Head Prestige S with max tension (57 lbs)?

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  1. Xfimpg

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    Hi - I've been researching the Head Youtek IG Prestige S and have found a lot of useful information on here. I have noticed that folks are saying to string it low or there will be virtually no sweet spot and it will feel like a board.

    I'm currently using a Prestige MP at 57m/55c and thinking of making the switch to the lighter Prestige S.

    My concern is that at 57m/55c with the Prestige S, I will be swinging like a madman just to get it over the net.

    Can anyone chime in if they're using a higher tension with the Prestige S and what they're results are?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Xfimpg

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    EDIT: I should add that I'm playing with PSGD.
     
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  3. dje31

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    I'm transitioning to it. Cyclone 17 mains, Forten Sweet 17 crosses, one @ 53m / 47c, the other @ 47m / 43c, because someone here said to go low on tension. The tighter, so far, feels better, but I'm a 48 yr old old school, 4.5 dinosaur, with pretty traditional strokes, game & style.

    Picked up two 4-3/8s, put a half size heat shrink sleeve on each, with a Becker leather grip, LH wrap, suede side out. ~13g inside butt cap so far.

    Feels pretty good so far, but having used three Volkl Tour 10 Mids for the past 10 years, I haven't quite dialed them in yet. I know exactly what the T10M will do in just about any situation...not there yet with the YTIGPS, but I'm pretty confident I made the right choice for my game, age, needs, and ability.
     
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  4. Xfimpg

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    Hey DJE
    I read your previous posts/reviews on this racket, great to read! I'm now in the same boat as you were previously. :shock:
     
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  5. TfReAk

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    In my prestige S I have msv co-focus at 55lbs (25kg) m+c. It plays great. Put on the tk82s pallets and wilson pro hybrid replacement grip. Double wrapped yonex supergrip (gasquet/wawrinka) and it feels good. It took me some time to get used to it though :)
     
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  6. dje31

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    For all the people who rag on the Prestige S, saying it's "not a real Prestige," "tiny sweetspot," "granny / sissy Prestige," etc., it still requires solid foot work and preparation. It's not going to hide / cover all of your faults. But I didn't want or need it to do any of that.

    It's a lighter player's stick, which IS what I was after.

    Now just waiting for two particular posters to chime in and rag about how horrible it is...at least to / for them...they just can't help themselves.

    In 3...2...1...
     
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  7. TfReAk

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    dje31, everyone has a different opinion. I read the negative comments to, but I also like the prestige S very much. Next week I'm going to play a tournament so I keep the full poly. After that I'm going to experiment with some syn gut, multi's and hybrids.
     
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    Thanks guys for the feedback, it confirms that it can be played with a higher tension without losing the sweetspot. :)

    Okay I just pulled the trigger and purchased one, i'll post in a few days and let you know how I think it plays with a synthetic gut.
     
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  9. dje31

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    Yeah, I get that, but you'd think these two use the Search function simply to find every opportunity to rag on this stick. What, did someone m*o*l*l*e*s*t their grandmother with one? It borders on obsessive.
     
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  10. JeffG

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    The truly funny part is when they try to pin ego related racquet issues on others. I like the Prestige S so far; currently waiting on new pallets to give it a full go. I also like (gasp) the BLX Pro Staff 100, a similar approach from Wilson. I'm actually surprised it took both companies as long as it did to create them. There are a lot of us folks who came of age with the originals looking for, as you mention, a bit less weight.

    Also ironic is that they continually compare the S to the MP which itself was derived from the 630/280, not a "real" Prestige mid. By their own reckoning, I guess their comparatively weak games require the bigger, "granny-sized" frame. :shock: Based on behavior, my Prestige Classics are probably older than those guys.

    In answer to the OP, my experience with Prestige S is that the stringbed (currently natural gut at 54, bought used that way) is somewhat inconsistent, i.e., the sweetspot is really hot as compared to more off-center hits. I could see that being described as a small sweetspot but what I'll be after with the next string job is a more even response. Whether it's slightly more or less powerful is relatively unimportant.
     
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  11. TfReAk

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    I didn't play with full gut, but with full multi (WC Xplosiv) and it felt a bit "mushy" to me (it was already in it as I bought it used). I did a hybrid (strung low) and it was still to soft. So I ended up full poly at 25kg (msv hex or co-focus). It plays more crisp and I don't really notice a small sweetspot.
     
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  12. pattenww

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    I used the Prestige S all last summer, but finally sold them back to TW and am now unfortunately back in the demo mode.
    I tried lots of strings and lots of tensions and did find mutli (PPA, FXP Tour, Mutifeel – alternated among those and just could not get the feel I was looking for ) 55# or below best and could not get along with it with a poly in it.
    For me the string pattern just proved to open for my liking along with the extreme string sensitivity (for me). It is a very open in the center 16 x 19. That, coupled with the shared holes could be the reason for low tensions - not sure. I am now using my slightly moded micro rad which I can do anything with on the forehand, but with my 1HBH (much weaker shot) i do not have the racket head speed (confidence and preparation) to generate enough spin to hit out confidently so am looking for a more closed 16 x 19 or 100 sq inch 16 x 20 as a compromise.
     
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  13. pattenww

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    oh and for OP question..I guess you are asking if at ~ mid 50's you will have now power. For me with a multi that was never a problem - plenty of power for me. I,contrary to many, find it pretty powerful.
     
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  14. TfReAk

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    Pattenww did you demo the yonex 97 310 of the Mantis pro 295 yet? Maybe one of those wil suit you...it's just a suggestion :)
     
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    No Mantis Pro hear in the states. I found the Yonex still a little too tight of a pattern.

    Demos on way - Pure Storm Team (will add weight at handle), Speed 300 - (probably add a little weight) , Technifibre 295 (again a little extra weight), Yonex Xi 98, Dunlop M & F 3.0 and six one team ( I know, real open - again with plan to add a little weight at handle). From there maybe the proK q tour 295. If none of those work I am going full tweener and suck up the fact I hate the feel.

    PS - I have tried a lot of rackets over the years and thought I had it locked down with S, but got tired of having to play such a spin based game with it.
     
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  16. pattenww

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    oh and tfreak.I like my lead at 12 on the rad with counter in handle. Mine weighs 320 grams with all the stuff on it.
     
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  17. Xfimpg

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    Took the Prestige S out for a test drive tonite, hit a few ground strokes and serves, using PSGD at 57m/55c. I used my Prestige MP at the same time just for comparison.

    Likes:
    The Prestige S is a wicked spin machine, that is for sure.
    Very maneuverable as one mentioned earlier, you can really whip it around.
    Serves were easy to hit but you feel that you're missing a bit of heft.

    Dislikes:
    The top end of the racket tended to flex on impact, which I found a bit strange given the flex numbers.
    Not even close to the same amount of plow as the MP. I'm aware that it shouldn't be too close, but the difference is quite significant.
    It does have a bit of a "tinny" sound, but not enough to put off.

    Not saying "Yay" or "Nay" yet, will play with it some more tomorrow and see that happens.
     
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    Just got back from an evening at the courts with the wife. When I was at the shop the other day, I had one of my two, and it weighed in at 351g on their postal scale. I know when I first took them home, unmodded, unstrung, but with the plastic on the handles and the HEAD placquard on them, both weighed in at 327g.

    To recap, I'd added a half-size heat shrink sleeve, a leather grip, and 13g inside the butt cap, to make them more HL, which all of my previous sticks typically were.

    First couple of outings were good, but hadn't dialed them in quite yet. Started second guessing myself. "Maybe all of the chuckleheads on TW were right after all...?"

    Then I thought, after seeing 351g come up on the scale: it's no longer a light player's racquet, like I was after.

    So I pulled the 13g out of the butt cap, and tried them. VIOLA! ( sic ) Felt like home.

    Could hit my forehand with my normal traditional Eastern grip, occasionally Continental, without worrying about hitting the fence on the fly. I'd found in recent months that I had to hit more Semi-Western forehands to keep the ball in play, which is not at all natural for me.

    I even liked the one that was strung looser. Not sure which one I preferred just yet, but came home very satisfied with my play, and my choice. But yes, timing was better without the additional tail-weighting.

    Like a lighter version of my Volkl Tour 10 Mids, easier to swing, with a bit more forgiveness. Pretty much knew what each swing was going to do.

    Hopefully I'm not just in the honeymoon phase.
     
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  19. Tyler91

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    I'm a beginning player with about a year of experience. I started at 3.0 and have progressed to a middling 3.5. I've used the Prestige S for the past 8 or 9 months. I started by having them all strung at 57 with Xcel 16. Now, I'm experimenting at 54 and it's definitely a bit more forgiving...no surprise. But, I liked it at 57, too.

    My first stick was a Pure Drive 107 that was way too stiff and powerful for me...no control. So, I like the Prestige S, by comparison.
     
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    What are the "pallets" that you refer to?
     
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    Those are great suggestions for Patten! I will say that he might find too much power with the Mantis 295. A full poly set up should tame the power. The Mantis line of rackets are very solid.
     
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  22. Xfimpg

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    Hey SI - nope, not me... i'ts a 4 5/8.
     
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    Haha..it's just that i bought a TGT293.2 and it's 18/20 and the transition from to one to another is kind of difficult... I'm kind of confused...
     
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    Don't be...in the immortal words of someone or another, when it comes to ________________, "one's too many, and a thousand's not enough."
     
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  25. president.s

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    couldn't agree more...
     
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