Head Prestige MP racquets - to lead or not to lead?

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to lead or not to lead?

  1. add lead tape

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  2. keep it in stock form

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  1. Ocean Breeze Sunset

    Ocean Breeze Sunset New User

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    the Head Prestige racquets have low swingweights. i'm curious to see if you guys prefer to lead it up to increase the SW, or just keep it in stock form. i've just ordered a Head Youtek IG Prestige MP, so i'm gonna test it out myself and see what i want to do. i'm so excited!
     
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  2. JGads

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    Frame swings and hits heavier than its listed swingweight. Don't lead unless you play for a week and think you need it. I loved two different demos with no lead, purchased an MP, got unlucky in that the one I bought was not like the demos as it was more head-heavy, then entered lead and counter-weighting hell, which was a vortex I never pulled out of. I think the frame is best stock, but that also depends how strong you are. I'm about average height and strength. If you're a big strong guy, then maybe lead up if you feel like you can handle it, and if stock swingweight actually does feel too low to you after a few hits.
     
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  3. Bartelby

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    1 gram at 12 and 2 between 3 and 9 works well with no counterbalancing.
     
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  4. ACDC

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    3 grams at 10 - 2 is the best I've found in IG Prestige ... different if you have a TGT frame...
     
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  5. Torres

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    The MPs (YT and IG) are completely half baked without lead. SW is too low and there's not enough mass in the upper hoop in stock form.
     
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  6. movdqa

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    I think that these racquets must have lead unless you're playing a fairly flat precision game or you can generate a ton of pace through racquet-head speed. If you can do the latter, you're probably better off with something stiffer.
     
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  7. SlapShot

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    I'm holding off on adding lead to my frames, but I have already added a leather grip, and I do think that they are a bit tame stock. I'm fully expecting that I'll have to add a touch of weight, but I want to get my string setup just right before tinkering with adding weight.

    I think it depends on your game as well. I generate a lot of racquet head speed with the current setup, which helps me to create topspin, but I think a little lead might help with a touch of ballspeed.
     
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  8. ghia

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    Lead as much as you can handle.
    For me: 2 g at 10 and 2
     
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  9. JGads

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    That's the thing, top RHS can essentially produce the same ball as a leaded up frame in which your generated RHS is lower while the frame is beefier.

    Also, this frame seems to string up very tight. Any of you guys try going with a pretty low tension to get some increased pop and to open up the sweet spot? Seems like it could be a prime candidate for some low-tension goodness.
     
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  10. SlapShot

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    I've found that I'm reducing my tension on the IG more than I have on any other iteration of the Prestige, so I think you're onto something. I'm at 54# with full poly, and I might try 52# next.

    I had a lesson with a local teaching pro who works with some really good players, and he made a comment about how much RHS I was creating, so that felt good. I've found that the quick racquet does make it easier to generate the bigger spin without feeling like I'm going to launch a ball long, hence the reason I'm a little tentative to put lead on the frame yet.
     
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  11. dadozen

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    I was playing the YT MP in stock form, but the IG MP's SW is just too low for me. I liked the overall feel, but I just couldn't get enough power out of it.

    After experimenting a while, my current setup is 3g @12, 4g @3&9, and some extra weight in the handle to make it 7 pts HL as I like( 5g of lead tape on the handle and enough silicone inside the handle to bring all of them at 337g unstrung ).

    Oh, the 5g on the handle is just because I use 3 overgrips so it's just to compensate the loss of weight after removing the original grip.
     
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  12. oldschoolrules

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    I primarily play with the YTPP but I have a couple of the YTMPs in my bag as well. On the MPs I do have roughly 2g at 3 and 2g at 9 (I think that is right, four roughly 4" strips of the "Tourna" lead tape). While I have no idea what that changes the actual static or swing weight to versus stock, I like the way it feels more evenly balanced overall and improves the feel of the racquet at impact.
     
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  13. hrstrat57

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    Add leather grip....and lead at 3/9 about 4" = beast
     
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  14. uk_skippy

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    I've just got an IG PMP and added 2.75g at 2 to 3 & 10 to 9 o'clock; and .5g at 12. I felt the SW was too low and the rqt was too HL. I'll hit with it today to see how it plays.

    On initial feel, I agree with JGads about stringing. I strung it with a multi/poly hybrid at 52.5/49 but it feels too tight compared to my usual set up so will probably need to go lower.

    Regards

    Paul
     
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  15. Bartelby

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    I'm at 42 and i like it.



     
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  16. SlapShot

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    As a testament to the IG stringing up tight, I strung one up the other night with Pacific Classic Gut 17 in the mains and BHB7 in the crosses at 58#/54# (which would have been status quo, or even a touch lower than I'd like on my Microgels) and it was far too tight. Not sure if the flex makes it feel like it needs a little softer bed or what, but I'm going to order a couple of sets of Classic today and experiment with the tension a bit, because other than the stiffness, it was a fantastic setup.
     
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  17. movdqa

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    I have two YTs with Fluoro and one with ALU BB Rough 16 and the Fluoro is a little better for groundstrokes and volleys - that little bit of give is nice - but the ALU BB Rough is so much nicer on serves. I'm leaning towards ALU BB Rough as I think that the difference is a matter of feel - not performance - and I can live with losing feel if it doesn't affect performance.

    The IG has BB ALU Rough - the RIP Control 17 was definitely softer and provided a little more punch. Again, I liked the RIP on everything except for the serve. I guess it's nice to have a bit more power but it seems that more control is better for me on the serve.
     
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  18. epiczeko

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    This is a great post. I too added weight at 10 - 2. I think the best is to add as much as you can handle. For me, since I've had shoulder problems in the past due to over leading racquets, I only put 2 grams at 10 - 2. Worked great for me!
    Although, you might want to put 2 overgrips like I did. Racket feels silky smooth.
     
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  19. anubis

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    I've never had any luck adding weight to racquets. I had bad luck with my MP radicals. Just made them into a launching pad. I imagine the Prestige will be the same.

    If you can add lead and still keep the ball in play, then good on you.
     
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  20. 3fees

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    I added 2 g at 3 and 9, feels almost identical to non leaded , I have 3 Pres. MP
     
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  21. djdannyj25

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    In my own experience, there has never been a racquet that did not play better with some lead configuration on it.

    The difficulty is finding out what kind of setup you like.

    On the prestiges I really liked head on the top of the hoop, like 4 inch strips at 12 o'clock. How much lead is up to what you like :)
     
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  22. djdannyj25

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    ****worse^^
     
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  23. epiczeko

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    On this racket I added 2 grams at 10 & 2 O'CLOCK like I said before and its really working for me. I just want some more oomph (power). Im thinking of adding another one or two grams at 12 O'CLOCK also. Is this a good idea? I mean would it make more sense to just take off the tape at 10 & 2 then try the 12 O'CLOCK setup.
     
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