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  1. ACE of Hearts

    ACE of Hearts G.O.A.T.

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    Did anyone see the Djoker match?This is wimbledon?What a joke.The bounces where ridiculous and the way the grass looks already is ridiculous.Players where falling on this stuff!!!What the hell is underneath the grass?No wonder Nadal has won on this so called grass.
     
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  2. Blade0324

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    Grass is slippery, that's why it sucks.
     
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  3. ACE of Hearts

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    I have more respect for the U.S Open then wimbledon which is no longer the premier slam with the way they have changed everything!!
     
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  4. zagor

    zagor Talk Tennis Guru

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    I kinda agree with you,I really wish they changed grass back to the way it was pre 2002.It's ridiculous that USO(which has also been slowed down in 2003)is faster than Wimbledon these days.
     
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  5. ACE of Hearts

    ACE of Hearts G.O.A.T.

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    I think it has changed the last 3 years.The bounces werent ridiculous before that.
     
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  6. Cyan

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    Fed won all his Wimbies on this grass post 2002... :rolleyes:
     
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  7. EtePras

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    I would read your thread, but you still post like a 10 year old.
     
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  8. tudwell

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    Why are you blaming Wimbledon for people moving poorly on grass? It's their job to move their feet correctly.
     
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  9. ACE of Hearts

    ACE of Hearts G.O.A.T.

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    Plz, the bounces werent this ridiculous.Go back and look at his matches with Roddick Phillippousis.Nadal can create topspin on this retarded grass.

    If Nadal played on real grass, he wouldnt be creating heacy topspin and he would be cooked.
     
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    after he became 21--how strange! coincidence? i don't think so...
     
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  11. gj011

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    Grass has been changed between 2001 and 2002 and has been the same since.
     
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  12. Noveson

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    :rolleyes: Of course it must have because Nadal won now. Wimbledon changed five years ago and hasn't since.
     
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  13. Noveson

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    Are you stupid? I take it you have never played on a grass court. Near my house we have one with legit you don't want to let the ball bounce because it wont get above your knee bounces and it is very slippery. We usually play barefoot because in shoes you fall even more.
     
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  14. zagor

    zagor Talk Tennis Guru

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    It's possible that they were slowing grass even further every year since 2002 but the major slowdown happened in 2002.I remember how much Henman was complaining about it that year(he really got screwed over).They should have never done that IMO,Wimbledon just isn't unique anymore as it was in the 90s.It's still a great tourney and most prestigious slam obviously,but not as special as it was IMO.
     
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  15. VivalaVida

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    haha barefoot? that sounds fun but cant you get injured? especially if you are a good player with developed strokes.
     
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  16. All-rounder

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    I thought this grass discussion was done with anyways to the OP they haven't changed Wimbledon that much apparently it has been speed up but I'm not believing it Wimbledon slowed down from 2002 onwards then every year it became slower
     
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  17. The_Steak

    The_Steak Rookie

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    Where? Where?
     
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  18. gj011

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    How is it possible since the grass has been the same since 2002.
     
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  19. All-rounder

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    I agree they really screwed henman's chances of finally winning I remember he was making it to the semi's on a regular basis then from 2002 onwards he was struggling it seemed as the years went by his result got worse so it may seem that they were gradually slowing the grass down lets hope that Murray doesn't get the same treatment
     
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  20. zagor

    zagor Talk Tennis Guru

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    I personally didn't notice any change but I remember watching this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soJ_FVnijAw

    But as I said a major change was done in 2002.

    I don't care how Fed or Nadal would have done on the 90s grass,this isn't about them(as far as I'm concerned).Fed has done most of his winning from the baseline same as Nadal anyway and has won 5 Wimbledons on slower grass so it obvious that the modern slower grass suits him same as it does Nadal.

    I'm just saying that IMO they shouldn't have made the change,in my eyes Wimbledon isn't as special and unique as it was before.
     
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  21. stormholloway

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    I've played on grass and I can say that whatever type of grass I played on is nothing like what these guys are playing on. Where I played there was an extremely low bounce, making it extremely difficult to hit groundstrokes at all. I found myself slicing 90% of backhands. It was definitely a surface tailor-fit for volleyers.

    I won't say that the tennis was necessarily better before they slowed the grass--many great matches have been played--but what I can say is that Wimbledon has lost much of its uniqueness. Courts are being homogenized and each slam is losing is character. Roland Garros has been sped up over the years. Wimbledon slowed down. Apparently the AO is faster.
     
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  22. Noveson

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    Hah I'm sure we could hasn't happened yet. I play with two former D1 players and we have not gotten hurt. Mostly play dubs when were there though so it's mostly forward movement.
     
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  23. Noveson

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    Yep that is what this one is like. I'm a young guy I get down a lot and still hit many two handers but letting the ball bounce is not a normal thing for s.
     
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  24. Blade0324

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    Bottom line is grass still sucks. Put clay or HC in at Wimby and be gone with the green stuff.
     
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  25. The-Champ

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    those 2 balls didn't land on the same spot.
     
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  26. Jchurch

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    And we can't really assess from one serve alone. We don't know if one was flat or if one was loaded with some spin.
     
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  27. _maxi

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    Yes, and he also beated Sampras in the fast grass not alowing him to win five consecutive wimbledon titles.
    He proved that he can be the king in either fast or notsofast-highbouncing grass. He is not exactly the one who had so many trouble playing in fast courts.. that is the one on your avatar, so shut up.
     
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  28. Commando Tennis Shorts

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    Grass may be easy on your joints, but it is not a viable surface to play tennis on. It's slippery; it's unpredictable; it makes you prone to injuries. I know traditionalists love it, but it has become a joke
     
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  29. TheNatural

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    He proved that it was a fluke to beat a past prime Sampras. His next two Wimbledon matches were 2 losses, so much for being king on the fast grass.
     
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