Hewitt: Tougest player.

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  1. Paul Murphy

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    Tony Roche labels Hewitt the toughest player he's seen in this AAP news article.
    He'll do for my nomination.
    Any others?

    AAP:
    He's been lauded as the toughest competitor in tennis and now Lleyton Hewitt is ready to fight through the pain barrier once more at next month's Australian Open.
    Hewitt has assured his close-knit team he is ``100 per cent'' certain to line up for a 16th consecutive tilt at Melbourne Park glory despite ongoing concerns over his chronic foot injury.
    A specialist last week told Hewitt his battered left big toe was the ``worst he'd ever seen'' and expressed surprise the former world No.1 was walking around, let alone preparing for a grand slam tournament.
    Hewitt, though, considers the grim medical assessment a badge of honour and will soldier on without even using pain killers as they upset his stomach.
    The 30-year-old's show of grit is no surprise to his vastly experienced coach Tony Roche.
    ``Look, he'd be the toughest competitor that I've seen,'' Roche told AAP earlier this year.
    ``He's had a lot of setbacks the last couple of years but he keeps bouncing back.''
    Hewitt hasn't played since Australia's Davis Cup loss to Switzerland in Sydney in September.
    But he has proven time and again he can return at a high level after long breaks from the game.
    Last year, Hewitt was sidelined for almost four months following a second round of hip surgery and a knee operation before he toppled Roger Federer on grass in the Halle final.
    He reached the quarter-finals of the 2006 US Open despite carrying a knee injury that had threatened his participation and famously beat Rafael Nadal in five sets at the 2005 Australian Open while battling a hip injury.
    Despite languishing at 186th in the rankings, father-of-three Hewitt insists retirement is not in his plans.
    ``This year's been frustrating with the foot injury,'' Hewitt said this month.
    ``The rest of my body feels great, so that's probably even more frustrating. If I was breaking down in a lot of different areas, then you can sort of put up with it.
    ``So if I can get over this foot injury, I feel great at the moment in terms of my ball striking. It's as good as it's been in a long time.
    ``As long as my foot holds up, I'll keep going.''
     
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    Yea yea Rochy (an Australian) thinks Hewitt (another Australian) is the toughest player he's ever seen.

    Michael Stich (a German) once said Schumacher (another German) is the best sportsman ever.

    Pat Cash thinks Laver is the greatest ever. It's not like both are Australian or something.
     
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    I don't think it's going to be easy to dispute whether Hewitt has had more drive than any other player of his or this current era. When the likes of Agassi state that he's the one person you never want to have to serve to, that sort of speaks for itself.
     
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    Can I have the definition of tough, please? This notion is very wide and blurry. To a certain extent, every professional player is tough in his own sense, and I don't see why Hewitt is tougher than Laver, Wilander, Federer, Nadal, Ferrer, etc.
     
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  5. Lsmkenpo

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    I agree with Roche, Hewitt may be the toughest player physically and mentally to ever play the game.
     
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    thats got nothing to do with one another

    the only reason why cash picks laver is because laver isnt federer -.-
     
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    Borg, Muster and Chang say hi!
     
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    Jimmy Connors.
     
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    Hewitt was definitely tough for me to watch.

    You know, being such a huge ***** and all.
     
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    Hewitt is one of my favorite players of all time. I agree with Roche. Lleyton is extremely tough, both mentally and physically. He played through a lot of injuries that would have caused other players to retire from matches. Hell, in 2005, he was dealing with a bad hip, spent 20 or so hours on court to make the Australian Open final, and only under the pressure of god-mode Safin did he fold.

    As much as I love Roger, I hope Lleyton wins the Oz Open...
     
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    What's his problem with Federer?
     
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    I think Cash said that Federer would never win Wimbledon after he lost in the 1st round in 2002. Now that this has become the biggest failprediction possible Cash is bitter

    + he's Australian:)
     
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    in addition to saying federer will never win anything big if he stays with mirka..
    that hes not good enough to be the next big act in tennis..
    that he would never be able to beat delpo again after losing the USO final to him..
    that djokovic now is far better than federer ever was in his prime..

    kinda makes you think hed gladly pick anyone as long as it isnt federer +g+
     
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    Hewitt is easily one of the toughest mofos to step on a tennis court. Even after countless injuries he kept coming back and giving it his best.

    Regardless of some may think of him, no one can question his fight.
     
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    I don't know if he's the toughest, but he did earn alot from not as much...

    But, once he lost some of his foot speed it was all over.
     
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    It's sad...he was in his prime probably the mentally toughest player ever- but he's become a choker in old age
     
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    This. Hewitt doesn't retire much less give up. He has this intrinsic fight that you can just see in his eyes. Unfortunately, he and Safin and Rafter got only a few years to be excellent before Federer came into power. People tend to forget what 2002 or so Hewitt looked like.
     
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    Absolutely! Jimmy would have came across the net, slapped Hewitt around, intimidated him, made him cry, out played him. He was a tougher breed of personality than this generation has seen (save a few of the Russion player and Roddick :) )
     
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    Hewitt is an arrogant d.*&@#.g. Tough ? Probably. Toughest........no.
     
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    Sometimes being tough means making stupid decisions just like Hewitt is doing now!
     
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    Who the heck are these delusional people? Tony can't really believe that?
     
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    Being tough. Does that mean you win more matches? Every new season or slam comes around , and we hear it's gonna be Hewitt's "comeback". It never happened, and it will not happen. Now , I'm Australian, and I'd love to see him do well, but 1) he isn't physically up to it, and 2) he hasn't got the game. Being "tough" is one thing , but the pace of the game has moved on from his level. Even at his peak form and physical condition, he still wouldn't be able to compete with the top 20 guys.
     
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    He's tough alright, but Rafa is tougher.

    And maybe more people.
     
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    Peak Hewitt is top 5 for certain in this era.
     
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    What a surprise....

    And, he's tough because while he constantly gets injured, he comes back and tries to play. he doesn't make excuses, doesn't quit unless he's broken a hip... he soldiers on, refusing to 'go quietly into the night'
     
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    Agreed. People here trash on him so much.. but he did finish number 1 two years in a row.
     
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    Please give up on analysing tennis.
     
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    Hewitt's 2000-2005 style would be perfect for today's conditions.
     
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    And what about Nadal? he is tough. The guy won't let you win easily.
     
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    agreed. the only people in the top 20 i can see having a good head to head against peak hewitt are the top 3.

    albeit the game has transcended past hewitt in terms of power.
     
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    Past prime Hewitt almost beat Soderling at Wimbledon this year, Soderling had to play some pretty good tennis to comeback and win that, shame he didn't win it, was looking forward to a Hewitt vs Tomic match :(
     
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    I'm still very annoyed by Hewitt's loss to Roddick in the quarter finals of 2009 Wimbledon. Those flippin' injuries of his ruined it. I was gutted, because he hadn't played as well in a major since 2005.
     
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    Hewitt: biggest dooshbag. He was always screaming come on right in his opponents face. I wish someone would punch him right in the face, his wife to.
     
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    C'MON!!!!!!! :twisted:

    *Does lawnmower*
     
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    We all know why you like him.

    Fruitcake.
     
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    If you don't like Bec Hewitt, then you've got serious gay problems dude :twisted:
     
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    An example of his toughness and superior mental strength Hewitt playing with a broken hip beats Nadal. http://bit.ly/vOHDCp
     
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    Who hadn't even seen the 4R of any GS up until that point.

    Lleyton with his broken hip also beat Clement,Chela,Blake,Nalbandian,Roddick and took a set off Safin in that year's AO.

    That's some hip.
     
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    Relax folks, ...
    I don't think that peak Hewitt playing the brand of tennis he was playing during his peak days would stand up so well right now, top 10 but not top 5 for long periods of time. The surfaces need to help the pace of his shots and they simply don't, plus he likes a target at the net and to display his outstanding passing capability but wouldn't be given it much in this era. He'd be outgrinded and overpowered often enough and wouldn't really be in any serious contention to win a Slam in my opinion, though he might have found one opportunity.
     
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    So you think Hewitt was faking a hip injury that has required 2 surgeries during his career.
     
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    I agree with this analysis, and I'm a huge admirer of Hewitt and his fighting qualities. Counterpunching isn't enough in the modern game.
     
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    Hewitt didn't have "broken hip" in early 2005, but a hip injury :-?
     
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    If anyone watched this years Australia-Swiss Davis cup match played on
    a legitimate grass court, they would know how much the slowing of all surfaces has hurt Hewitt's game.

    I like Hewitt's chances on a fast grass court versus anyone not named Federer right now.
     
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    Slowing of all surfaces? That's fantasy. It's a small narrowing of the gap between the surfaces, making them slightly more homogeneous but there are still clear differences, otherwise Nadal would be dominating on hardcourt as much as he does on clay.

    What's hurt Hewitt is injuries, virtually one after another since 2005. His late 2005 lay off was the most damaging, as he had clearly lost pace when he returned in 2006.
     
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    Cash picks Laver because it annoys Chopin. :)
     
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    Id hit that no doubt, but she always has that b1tchy look on her face. Doesn't seem like much fun. A trophy wife Id call her.
     
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    BS, you don't know what your talking about and have zero evidence to support your assertion, while the Court Pace Ratings of the AO, Wimbledon and the US Open revealed by the tournament directors proves otherwise.

    There are no fast courts left on tour according to the ITF court pace ratings, the only tournament played over the past 2 years classified as a fast court was Bercy last year.

    You can not name one tournament that has a fast court pace rating. Pretty much every tournament played is now medium or slow court pacing.

    The difference on clay isn't just speed it is player movement, it requires completely different footwork to move on clay than hard court regardless of the pace. If you played tennis you would know that. Other players don't have the footwork to move on clay like Nadal does, on hard court that is a different story.
     
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    And the French Open is faster, therefore there's not been a "slowing of all surfaces" as you claimed.

    Because there are no carpet tournaments on the tour anymore and the Wimbledon grass-courts are 100% Rye now. Do you even care about the role of technology in slowing down conditions, with the racquets, strings, slower balls etc. At the French Open in 2011, they used faster balls. The weather is also a factor.

    Yes, I am aware of the different movements required on different surfaces. Therefore, there are clear differences between the surfaces.
     
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    Yeah. Cos' he heard that famous hot TV star wives really dig scars.
     
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    WTF? Are you truly this ignorant? Gee, I wonder what has more effect on the tour the slowing of the majority of tournaments played or the speeding up of one tournament that still did not change its court pace classification.




    It doesn't require carpet to be a fast court, the US Open and Wimbledon used to both be classified as fast court pace rated tournaments but both are now medium paced within a few points of what used to be the only medium paced major the AO. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7178646.stm


    Than why did you claim that Nadal would dominate on HC as much as he does on clay, if HC were really playing slower? Please, enlighten us to your rationale.
     
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