige 600
     
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    I just realized it says "CERAMIC REINFORCED" on top of my Comfort Pro.

    It plays pretty good for a by-product produced from left over materials
    :)
     
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  24. tandayu

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    by-product can be good or bad, depending on the nature of the left over material
     
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    they're different, is that normal?, I mean, one hangs lower than the other...
    ON THE WALL.
    pls,let me explain,
    I have two lime green prestiges (one prostock!) one is marked classic beam and the other is marked constant beam. They're different molds!
    One is like my graphite pros or gold prestiges ( the gold prestige midplus is the first appearance of the word "prestige").
    One grey prestige 600 is meaty (the prostcok)
    the other is identical to a prestige tour in thickness. (noticeably thinner mold!)
    Have I isolated the mutation and evolution successfully gentleman???
     
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    I'm color blind :oops:... I thought the Prestige 600 with the lime green CAP grommets was sea foam green :mrgreen:
     
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  27. vsbabolat

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    I have both Prestige 600 with "Classic Beam" written and the later production writing of "Constant Beam/Classic-Flex". The molds of all of my Prestige 600 are identical.
     
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  28. tandayu

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    same here, looks same mold
     
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    I will not call you color blind, my new p600 looks like dark grey metallic or might call it charcoal metallic
     
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    more pictures added.
     
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    interesting that Tennis Man, KHW and Bud seem obsessed with Head brand. Kneissl was always my obsession. I'd like to find a woman who collects kneissl and ask her to marry me. She can be poor, rich, muslim, jewish, buddhist, a doctor or a store clerk.
    I've had lot's of buttcaps, looking to settle down with a nice fat one...
     
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  34. vsbabolat

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    Forgot to add that all of my Prestige 600 are the same mold as the Prestige Pro.
     
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    Here's my updated Head Pro series collection (2nd row)

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  36. Tennis Man

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    These are all the variations of Prestige Pro (presumably in bottom to top order):

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    anybody knows the history of this beauty?

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  38. vsbabolat

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    The Graphite Tour 600 came out in 1993. In the U.S. it was called the Trisys 270. Came in 600 and 660 headsizes.
     
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    Thanks as always. Just curious why Graphite? Did they start using more graphite or less fiberglass? :)
     
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    I think it was to have a marketing connection to the much loved Graphite Pro. The Graphite Tour 600/Trisys 270 was constructed with Graphite and Twaron Fibers.
     
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    I remember when I went into the racket shop in China in the mid 90s. There is HEAD Radical Tour (the original bumblebee), and then next to it is the Graphite Tour. I think calling it "Graphite Tour" is just to market it together with the "Radical Tour". I still remember the price tag is very close, with the Graphite Tour costing 20rmb (which is 3 dollar) more than the Radicals. At that time I don't know which one is a "better" racket. I sure will be surprised a few years later to find out the sales of Graphite Tour totally tanked and the model just disappeared forever.
     
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    That snake skin (dampener) and colours are also wicked. I guess I will place it in my permanent collection next to Pro Tour 280.
     
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    Here's a pictures of different descriptions of Twaron from TXE to the last Prestige Pro.

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    fantastic thread thankyou.
     
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    You are welcome. I keep quietly editing the original post as I find more information. :)

    and these are my favorite Head racquets so far:

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    I updated my old Head Prestige thread. Head gurus, please refresh your memories and let me know if you have any more useful info about these great classics.
     
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    posted earlier...but again here why not...Tennis man what a funtastic thread..got me thinkin about the head leconte evolution...do you have any info on that racket. correct me please if im wrong but i think i hit with her a million years ago...hahahah..was it blue/royal with a white grip..also maybe a shorter length as well?? im guessin here...been tryin to find a pic on one for 3 years now..any info would be HUGE!!!! thanks again for kick ace post!:)
     
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  48. vsbabolat

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    The Leconte Evolution was blue/royal with a white grip and was a Junior frame that was made in Austria with Twaron Fiber.
     
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    I recently found a brown prestige pro as the bottom one on this pic http://i25.tinypic.com/2r6gmfs.jpg nothing to complain, lucky find, excepting weight!

    Well, she weights 340 grams "naked" with CAP only (without strings, grip, overgrip etc) and it's custom clean: no silicone in the handle, no lead under the CAP etc.
    Is'nt she a little bit overweight?

    I ever tought Prestige Pro weighted about 350/360g fitted ready-to-play, but this one would pass 370g on the court.
    Maybe it's a defective one or maybe in the very early production frames were heavier than claimed or maybe i got a bad specs sheet?

    I'm confused.

    Someone would be nice to help me? How much should mark on the scale this racquet?
    thank you
     
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    I would say rare, not defective. I have several TXp, brown PP in that weight range 360-370 gram. There was one brown PP came with bumper guard (TK 10), and weigh 350 gram unstrung. Back in old days, the leather grip was thick, heavy, and better in quality.

    VSPrestige as always have lots infos about the Prestige (PT10) and PT57a.
     

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