Head RIP Control 16 v. 17

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  1. ArliHawk

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    It is so odd what a difference in guage makes in this string. I love the 17, but don't really care for the 16. Is this abnormal, or have others experienced the guage making a big difference in how much you like a string?
     
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  2. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Outside of natural gut, RIP 17 plays like a dream. And like you, I notice a drastic difference with 16, namely a drop in performance with the 16.

    BUT, RIP 16 is still a lot better than most, if not all of the multi's out there.
     
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  3. ArliHawk

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    If my usual stringer doesn't have RIP 17, I'll usually go with Prince Premier attack over RIP in 16.
     
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  4. 3fees

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    Never used 16 ga,,used 17 ga as my go to string,,very good all around string-performed well,,my new go to string is Luxilon.

    Cheers
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  5. netguy

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    I was hoping to have a good experience with Rip Control 16g. This string gave me 3 to 5 hours of good hitting and then it became uncontrolable and too soft. On the other hand, Power Fiber II was stiff (for a multi), firm and controlable. Botton line, I decided to string my 2 racquets with PF on the crosses for the rest of the summer before playtesting something else.
     
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  6. newton296

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    yep, I played with rip 16 for about 2 years and thought it was great, then I finally broke down and tried 17g rip. what a surprise!! nice bump up in feel, playability and control. don't get me wrong , I like the extra durability 16 gauge offers so I still use that in my backup but 17 g rip is my match day string now.
     
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  7. ArliHawk

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    Bummer. Yesterday I went to my shop had neither the rip control in 17 nor the prince premier attack. So now I guess i'll be trying gamma tnt2. Might have to order some rip control 17 to have on hand for these situations.
     
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    I had.the exact same experience -- I was so disappointed. For me the 17g is great to play with, the 16g not so much.
     
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  9. gkamieneski

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    One thing I have noticed is that RIP isn't being carried anymore by some suppliers. I hope Head isn't going to discontinue this string. I tried FXP Tour and found it similar but lacking RIP's feel.
     
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  10. Ramon

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    The major internet retailers still carry it. Also, the price went up a few months ago, so that's definitely a sign that it's selling very well, and Head would not want to discontinue a string that sells.

    One thing about RIP Control that some pro shops might not like is the fact that it's not easy to string. It requires a bit more time than a typical multifilament, and it's particularly difficult to deal with blocked holes.
     
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  11. gkamieneski

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    TP has stopped carrying it altogether, and you're right the price has almost doubled from about a year ago.
     
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    So I just strung up one of my customized EXO3 Graphite 100 with RIP Control 16. I was previosuly using Vantage 100 (customized used ones that were not my spec). A full bed of Pro's Pro Lethal 8 (48 Lbs) and Gosen Polyon (50 lbs) gave me a bad case of TE. I strung one of the Vantages with Dunlop Hexy Fiber but TE was still bad so I went back to my EXO3 Graphite 100's

    So I decided to string up the rackets with syn gut until my arm gets 100% better. I had no problem with syn gut because I played with it excluisively before the poly craze...but I missed the control and spin of poly. I strung up one of them with Topspin Cyberfl.ash/Dunlop Hexy Fiber.. I liked it but I felt I need to stay away from poly ( even in a hybrid). I have been reading about RIP control and how it's low-powered, soft but with great control and good spin potential. I also took a 3 week rest to my arm ( vacation)

    My first outing with it was ok. My friend who I usually with is S&V with flat strokes. We hardly have long rallies so I didnt really get a sense of how the control and spin was. But I was able to hit some good topspin passing shots. So the next week I play with a partner who has similar game as I ( steady from baseline, topspin grounds strokes with OHBH) so I was able to get a better feel for this string since we had long rallies. I must say the muted feeling was getting used to but I really do like the control and spin potential of the string. I'm glad it didn't feel like a rocket launcher. I had a hitting session with a friend yesterday with long rallies also which had the same results! The string is starting to fray now but I don't mind..

    Tonight, I'm going to string up another one of my rackets with RIP Control 17 for more spin.. i don't really care about durability since I string my rackets myself. I think I may have my new main string to use. I don't want to risk really hurting my arm to where I can't play anymore and I have to play golf (which I hate!). My elbow is a little sore after play but I don't have to use the elbow brace anymore. I just ice my elbow after I play...more feedback to come..
     
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  13. mrmike

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    I've been using RIP control 17 for a while now and really like it. Very good spin for a non poly, and impressive control without the arm pain. My only knock on it may be that I don't feel I can really crank a flat serve with it but the overall gain in control and spin makes it worth it. Works very well for spin serves however. Just strung up a set of NXT control to give that a try.
     
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  14. 2ndServe

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    this was the softest string I've ever played. Even with poly mains it felt ultra soft. Too bad it lasted a set and the crosses broke.
     
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  15. Ramon

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    I tried RIP 16. It's not a bad string but feels dead to me. I heard RIP 17 breaks too quickly, which is why I haven't tried it (I break strings too often as it is).

    If anyone wants to try a multi with great spin and decent durability, try Dunlop DNA (I use 16g). I seem to get even more spin with DNA than I do with RIP Control. Part of that is probably because I'm more confident with DNA and take faster swings.
     
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  16. topspinlob

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    So I strung up one of my rackets with RIP Control 17 (natural). I strung it up at 55 lbs (the same tension I have the 16g at in another one of my exo3 graphites) The next day I played with my S&V friend. We played 3 sets in the early evening, WOW! I really liked the string. I was getting all sorts of control and spin when needed. We played more baseline rallies when usual but when he was hitting his hard flat shots at me I was able to smack them flat without loss of control. The only thing that bothered me is that the string was moving alot ( mains and crosses). It moved more than the 16g. I'm used to adjusting strings because I played with syn gut alot but I think I got spoiled with using polys.

    The next day I played with my baseliner friend. We played in similar conditions but we played at tennis center at higher altitude than the park I played at the day before Granted I was tired before I played (woke up real early to bring wife to an appt!) but I played like crap. I felt OK during warm up but during play balls were flying. I felt like every time I hit the ball my eyes would close. Anyhow the strings were moving like crazy. I thought I found my go-to-string but yesterday's play nix that. I think I will up the tension to 58 lbs. I really want to keep using this string for the sake of my arm. I was contemplating of hybriding with a soft poly but I will play with the tension and get more rest ;)

    I'm guessing too that the higher altitude didn't help my control
    any thoughts?
     
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  17. gkamieneski

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    While a happy poly user now (BHSR/BHS hybrid), I have strung and used RIP for many years. It has been around a long time. I would never string it lower than 57lbs and this is midrange for the recommended stringing of the Head raquets that spec'd out that string back in the day.

    Even at that, you will still be straightening the strings from time to time. Stopped using the 16ga and use the 17ga exlcusively now for better spin.
     
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  18. topspinlob

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    right on ..I don't mind straightening strings now.. gives me something to focus on between points..anyways.. I will play with tension.. I have 3 more sets of the 17 g thanks!
     
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  19. Triskadekaphilia

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    I like 17 gauge Rip control. I use it when I feel I need more control or I am hitting inconsistently with my multis or natural gut. It has a muted feel which is a negative but the control and spin are great and it's very soft and forgiving.

    I actually like it better as it ages, it gives more pop and still has great control and spin as the stringbed loosens. Each time I string it I go down in tension and get better results.

    Never played 16 gauge but wouldn't necessarily want to due to mixed reviews at best. It's known to have a more board like feel and I am not a string breaker. Also I play with 18/20 frames.

    It's interesting how much spin you get with the string given how much string movement is present. So, we think of poly strings producing amazing string due to snap back, but rip control makes some nice rpms with no discernible snap back.
     
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  20. Oz_Rocket

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    I finally decided to try some RIP Control in my Graphene Speed Pro to see if I can get a decent amount of control and spin in something a bit softer than a poly. Could only find the 16G locally but so far it isn't too bad and much better than synth gut.

    The feel isn't so much soft as more dull but it is soft on the arm. Also it doesn't feel as good off centre which may be because it is thicker than the poly I normally use (17G) and strung a bit higher at 57lbs compared to the 54lbs.

    But overall I'm impressed enough that I'm going to order a reel of 17G as I feel I'll be able to get a good setup.
     
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  21. gkamieneski

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    Have you tried BHSR for a poly? I always used RIP 17g but recently started using BHSR for mains and BHS for crosses at 54 lbs rather than 57 lbs for the former in my 16x19 Speeds. It feels like a softer poly.
     
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