Henman: Federer will Return To # 1

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  1. OddJack

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    Tim, just like Newcombe, is very optimistic about Rodge's chances to regain top spot:


    "I think he will win more slams, I really do. If the conditions favour him then Roger at his best is still better than anyone else."

    http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/126117.html
     
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  2. Tammo

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    Why talk about Federer, Murray has a much better chance cuz he has almost no points to defend between AO and FO
     
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  3. _maxi

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    Yeah because Federer defends 10 titles before the FO.
     
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  4. OddJack

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    Muhahahaaahaaa

    One little Duha,

    Not enough to scratch your head with.
     
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  5. Clarky21

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    Cvac would have to die first before Fed takes the number 1 spot from him. Roger getting to number 2 is a sure bet though,and Murray will move up to the third spot with a good shot at taking the 2nd spot for himself.
     
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    Yeah, 600 points can't really change the rankings now can they....:confused:
     
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  7. ttbrowne

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    Henman, "Federer will return to #1. Now get me a Coke dammit!"
     
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  8. Mick

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    i think federer cares more about winning the olympics gold medal in 2012 than winning another grand slam or regaining the top ranking. anyway, these pundits always would say things like this. of course, there's a chance that federer could win more grand slams or regaining the top ranking. how big of a chance is a problem because the chance of doing it could be very slim.
     
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  9. Eternity

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    It's better they don't. When Murray's talked up that way it seems to lead to disappointment, at least let him win a major first.
     
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  10. Russeljones

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    Don't worry, 2012 will be Murray's year. The tarot cards say "diet".
     
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  11. joeri888

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    Is it possible for Murray to become no. 1 without winning a Slam? Hard to see it happen these days, but would it be possible, if for instance Federer wins the AO, and Djokovic does terrible there, and then Murray improves massively in IW and Miami?
     
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  12. batz

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    It's highly unlikely. Novak would probably have to take 4 months off and Murray win everything in sight for that to happen.
     
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  13. monfed

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    Henman is out of his mind if he thinks Federer is retaking #1
     
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  14. TennisLovaLova

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    "It's amazing that people were trying to write him off." Last paragraph of the interview.
     
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    Disagree. I think he would still prefer another Wimby title over the Olympic gold. With the other three I think it's about even, although if I were him, I'd choose Wimby or a 2nd FO over gold, but gold over AO or USO.
     
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  16. stingstang

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    They are making out the WTF to be way more important than it is. Regular Djoker/Nadal/etc will resume as usual next GS.
     
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  17. nadalwon2012

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    Did Henman/Newk say the same stuff after 2010 World Tour Finals? These guys are strangely unaware of the difference between indoor and outdoor tennis. Federer will always be great indoors.
     
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  18. TJfederer16

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    If he wins a grand slam next year he will be right up there, he has been very close, if he picks one up next year he'll have a great chance of getting back to the top spot, even if it is just for a short amount of time.
     
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  19. helloworld

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    Federer prefers Olympic over Wimbledon? What are you smoking?? You gotta gimme some!! :lol:
     
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    There's a huge if. IF Federer wins the AO, that could land him in the no. 2 spot, which means that Novak and Rafa can meet in the semis. If they do, one of them is gonna lose points, and Roger always has a good chance against 1 of them, but both b2b is tough. He's got a great lead on all of them for the race to Shanghai 2012, and I think that if he wins the AO, he might add another 500 in Rotterdam, which would put pressure on Novak all the way to the US Open. However, winning in Australia is a huge if, and maybe a 10 % chance.
     
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    A typical Former Player-Media Pundit talking out of his *** to gain attention, nothing more, nothing less.
    I'm waiting for Wilander to come up with predicting Rafa's or Djoko's CYGS (make it a golden one, no less) in 2012 - on whoever's bandwagon he might be this time. ;)
     
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  22. Mick

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    didn't you see his reaction when he won the doubles gold with his buddy wawrinka?
    furthermore, federer has won so many wimbledon titles, one more wouldn't matter that much to him but he has never won a gold medal in singles competition in the olympics, so winning the gold in singles would be big to him.
     
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    I read somewhere that pot is recommended for post tennis relaxation
     
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  24. ImAGrinch

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    Federer will not return to #1 unless both Nadal and Djokovic spend alot of time injured. Both players are currently playing at a higher level than Federer more often than not these days. His age has caught up to him and that's mainly in the form of consistency at the highest levels. Sure Fed can and will out perform them on occasion, but its not going to be often enough to reach #1.
     
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  25. Fate Archer

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    If Federer takes control of the #2 rank, either putting Nadal to #3 by outplaying him or if Nadal is slumping, he will be in good condition to take #1.

    The ATP/ITF heads will probably still aim for Fedal finals so Nadal will most likely be on Novak's side for that to happen.

    If there is no improvement on Murray's side then the pattern on most events could hopefully become Djokovic/Federer finals where it could go either way.

    Some pieces need to fall in place for that to happen but taking #2 away from Nadal is the first and most important sub-step right now.
     
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  26. nadalwon2012

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    I agree that Federer values the Olympics heavily. There is the added dynamic of preventing Nadal from winning TWO singles gold medals. It could be an extremely valuable achievement if Nadal finishes with more slams and masters shields then Federer.
     
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    True.

    Can't wait for Rafa to get his mental strength back.
     
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    I tend to agree that, despite Wimbledon being much more valued in the tennis community than Olympics, there has to be some diminishing marginal returns with winning Wimbledon for the 7th time vs. winning the Olympics Singles Gold for the 1st time. And it looks more complete on the resume with the Olympics.
     
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  29. TMF

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    Why shouldn't Fed values 2012 Olympics since he's accomplished everything on the pro tour? There's nothing left except the single gold(he's got the double). Nadal should be focusing on winning hist first WTF.
     
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    If federer becomes No.1 again then I will get bald and strip my clothes and post nude pictures of myself in this thread..
     
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  31. TMF

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    Wimbledon was always been Fed's most important/favorite tournament since he was a kid. When asked about what his dream about winning in the future, young Fed said Wimbledon.
     
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  32. stringertom

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    What a surprise! (Bullz1lla) plays the "indoor card" again!

    Apparently your memory is failing you so I'll go over the list you need before thinking of playing it again:

    16 Major titles
    10 straight Major finals appearances
    18 of 19 Major finals appearances ('05Wimby-'10AO)
    5x finalist at all four Majors
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    ALL played OUTDOOR!

    Bookmark this post when confused and thinking of regurgitating the "indoor" thing, no?
     
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  33. nadalwon2012

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    ^ Yes, but what have you done for me lately? Federer won the last 2 World Tour Finals, and ZERO slams in between. He won Basel and Paris, also indoors... Kind of suspicious, don't you think? It reveals that Federer currently is still the best indoor player, but far from the best outdoor player.
     
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  34. Fate Archer

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    Don't mind him @Tom, and it's so ironic and hilarious to see him doing this again and again, when in this same year we had his idol Rafito going back to his very roots as a clay court specialist, winning JUST clay court titles... :lol:
    Indeed, what a great Monte Carlo player that Rafito is. :lol: :lol:
     
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    i remember seeing djokovic cry after nadal beat him at the olympics (semifinal ?). i don't think djokovic has ever cried after losing a match at a grand slam tournament before. so to these guys, winning the olympics is huge.
     
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  36. monfed

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    Federer fans need to keep some perspective here. For Federer to get back no1 , he absolutely MUST win AO and Nadal lose early preferrably. If this happens he snatches no 2 from Nadal(most probably?).

    If Nadal drops to 3, he'd be toast since he'll be in Novak's half and we know how that will pan out. :lol:


    What's important is HOW is Federer gonna win AO? From what we saw this year, AO is Fed's worst/second-worst slam.
    For him to win AO, he needs to avoid BOTH Novak and Nadal imo. How in god's name is that gonna happen?

    Not to mention, AO is an extremely sluggish court and they use heavy balls so Federer has virtually no penetration for his shots. Slow HC is Federer's worst surface imo and it's just too physical for his game.
     
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  37. merlinpinpin

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    Which he won't, so you can rest easy... ;)

    Which he definitely will. The MS record is a kind of a gift from the #1 to the #2. Just ask Sampras and Agassi. It's a tradition, or a charta, or something like that... :lol:
     
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    Well, Rafa had better recover his mental strength quickly so we don't have to see nood pics of you.

    I'm not sure which is more disagreeable, watching Rafa's boring game, or your nood pics. I guess Rafa's game edges you out by a slim margin :D
     
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  39. merlinpinpin

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    Please spare us the butt-picking, at least! :lol:
     
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  40. DRII

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    Its astounding how the classists are so far up Federer's ***...

    talk about brown nosing!
     
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  41. DRII

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    Yea right! You must be crazy...
     
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  42. nadalwon2012

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    Don't you mean YOU can rest easy....? I know your worst nightmare is Nadal winning more slams than Federer, and there is no way you would want to give that possibility any chance whatsoever. But you must admit, Djokovic is the only player in Nadal's path. Nadal figuring Djokovic out, or Djokovic continuing to struggle physically would lead to a barrage of Nadal slams, as he continues to dispose of the Del Potros and Murrays in slams....
     
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    Quoted for truth and bookmarked :)
     
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    Oh, you really know my worst nightmare? That's impressive! Do you know the name of my dog, too? ;)

    As for the rest, yeah, sure, whatever you say. Bring on the "barrage of slams", Rafa... :)

    (But still, failing short of Federer's record won't prevent him to become an all-time great (heck, he is one already) and to be mighty proud of what he's accomplished, you know (if not of the way he's accomplished it). It's his fans who might be expecting too much of him, but then, that's generally how fans are...)
     
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    Can't see Federer getting back to number 1 at this stage of his career, unless Nadal and Djokovic both miss some majors with injuries and nobody else makes a move for the top.
     
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    no one wants to see your tushy, and small package,,,sorry to disappoint tushy
     
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    Henman was one of those Federer happy losers. He used to get rides from Fed on his chartered jet and the two have a long relationship, with Fed faithfully saying that Henman was one of the favorites for Wimbledon.
     
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    Oh yeah... a happy loser that used to own Fed so much that they ended up having an almost even 7-6 H2H slightly favoring Fed... :rolleyes:
     
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  50. vive le beau jeu !

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    it's always preferable that the nadal loses early, regardless of any other consideration.
     
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