Head Pro Stock Order

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  1. GringoLatino7

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    How "good" do you have to be before you go from getting retail racquets customized to having your own molds?

    What's the minimum order? Do they come from Austria? Which companies do the work? Head or P1, **** (I just did a Google search of racquet customization..all I really know is Wilson does there's in the Wilson Pro Room in Chicago right?)

    Is there one specific person for Head that handles for all pros? sn: How do you get that job!?!

    Can you choose from any racquet? Say you're playing and you say..."I really like the feel of the Prestige Classic" Can they make any racquet with any material, whether it be the feel of a "Classic" or an "iPrestige" series..is the sky the limit? You can just say...I want it to be "x" long in inches, have a stiffness of "x", a string pattern of "x" a swingweight of "x." Is there a form you get to fill out and you check different boxes like an order form?

    About the 57As. What does that mean to a pro and what are your other options? 57C 58B? How does the numerical and alpha system work?

    TGK 231.3?
    I saw a video of YouTube someone got there hands on a Cilic racquet I believe. What does TGK stand for and the numbers? I heard the .3 means an open string pattern...231.1 would mean a more dense string pattern, maybe I have it backwards. I just really want to learn up on it being a huge Head fan/Safin fan/tennis fan/teaching pro/tennis nerd/etc.
     
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  2. niktub

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    .3 is the most flexible
    Do a big search
     
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  3. AverageJoe

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    Man there are a lot of questions in there. I'll try and answer as many as I can

    I train with a couple guys who used to use/are using Head rackets and this is what they told me. One guy, currently around 250 used to use the 57E but when he fell out of the top 150 Head said he had to start paying for his own sticks so he sent his mold to Dunlop and they made him a custom stick. The other guy I train with is currently in the top 100 and top 40 in doubles and when he made the switch from Wilson to Head, he sent them his Wilson stick and they sent him 8 sticks (4 57A's and 4 57E's with different lay ups). From that he decided what he liked and now they send him around 20 sticks a year.

    Not sure what you mean by minimum order? Both guys I train with get around 5-6 sticks at each slam (or that time of the year). I have no idea where they come from. Head does all the lead and silicone work, if they want a custom grip they get it (at least the guys i know) from P1.

    No idea.

    As far as I know unless your Murray or Novak, etc they have a couple molds you get to choose from (TGK, 57 series, PT10, etc), then they customize them to your liking. Not sure what the code is for either Murray (57A 16x19) or Novak's frame but I'm sure players have access to those now as it's rumored that Stepanek is using Novaks mold.

    No idea how the numerical and alphabetical system work other than we know a 57A is a PT630 mold, the 57E is a i.prestige mold etc. As far as I know, from what the guys I train with told me, they all sent Head their own non-Head stick and Head sent them similar layups in Head frames to try.

    See below

     
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  4. vsbabolat

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    231.3 is 16x19..................
     
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  5. GringoLatino7

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    @AverageJoe - Wow! Now that is what I was looking for! Thank you! (SMILE!)
     
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  6. mrmo1115

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    If you want to buy some Pro Stock racquets you could go to **** and order them there. As far as I know Roman is extremely knowledgable about the Head Pro Stock frames. I know a few juniors who use coded Head frames.
     
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  7. AverageJoe

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    Really? That's pretty awesome. Do you know which frames he can get and what the costs are?
     
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  8. AverageJoe

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    Always happy to help
     
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  9. mrmo1115

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    I'm sure a lot but I never asked. And not sure either, sorry.
     
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  10. niktub

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    Yes and 260.2 as well is 16x19
     
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  11. dr325i

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    different molds -- 231 is Microgel Radical, 260 is Youtek.
     
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  12. vsbabolat

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    Thank you.
     
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  13. niktub

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    Yes i was aware of that as i have both racquets
    I just thought that the .3 of the 231.3 was related to the layup, not string pattern
     
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    Good enough that you dont have to ask these sort of questions and your agent does it for you.
     
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  15. jorel

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    go to **** and check out the used section...i wont post more cuz it will get deleted
     
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  16. GringoLatino7

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    I went to **** Tennis and didn't see a "used" section?
     
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  17. Bhagi Katbamna

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    Did you use the secret hand signs?
     
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    two slaps and a high five
     
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  19. martini1

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    >>I train with a couple guys who used to use/are using Head rackets and this is what they told me. One guy, currently around 250 used to use the 57E but when he fell out of the top 150 Head said he had to start paying for his own sticks so he sent his mold to Dunlop and they made him a custom stick. The other guy I train with is currently in the top 100 and top 40 in doubles and when he made the switch from Wilson to Head, he sent them his Wilson stick and they sent him 8 sticks (4 57A's and 4 57E's with different lay ups). From that he decided what he liked and now they send him around 20 sticks a year.
    >>

    Doesn't Head owns the mold? And they are so nice on sending the mold to a competitor??
     
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  20. AverageJoe

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    I don't know how copy right infringement works in the racket world but I know a lot of guys do it (ex. Mardy Fish going to Dunlop)

    And when my buddy lost his sponsorship from Head he went looking for another sponsor (as any pro would do). Dunlop said they could make something very close for him. They did, he liked it, and he's been with them every since.

    Btw, to the OP I found out that all Head pro stock are made in Austria.
     
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  21. dr325i

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    Not correct.
    Only certain are made in Austria, most are made in China.
     
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  22. AverageJoe

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    Sorry, you're right, I meant all of the sticks my buddies use (57E and 57A).
     
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  23. finalfantasy7

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    How would you tell the difference between China/austrian made, does this even include pro stock frames e.g. head rackets with code in throws like tgk237.1/ 238.1/so on?
     
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  24. dr325i

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    discussed many times.
    The easiest way to tell is the writing under the pallets. All TGK/TGT Head frames are made in China.
    The PT frames and some specific (Novak, etc) are in Austria. I believe Head did try to make the PT frames in China too for a while with the 2011 batch of Youteks. Very visible feel differences on that one batch. B}Pros that I know playing with PT57A mentioned it too. The Innegra PJ went back to the old process (Austria or China, do not know...)
     
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  25. finalfantasy7

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    ^ok,
    Does anyone know if the tgk237.1 came in a xl version?
     
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  26. movdqa

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    I think that they all come as hairpins and then get cut down to the desired length. What would be more useful for buyers is if there's a player out there that uses an XL.
     
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  27. dr325i

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    exactly. The hairpins come at about 30". They get cut to the desired length...
     
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