Head to Heads - Hoad/Laver, Newcombe/Laver, Newcombe/Emerson

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  1. krosero

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    You're right, that was in the Bodo article.
     
  2. pc1

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    I think Gonzalez said that also.
     
  3. hoodjem

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    ESPN says 37-18 for Laver.
     
  4. Dan Lobb

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    Hoad's number should be well over 20, but apparently the 1964 New Zealand numbers have not been included in these totals.
     
  5. kiki

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    Hoad and Rosewall are so different it is amazing both be that close although may be it is the proof that opposites complement
    Hoad was extremely generous and Ken extremely mean and his peers always called him POCKETS

    But IMO the music of his BH far outweights that
     
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    While many see Kodes and Vines twins of tennis IMO there are 2 differences
    Kodes won Slams on 2 different surfaces
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    The guy is a GOAT candidate without any doubt
     
  7. BobbyOne

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    Vines won majors on at least two surfaces: grass and wood.
     
  8. BobbyOne

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    Sorry for quoting the wrong post.

    kiki, earlier you called Rosewall mean. Now you call him extremely mean. What will be your next insult?

    I'm glad that at least toward me Muscles is not mean at all. Yesterday I just received another letter from him...
     
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  9. kiki

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    Grass and. .. would?
     
  10. kiki

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    I have nothing against the fella.It seems his peers nicknamed him pockets so ask em
     
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    Maybe it only seems....

    In World Tennis was the report of a discussion between pro players of Kramer's troupe. The guys called Rosewall Muscles there.

    Butch Buchholz wrote that Rosewall never asked for extra money or favours when he was No.1...
     
  12. kiki

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    I never questioned Rosewall´s honesty, like most of the australian greats of his generation.They settled very high standarts for that.

    But one can be honest and, at the same time, mean, and to me being mean is a small shortcoming while being honest is a great virtue.

    and, do yourself a favour.Take things more relaxed, you´ll feel better.

    If somebody criticized some aspects of Laver, Kodes or any other player I like, I wouldn´t take it as an offense...
     
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    To be too relaxed (as you use to be) leads to the danger of distorting history.

    I rather prefer to be exact regarding tennis history.
     
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    The 4 set win by hoad over Laver i was there Laver got an early led in the second set then Hoad stepped up the tempo and then cruised.Tomwill
     
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    ...which is a very typical germanic poise, that said without any intention of being offensive.
     
  16. BobbyOne

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    Even though I'm Austrian I would say that the Germans fare pretty well with their trade mark "Made in Germany" and the top economy place in Europe.
     
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    I, for one, salute the punctuality of the German rail system as virtuous.
     
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    You cannot be serious.
     
  19. kiki

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    Yes germans do a few things extremely well... but economy vision may not be one
    As for middle to high tech reliable consumer goods, they are truly great
     
  20. hoodjem

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    Why can I not be serious? Is the atmosphere on this planet composed entirely of nitrous oxide?
     
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    No i cited the famous philosopher Johny Mac in behalf of the hypothesis, that the German rail system would be punctual (if i undertstand it rightly). Just in the last days i had the experience, that the railway was one hour late. In general, the German "Bahn" gets fire for their lack of timing.
     
  22. hoodjem

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    Johny Mac? Is that a pseudonym for Hume, or Hobbes? :wink:

    Apparently, your empirical evidence differs from my empirical evidence.
     
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