Hewitt's Remark Prompts Reaction From *** Rights Group

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  1. Kevin Patrick

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    Lleyton Hewitt's remark apparently directed at the chair umpire during last weekend's Davis Cup defeat to Argentina has offended an Australian *** rights group that has called on Hewitt to apologize. The offensive remark was made after Portuguese chair umpire Carlos Ramos ruled a Hewitt shot was out during Australia's loss to Argentina in the Davis Cup quarterfinals at the Sydney Tennis Centre.

    An angry Hewitt allegedly pointed at Ramos and yelled "Who is this poof?" to referee Norbert Peick. A "poof" is a slang slur in Australia used to demean ****sexuals. Hewitt denied saying the the word, but video replays confirmed he did yell "Who is this poof?" according to a published report in The Herald Sun written by Jacqueline Freegard.

    The Victorian *** and Lesbian Rights Lobby criticized Hewitt for using the word and called for an apology.

    "Whilst we understand the tension in this match and in other sporting events, reverting to this sort of unnecessary and vile name calling is entirely inappropriate," Victorian *** and Lesbian Rights spokesman Pete Dillon told The Herald Sun.

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  2. Tchocky

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    What's with the asterisks?
     
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  3. FedererUberAlles

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    g-a-y..........
     
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    I didn't put the asterisks in, apparently Tennis Warehouse considers g-a-y & h-o-mo-sexual to be offensive language.

    I've learned a lot of international slurs I've never heard of by watching pro tennis(poof, wa----, etc.)
     
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    What would you expect from a big mouth @$$hole like Hewitt? He's already proved himself to be racist, so I'm not surprised he's a ****phobic as well. One of these days somebody is going to kick that punks ugly Klingon face in.
     
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    Bah, people take themselves too seriously sometimes, christ...
     
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    Who cares if he was making fun of *** people
     
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    i agree tennisd
     
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    It's just like certain minority groups. I'm no rascist, but as soon as someone opens their mouth, certain people just call "RASCISM!" on any little thing...
     
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    Hewitt and Coria were in rare form during that 1st Davis Cup singles match. Vish this
     
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    The word is RACISM not rascism. I don't thing Hewitt is a racist because he alleged that a black linesman was giving Blake favorable calls. He didn't use a racist slur and it appeared to me that the linesman was giving Blake "freebies" too. However, using the word poof is crossing the line. He is now an official h o mo phobe like Ivanisevic.
     
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    Yes, I can't spell. I'm too tired to care though...

    You think the word "poof" denotes him as a ****phobe? I'm sorry, but no...
     
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    *** people do, it would seem.
     
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    Yes, one would think that would be evident...
     
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    actually poof in the dictionary is "Used as a disparaging term for an effeminate or ****sexual male." so yea saying it does denote him a s a ****phobe

    its like calling a black person the n word
     
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    Uh huh, but then again, who's to say what context it was used in? Also, if someone utters a word, it doesn't necessarily mean that he or she meant it, or hates a certain group of people...christ...
     
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    But you have to admit how "humble" Hewitt becomes when Fed beats the crap out of him every match they play on court.
     
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  18. Chadwixx

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    agassi called the unpire a F***ing F*g (much worse than poof) in davis cup, i guess ppl are selective when topics like these come up.
     
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    Ohh that's right. THAT's why I didn't like Hewitt. I had forgotten. Ever since the Blake incident, I never liked Hewitt. That's right.
     
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    When did that happen?
     
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  21. Chadwixx

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    last year vs spain

    every player has their methods to disrupt the opponent, hewitt just chooses an in ur face style. u think connors really wanted to talk to the fans? or was he just catching his breath.
     
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    F** was indeed one of Agassi's favorite words in the early to mid 90s. But he didn't play in the Davis Cup Final vs. Spain last year.
     
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    when did he say it then? the ljubicic match this year?
     
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    look pofs not too bad.....is it?

    he could have called him.....a sausage jockey.....a shirt lifter.......a fudge packer.a dirt burglar. a batty rider.***lord...queer.......***...... etc

    look at the abuse hewitt gets on these boards over no prize money.I think he should be forgiven a slicght slip of the tongue
     
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    I can't remember when he said that(I'm sure it was many times, though earlier in his career)

    Vs Ljubcic he said "So now you're a f------ tennis expert" when the umpire ruled he didn't have a play on a ball that he overruled in Ljubcic's favor.
     
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    nono this was within the last year, i remember posting here about it when it happend. it was even broadcasted on espn without the censor. he said it directly to the umpire.
     
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    Well, I don't know what match you're referring to, but it wasn't the Ljubcic Davis Cup match. Do a message board search if you don't believe me. I described exactly what Agassi said in that match.
     
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    Yeah, Agassi came back from a five year absence from the Davis Cup this year. So it couldn't have been a Davis Cup.
     
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    People cry too much over nothing. It's a word, if you can't handle someone saying a word you shouldn't exist. People have the choice when to be offended so choose not to, it is simple.
     
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    Hewitt is a Punk with a big mouth. This won't be the last of him making an arse of himself. Remeber the Blake incident?
     
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    People also use incidents like these to show others how "sensitive and progressive" they are by being offended by little things. Go out and boo Hewitt if you like, but quit whining to everyone else.
     
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    I think you are clearly wrong as Hewitts comments during the Blake match were clearly politically incorrect.

    "Look at him," Hewitt said, gesturing at the linesman. "And look at him," pointing at Blake. "You tell me what the similarity is.

    "You put him off the court, get him off the court."

    These comments are clearly racially motivated. However perhaps due to heat of the moment, Blake give him the benefit of the doubt. Lleyton has always been a tough competitor with a big mouth, he needs to stop ******* his opponents off.
     
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    It's only one of our unusual and colourful terms of endearment. Said to a mate in a pub when a drink without hops in it appears: Whatareya? A bloody poofta?

    (just to add nothing to the debate;))
     
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    I agree with you that it can be a term of endearment in australian slang terms BUT when its said in the heat of an argument its not.
     
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    If he did say it then the possible freudian slip is not much different to the guys around here who won't wear short shorts because they write it's 'kinda gai' or those who express negative comments about pedal-pusher capri-pants.
     
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    who cares? they are g-a-y. Go Hewitt! I personally don't care what g.a.y.s or lesbians do. I have a problem when they try to change our definition of marriage. As long as the twisted ppl don't mess with the sanctity of marriage and family, Im cool.
     
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    I'm not ***, but since when is *** or lesbian a race.

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    And since when is g-a-y not allowed to be written.
     
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    Although I dislike Hewitt and the way he carries on during a match I agree completely. I've read far more racist, h-om-ophobic and s-exist statements on this message board than I've ever heard during a Hewitt match. If we've never said anything remotely similar then we should feel free to give him a hard time. If we have then, remember what they say about people in glass houses?

    I'm definately not looking to defend Hewitt because, as I said, I don't like the bloke's style. However, I do think he has very little concept, when he uses certain words, of what they mean to a wider audience. Have a good look at his coach, Roger Rasheed or his best friend and sporting idol Andrew McLeod and you'll see that neither one of them is caucasian. So, when he makes a remark that is considered racist do we really think, given his associations, that he is genuinely racist? Lleyton, when he gets wound up, just doesn't connect the dots regarding the things he says. He's definately not alone there and, having been a linesman for a dozen years, I can state categorically, that he is nowhere near the worst. Jim Courier, for all his good points, is still prone to doing the same thing as could be seen at this year's Australian Open when he called one of the female broadcasters 'eye candy'. That is unbelievably dumb, especially given that it's a comment made not in the heat of battle but when he had all the time in the world to say nothing at all. Still, I wouldn't necessarily say he's s-ex-ist, just that he's as prone as many to making comments when he hasn't allowed his brain to engage with his mouth a' la' Hewitt.
     
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    Thanks for lowering my IQ, d-bag.
     
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    So, Andrew, you would argue that it's okay to say pretty much anything, as long as it's in "the heat of battle". Boys will be boys and all that...

    I guess the same would apply to his remarks during the match with Blake a few years back. How many passes does Hewitt get from you and his fans until he's finally called on it? A lot of players get stressed out and lose their cool during the "heat of battle" and tend to let the mouth run without thinking much about it, but very few, if any, to my knowledge, make h-om-ophobic and racist remarks. Why is that?
     
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    maybe the guy is a poof.
     
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    It's quite interesting that certain people view Hewitt's comment in the Blake match as being "racially motivated", and claim that, by virtue of that comment, Hewitt is a racist against blacks.

    I don't see it that way myself...

    What if Hewitt (or any other player) were playing a caucasian British player, and complaining that the Brit was getting favorable calls from the caucasian British linesperson? Would this, too, be called racism? Highly unlikely. Or if a man were playing a woman and complaining of favorable calls from a female linesperson?

    Hewitt was questioning the integrity and honesty of the linesman - simple as that. Does he have the right to do this? The answer to this question depends on who is asked. Personally, I find anyone who assumes that the linesperson(s) and/or umpire is deliberately screwing only them to be a whining paranoid imbecile. I don't claim to know what Hewitt's opinion of black people is - but I do know that his comment in the infamous Blake match did nothing to establish his view of blacks one way or another.
     
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    I think Deuce has a point. From the above quote, he does seem to sound aggressive and angry. But he might not necessarily be racist. Like Deuce said, he could be serious that the linesman was making biased line call and just blurted out a racist comment in his accusation of the linesman.
     
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    But how is the comment racist?

    As I pointed out, the very same situation and comment could occur if the linesman and opposing player were British... or French... or German... or...

    Hewitt was questioning the linesman's honesty and integrity - that is all - in implying that, as a black man, he is giving Blake favorable calls. While some may claim that Hewitt's comment implies that he thinks that black persons are inherently dishonest and lack integrity, I see no evidence of this. It may well be that Hewitt thinks this way of black people. But it may not be, as well. Bottom line is that his comment in the Blake match does not in any way reveal how he views black people - it reveals only that he felt that this particular linesman was dishonest.
     
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    If there is nothing wrong with being a P**f why are these people offended? Sounds like somebody is just looking for an excuse to be offended. There are professional victims out there.
     
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    yes they were they were motivated as the line ump was clearly giving blake some help with the calls. hewitt suggest that the ump is being biased and he gets called a racist. no one mentions the fact the the ump was taking a racist stand by helping blake?????? narrow minded commments from hewitt hater fans who will use everything and anything to get on his back. everyone loves andre but hey he only calls people f#gs that must be ok.....
     
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    yeah what's with this board being so highly filtered, i mean some of my threads have been deleted for no apparent reason
     
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    Andrew i agree and accept your point of view. i think that the connection of something being said in the heat of the moment is not something that would be said in general day to day talk.
    this is just another excuse for people that dont like hewitt to come on a bad mouth him somemore.
     
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    i'm surprised that wasn't blocked out
     
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    How can you be so sure that Hewitt is NOT a racist. You SEEM awfully sure for not knowing the man. I suppose you can READ him, right?

    Why would he even feel the NEED to bring up race in a match? Doesn't that tell you SOMETHING? You say he was merely "questioning the linesman's honesty and integrity" but you don't know that anymore than someone else KNOWS that he's a dyed-in-the-wool racist. He questioned the linesman's integrity AND he brought race into the mix. Why the need to do that? You ask if the same comments would be written if a non-Englishman questioned the calls of an English linesman in favor of his English opponent. Well, I got news for you-it hasn't HAPPENED, so the comparison is LAME and you KNOW, if you have half a brain, that when it comes to RACE it's a whole different story.

    None of this automatically makes Hewitt a racist, but it sure raises some questions...you don't think people should ask the question? You're so QUICK to totally dismiss ANY racial issues that I'm starting to believe that you're one of those passive/aggressive type of racist. You always point out that most of the comments on this board by others directed towards the Williams sisters are not, cannot be, can never be RACIALLY motivated, and those who claim that they are, are paranoid, overly politically correct, etc. Grow up and face the 21st century, spanky. This stuff exists-and it exists in places where you wouldn't "expect" it to. You're either incredibly naive and have a "tin ear" for these kind of things-AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, in OTHER POSTS-or you're just a stinkin' racist like some of the others, but you're too gutless to "come out" preferring instead, to protect others who spew this garbage. I think you may just have a tin ear regarding the issue, as you have for many other issues, and I hope I'm right. Only you know that for sure.
     
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