Head Pro Tour 280: China vs. Austria

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  1. BDAZ

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    I know this has been covered a ton, but I can't seem to come up with any search results for it. What are the differences between the two, and which do you prefer? Thanks.
     
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  2. Ryoma Kun

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    teh austria version has a more solid feel, thats the only difference i notice, and it says made in austria on it =D
     
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  3. kv581

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    According to these boards the Chinese version is also a bit heavier and/or a bit more HH. I think the Chinese version is also more flexible?
     
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  4. rich s

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    I have owned both and I agree that the Chinese made frame feels head heavier than the Austrian made frame.

    Static weight was the same for both though.

    rich
     
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  5. shadow

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    chahom@comcast.com is the expert on both the head 630 and the pt 280. I play with the pt 280. He prefers the 630, and he is probably right, but it may be a moot point because I doubt anyone can get a mint 630 anymore and it is also unlikely you can get a pt 280 with a grip size greater than 4 1/4" either since they are both out of production for many years. In a way, it's too bad because they are awesome racquets with near perfect weight, swingweights, balance, control and feel, especially for someone with a baseline game.

    Still, there are plenty of great racquets out there, and it still comes down to the player more so than the racquet. Work on fundamentals, strength, conditioning, play around with strings and tensions and racquet weighting, and your game will adapt.
     
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  6. Craig Sheppard

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    What the heck happened to Michael Chaho? Used to post a lot...
     
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  7. Don S

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    I have both the Chinese and Austria versions and I have to admit that I prefer the Chinese version. It feels heavier to me, like it plows through the ball better, the Austrian feels stiffer and kinda tinny, is it possible that the differnce is because the Chinese version has Cap Grommets and the Austrian has a normal bumperguard?
     
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  8. annihilatorpro

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    My chinese ones didn't come with CAP grommets...
     
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  9. kv581

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    No but you can install one inexpensively.
     
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  10. Pro_Tour_630

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    Shadow my new email is chaho@sbcglobal.net

    Craig, been busy the past six months with the construction of a new house, tennis is on the back burner for now.

    Like all who have taken a break from the boards I too will be back posting.

    I have been on a quest for 25 years searching, and I have found that you don’t need to spend $200 on the latest stick and $20 on a high-end string, I ended my search with a $55 stick and a $4 string, it only cost me around 5K to realize that.
     
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  11. Craig Sheppard

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    LOL... can understand that. Glad I'm not searching for the latest and greatest then. Thought you might have gotten p.o.'d at people on the board or something, good to see you're still around. Good luck w/ your house and non-tennis activities.

    Craig
     
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  12. protour280

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    Can you still buy new PT 280 out there? Anyone know where the best deal on the web would be? I have two mid and one oversize, but I think I want to get anohter mid. Mine are all Austria so I would like to try and find one like that. Thanks for your help
     
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  13. rich s

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    The cap grommets are heavier than standard grommets and will make the racket head heavier - thats why a-pro thinks his Chinese made PT280 plows thru the ball better
     
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  14. OnyxZ28

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    Search on froogle, there are two retailers that still carry the China stick, albeit in a 4 1/8 grip only. If you're looking for an Austria version, post a wanted ad in the Classifieds.
     
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  15. kinsella

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    1. PT 820 Expert Brad Smith, who has owned at least a dozen, says that the first Chinese made 280s were extremely similar to Austrian ones. The production stopped. Demand arose and production resumed and the later Chinese ones are different from the Austrians. Some might prefer the difference, but if you were looking for the Austrian characteristics, you would not get an exact match.

    I have never seen a PT280 with CAP grommets -- Chinese or Austrian -- although I believe that you could put Prestige CAP grommets on a PT280.

    I am playing later today with an Austrian, after playing the last month with a Chinese. I will let you know how it compared to me.

    2. PT280 Source -- Here are PT280s new, in any grip size (these are 4 1/4 grip racquets re-gripped to larger size -- perfectly acceptable if done correctly. Pricy, but new, so...

    http://www.thetennisspot.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=179
     
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  16. schange50

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    I happen to prefer the difference. If I'm not mistaken, the LM Prestige CAP grommets will fit the PT280.
     
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  17. big ted

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    correct me if im wrong but i think both chinese and austrian versions weigh about 12 ounces, but if u replace the bumper guard with a CAP system on the chinese one it will weigh much more and be more head heavy
     
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  18. OnyxZ28

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    Honestly, not that much more. I have two Chinese versions, one with i.Prestige MP CAPS and the other with 8g of lead tape, the one with lead tape is heavier.
     
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  19. protour280

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    How do you tell the difference between the austrian ones and the chinesse ones? Mine says "Designed in Austria"..that must mean it was made in China?
     
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  20. El Diablo

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    I have both versions and find they play similarly, though an hour after playing with the Chinese version, I feel ready to play again.
     
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  21. kv581

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    So...playing with Austrian PT280 makes you tire of tennis then?

    j/k
     
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  22. Datacipher

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    There is probably MSG in the Chinese version, but not to worry, it hasn't been proved harmful!
     
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  23. OnyxZ28

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    Not even close to funny.
     
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  24. annihilatorpro

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    CAP grommets from the lm prestige fits perfectly on the pt 280. I have them on my rackets, and it brings the overall weight up about 10 grams, so mine are ~350 grams now. They feel slightly more head heavy than without the CAPS, but I can't make a judgment on how it feels compared with the Austrian version because I've never tried them before.
     
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  25. schange50

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    I played with the the Austrian version back in the '90s and remember it being more flexible. I didn't experiment with CAP grommets back then, but I did add an extra cross string at the bottom (18X 21), a la Muster. It transformed a good control racquet into one with unparalleled control.
     
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  26. OnyxZ28

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    How did you add an extra cross?
     
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  27. schange50

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    Used one piece, ATW stringing method. Ran a cross string through 2 of the bottom tie-off holes, creating 2 shared holes at the bottom.
     
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