High arch + wide feet

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  1. T.P3D0R

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    My feet have been cursed by being wide with high arches... Leaving my feet achey after matches. I've been trying a variety of shoes, and when I find something that seems comfortable on my feet, I find that they generally lack stability. Loved the Asics GR4s comfort-wise, but they didn't offer a lot of support. While they weren't terrible, I've tried the Nike Air Max Cages which don't fit as nicely, and also seem to have less support, actually amplifying some of my foot pains...

    If Adidas produced a wide-version of their barricades, I'd be set... But that doesn't appear to be happening. Does anybody else have similar experiences/foot issues that could offer advice on shoe selection?

    After speaking with a podiatrist, I've been informed that its good to have a few pairs of the same shoe and not to use the same pair two days in a row in order to allow th cushion to reset and perspiration to evaporate - never heard this before but who knows....
     
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  2. JGads

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    I have your exact foot type (and problem). Best I've found so far is the Vapor 9 with Superfeet insoles, either Orange for more cushion or Blue for better arch support. Recently even out the stock insole over the top of the SF for added cushioning and it isnt too bad..

    Curious about the Vapor Advantage due to the even wider fit but the support might be less. ..

    I'm always on the hunt for the perfect shoe for my awful feet and also sensitive knees. Keep posting, would be curious to know what you ultimately settle with.
     
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  3. T.P3D0R

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    I'm going to stop at a local Fleet Feet and what they have to offer. I'd heard about Vapors being a good choice, but always shied away from them due to the lack of 6-mo warranty. However, I figure a custom-fitted cross-trainer shoe from Fleet Feet might be what I'm looking for, granted it won't have a 6-mo. warranty.
     
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  4. SmilinBob

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    Add another to the list with the same issue...High arches and I need a shoe that's wide in the toe box.

    Shoe-wise, I've been very happy with the fit and comfort of the Prince T-22s. My only issue is they feel heavy and clunky. I'm tempted to give the Vapor 9s a try. I tried them on when I bought the T-22s and they felt divine, but I was a little unsure of the stability and cushioning. They seem to get pretty good reviews though so I'm thinking they might deserve a second look. If the weight doesn't bother you, the T-22s or the update to them, the T-24s, might be worth a try.

    As for inserts, I have some solid and varied experience with just about anything you can jam into a shoe. Since I was 10 or 11 years old I've had custom orthodics, however recently I've been trying other things. The custom ones I have only go to the mid-foot and are the rock-hard plastic kind. Despite slipping them under the insole, they still aren't that cushioned.

    I've tried Superfeet but once you've had something fitted to your foot everything else doesn't feel as good. I ended up finding a running store in town and they had a ton of different insoles, two of which were heat moldable. The SOLE brand...Butter. The cushioning is very thick and it only takes about 2-3 minutes in an oven to heat them up. After that, you stand still with them in your shoes and they start to settle in. I've had mine in for about 2-3 weeks now and I'm a full-fledged convert.

    These are the brands I've tried:

    A variety of cheap inserts like Dr. Scholls (garbage)
    Custom-fit orthodics (Great for everything but high-impact and sports, expensive)
    Superfeet (Both Green and Orange, not custom-fit)
    Archmolds (Maximum, pretty good, probably my second choice)
    SOLE (Ultra, fantastic support and cushion and I'm going to get a pair of Response, their thinner offering, for my work dress shoes)

    I've been through so many shoes, inserts, knee braces, compression gear, etc. I'm half tempted to start a "SmilinBob's Equipment Reviews" thread much like my racquet one.
     
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    Coincidentally, I bought a pair of Green Superfeet insoles yesterday, along with one pair of Prince T22s and one pair of Adidas Response Essence.

    I'll wear them each for a few hours then return one pair. So far it seems like both will be improvements over the Cages. T22s seem to be very supportive, but with less cushion. The Response Essence seems to have a little less support, but more cushion.

    Seems like a toss up to me.
     
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    I have the same foot type. The Prince's are good, but I found the Asics 4's and 5's to be better for me.
     
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    How does the Resolution 5 compare to the 4?
     
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    The sole footbed is the bomb. Sole plus GR4 is luxury riding

    Gads have you tried the yonex shoes?
     
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  9. JGads

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    I tried on a Yonex shoe awhile back in a shop and the fit was awkward for my foot. Can't recall why, just didnt seem natural.

    Ideally I'd love a direct in-between of a Vapor 9 (lightness, breathability, healthy width) and Gel Res 4 (almost TOO squishy plush for me sometimes, like a little more court feel, but still a splendid shoe).
     
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    I found the Gel Res 4s ran narrow in the toe box for me. I ended up returning them and as such, hardly wore them. The cushioning and stability felt good though.

    Are the 5s any wider up front?
     
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    When I used GR4s in the past, I did notice a narrow toe-box. However, I got away with using them by going a half size up and using thicker socks. That worked for a while since they were so comfortable. I stopped using them after my second pair though - I had a lot more slips on the second pair - the traction didn't seem to hold up as well.

    Anyway, I returned the Adidas' in favor of the T22s + Green Superfeet for now. We'll see if that works out.
     
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  12. vegasgt3

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    For me, the 5's are more comfortable and stable, but not a ton of difference in size.
     
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  13. Chotobaka

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    T22's plus Superfeet Green has been my combination for the last 2-3 years. The only issue I have is the lack of cushioning. Will be trying Babolat SFX on hard courts tomorrow. The fit on these is more generous in every direction and reports are the SFX have better cushioning. From just trying them on, they are noticeably more plush feeling.
     
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    Post back your results after you've had a chance to give them a try. I'm curious what you think as I'm contemplating a shoe switch from the T-22s, despite a decent fit. Looks like the SFX only weighs in an ounce lighter though. Would still be interested what others think of the cushioning.
     
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    The SFXs felt like I was running in wet shoes, the cushioning was so squishy plush. Couldn't handle such little court feel and took them off after a handful of games. Definitely wide, though.
     
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    Yes, the 5s are a little wider and fit true to length. The 4s were long and pointy.

    I prefer the 5, but cannot really wear either on HC as I'm too tough on the uppers of shoes and tear the drag guards on Asics within a few hours. Shame as they are so comfy yet offer great stability.
     
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    Took me a long while to realize that high arches lead to problems (I have wide feet (EE) too).

    I've settled on Asics and Yonex for both shoe width AND lateral stability. However I developed some heel pain due to training and other activities.

    As was posted above I now swear by the Sole Response orthotic inserts. They are a very effective and very high quality product despite their relative low cost (about $45).

    My stability and foot comfort is now improved and "from the ground up" I feel like I have a solid basis for better performance.
     
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  18. JGads

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    Ok I really need to check out these sole footbeds.

    I think I might be headed back to Asics. I've been a Vapor guy but knee tendonitis has crept in on my right knee and I think I need a tad more padding for the hard courts. Just don't like it to be TOO much and to feel too high/disconnected from the court. Read somewhere than the cushioning on the 5s are a bit less than the 4s, which for me might be a perfect in-between. We'll see.
     
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    After playing today in my SFX's I am pretty happy with them. I wore one pair of socks to get a true sense of the fit, and they are more generous in every direction than the T22's. My usual thin pair under a regular pair will give me a closer fit.

    Cushioning is very, very good. They did not strike me as having the beefiest lateral support, but didn't present any problems. Good traction. If I had gone a half size smaller I am sure they would have been too small. These are just not a perfect fit for me, especially in the heel. I have a narrow heel and they are pretty roomy back there. These will be fine as a doubles shoe for me. BTW, loads of compliments as the blue SFX aren't exactly subtle.

    I will be ordering a replacement pair of the T22's as my regular singles shoe, as these have a perfect fit for my feet (fit like a glove, really) albeit with less cushioning than the SFX's. I did not find the SFX to have too much cushioning, as had been commented on -- not mushy feeling at all. I am 2 bucks on a good day, so the plush feel was much appreciated.
     
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  20. T.P3D0R

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    T22s + Green Superfeet have not solved my problems. I like toebox on the T22s, and can deal with the comfort (or lack thereof)... but the green superfeet have not really provided me with a great deal of arch support. I might give the SOLEs a try...

    The Ultras offer more cushioning, but their website claims Response is for tennis. Thoughts?
     
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